why no one has mentioned her recent music is beyond me, her song Back To Me is pretty good!

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect that she can't keep her sobriety in check unless she lives in a place where socializing doesn't routinely include alcohol. You can't even go out for dinner in the US, UK, or France (her previous haunts) without being around alcohol. In the Middle East, alcohol is much less visible so it's easier for an alcoholic to avoid because there are fewer triggers. I think she moved there, got bankrolled by royalty and rich sheikhs, and established a life there. I think she still drinks but I suspect her movement throughout the ME is directly linked to her sobriety status (Dubai etc when she's drinking, more conservative places when she's trying to recover).

She’s not being bankrolled by them for nothing. She is a working as an escort.

+1 and have you socialized in the ME? No lack of alcohol

Yes, I've been drunk in at least 5 ME countries including on the peninsula. But while it's everywhere in Dubai, you're wrong that it is as prevalent in the ME as in the US and Europe. You do not go out for boozy brunches in Kuwait, for example. Even within UAE, she spends a lot of her time in Abu Dhabi which does NOT have the party scene of Dubai. There are limits there that don't exist here and a sober lifestyle is more attainable.

I suspect she's an escort but not an actual yacht girl on a yacht. I suspect she's a guest with implied obligations. But it's also not unusual for royals to bankroll people without sex. A friend of mine nearly got caught up in that lifestyle and she was being bankrolled by a princess with no sex involved. Patronage is a thing there.

Yes, this is why I don't think she's an actual escort. I lived and worked in Dubai for several years, and knew multiple people who received huge amounts of money just for...basically being friends with royals. And there are a LOT of royals because they have multiple wives and huge families: so many princes and princesses.

There IS a LOT of drinking among expats in Abu Dhabi, though. It's mostly private parties there, but expats in Abu Dhabi/Dubai drank far more than any other country where I have lived (5). And if traffic is good, you can drive from Abu Dhabi to Dubai in about an hour and a half. However, I believe she lives in Dubai, not Abu Dhabi, in any case.

I disagree that there are limits in UAE drinking culture that don't exist in the west. Everything in Dubai is extreme or exaggerated, including the drinking culture. I have never seen so much day drinking (the brunches in hotels, restaurants, around pools, etc) as when I lived in the UAE; I wasn't into clubbing, but many of my colleagues were, and most drank quite heavily in the nightlife too. And I've lived in several European countries, including Eastern Europe (!), plus the US.

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Anonymous wrote:She really was so talented. I hope she gets to work again - gets her life together. I'd like to see what she'd do, with that opportunity!

If RObert Downey Jr could pull it together, there is hope for LiLo

From what is written about her in the media, she is still an addict and not in recovery. RDJ has been sober for years. Lindsay has been escorting in Dubai instead of focusing on her career and sobriety...

So the years he wasn't sober just don't matter? I mean he was in a bad way and now he is (as far as we know) a fine upstanding citizen. That can be the story for LiLo too.

Even when he was addict he was apparently a professional on set. Lilo did not have