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Anonymous wrote:The previous 2 PP don’t understand systematic racism.

You can put systems in place that discriminate even if it makes you more money.

Yes, most housing policies are racist. It’s one of the many things that need to be fixed.

They understand, they don't care.

Affluent white, black, and brown people pay a lot of money so that they do not have to live with poor black, brown, and white people. It’s not the race, it’s the social class.

I wonder what drives comments like this, ignorance or denial? It's about race, not class.

Do you think UMC white people would rather live next to a trailer park filled with white people or next to new construction with UMC black or Hispanic families? You want to make it about race because it’s more effective to say someone who disagrees is racist than classist

I'm sorry but UMC white people do not want to live with or go to school with a lot of Black people period, UMC or otherwise. It's not about saying something effective - race alone can be viewed as a factor that determines outcomes for Black people. This has been studied endlessly in housing, health, jobs and education. I don't understand why people don't get that there are shitty things that happen to Black people because they are Black, no other factor is required.

Does anyone?

Anonymous wrote:It is an utterly ridiculous argument. They don't want to sell houses under a certain price because the return on their lower fees does not make it financially worthwhile.

If that is racist, all stores are racist because they charge fixed prices for their goods, and people of color have less money so are thereby excluded from access to certain goods.

Racism is a deliberate policy aimed to advantage certain groups at the expense of others. It is not any policy that might inadvertently have a differential impact on different groups due to their differing patterns of income and/or wealth.

Wrong. Agree or disagree, adverse impact is a thing. https://www.hirevue.com/blog/hiring/what-is-adverse-impact-and-why-measuring-it-matters

It is an utterly ridiculous argument. They don't want to sell houses under a certain price because the return on their lower fees does not make it financially worthwhile.

If that is racist, all stores are racist because they charge fixed prices for their goods, and people of color have less money so are thereby excluded from access to certain goods.

Racism is a deliberate policy aimed to advantage certain groups at the expense of others. It is not any policy that might inadvertently have a differential impact on different groups due to their differing patterns of income and/or wealth.

Selling a house is hard. Selling a crappy house in a horrible neighborhood is even worse. Redfin is doing this for the safety of its workers so they do not need to go into these dangerous neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:The previous 2 PP don’t understand systematic racism.

You can put systems in place that discriminate even if it makes you more money.

Yes, most housing policies are racist. It’s one of the many things that need to be fixed.

Yeah. I wanted to flag those both as "systemic racism" examples. And I am NOT being sarcastic. I mean, how hard is it to figure that out? Just like higher interest rates on mortgages, higher insurance premiums, and all the other things that have been barriers to housing even when technically discrimination was made illegal.

The rates are higher because the risk to the lender is greater. End. Of.

You must work at Wells Fargo.

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Anonymous wrote:The previous 2 PP don’t understand systematic racism.

You can put systems in place that discriminate even if it makes you more money.

Yes, most housing policies are racist. It’s one of the many things that need to be fixed.

They understand, they don't care.

Affluent white, black, and brown people pay a lot of money so that they do not have to live with poor black, brown, and white people. It’s not the race, it’s the social class.

I wonder what drives comments like this, ignorance or denial? It's about race, not class.

Market research ny Zillow.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The previous 2 PP don’t understand systematic racism.

You can put systems in place that discriminate even if it makes you more money.

Yes, most housing policies are racist. It’s one of the many things that need to be fixed.

They understand, they don't care.

Affluent white, black, and brown people pay a lot of money so that they do not have to live with poor black, brown, and white people. It’s not the race, it’s the social class.

I wonder what drives comments like this, ignorance or denial? It's about race, not class.

Do you think UMC white people would rather live next to a trailer park filled with white people or next to new construction with UMC black or Hispanic families? You want to make it about race because it’s more effective to say someone who disagrees is racist than classist

Strawman argumebts are stupid. Let's look at actual facts: white UMC families didn't pack up and move when a middle class white family moved in next door. When a black family moved in, every white neighbor fire saled their house. No one had a restrictive covenant for income.

If you're too ignorant or obtuse to understand the effects of decades of racist housing policies and practices that's in you, Bro.

Are you talking 1967 or 2017? Please give one example this is still happening in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:The previous 2 PP don’t understand systematic racism.

You can put systems in place that discriminate even if it makes you more money.

Yes, most housing policies are racist. It’s one of the many things that need to be fixed.

They understand, they don't care.

Affluent white, black, and brown people pay a lot of money so that they do not have to live with poor black, brown, and white people. It’s not the race, it’s the social class.

I wonder what drives comments like this, ignorance or denial? It's about race, not class.

It is shared values. I don't care the race of my neighbors in the least.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean, “take homes”? Their listing agents won’t list them?

Is that an issue with other realtors, too?

Wondering this too.

I’m glad it’s not just me. I mean, redlining waaaay predates Redfin, so it doesn’t make sense to single them out. It’s not like traditional realtors haven’t been discriminating against minorities for decades or anything.

Do you think the realtor who specializes in Chevy chase village is going to take on an 80k condo sale?

Agent here. My lowest sales price so far this year was $183,000 for a studio condo and the highest price was $3,747,000. At the end of the year I make a lot of money. You do the business and it all works out.

This. Most agents are like this. And if they aren’t, they’re going to refer the $80K condo sale to another agent on their team, in their office, or with their brokerage. So if Redfin is saying as a company, we will not list an $80K condo, that’s not comparable to the hypothetical Chevy Chase Village realtor.
- agent who did a lot of business before the pandemic trapped me in my house with my special needs kids and now refers everything out

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The previous 2 PP don’t understand systematic racism.

You can put systems in place that discriminate even if it makes you more money.

Yes, most housing policies are racist. It’s one of the many things that need to be fixed.

They understand, they don't care.

Affluent white, black, and brown people pay a lot of money so that they do not have to live with poor black, brown, and white people. It’s not the race, it’s the social class.

I wonder what drives comments like this, ignorance or denial? It's about race, not class.

Do you think UMC white people would rather live next to a trailer park filled with white people or next to new construction with UMC black or Hispanic families? You want to make it about race because it’s more effective to say someone who disagrees is racist than classist

Strawman argumebts are stupid. Let's look at actual facts: white UMC families didn't pack up and move when a middle class white family moved in next door. When a black family moved in, every white neighbor fire saled their house. No one had a restrictive covenant for income.

If you're too ignorant or obtuse to understand the effects of decades of racist housing policies and practices that's in you, Bro.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The previous 2 PP don’t understand systematic racism.

You can put systems in place that discriminate even if it makes you more money.

Yes, most housing policies are racist. It’s one of the many things that need to be fixed.

They understand, they don't care.

Affluent white, black, and brown people pay a lot of money so that they do not have to live with poor black, brown, and white people. It’s not the race, it’s the social class.

I wonder what drives comments like this, ignorance or denial? It's about race, not class.

Do you think UMC white people would rather live next to a trailer park filled with white people or next to new construction with UMC black or Hispanic families? You want to make it about race because it’s more effective to say someone who disagrees is racist than classist

I'm sorry but UMC white people do not want to live with or go to school with a lot of Black people period, UMC or otherwise. It's not about saying something effective - race alone can be viewed as a factor that determines outcomes for Black people. This has been studied endlessly in housing, health, jobs and education. I don't understand why people don't get that there are shitty things that happen to Black people because they are Black, no other factor is required.

Does redfin list trailers? I hate the assumption that only Hispanic and black people are poor. I hate when people assume a person is poor because they are black or Hispanic. Systemic racism is a thing but choosing not to list a house at a certain price point isnt necessarily systemic racism.

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Anonymous wrote:The previous 2 PP don’t understand systematic racism.

You can put systems in place that discriminate even if it makes you more money.

Yes, most housing policies are racist. It’s one of the many things that need to be fixed.

Yeah. I wanted to flag those both as "systemic racism" examples. And I am NOT being sarcastic. I mean, how hard is it to figure that out? Just like higher interest rates on mortgages, higher insurance premiums, and all the other things that have been barriers to housing even when technically discrimination was made illegal.

The rates are higher because the risk to the lender is greater. End. Of.

^^^ they bring slave OWNERS ... slave owners were paid reparations!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s about money, not about race.

This

So was slavery

Wasn’t slavery based on race? Stop being obtuse.

Slave owners said they could not afford to pay workers.

They also were paid reparations.

Educate yourself.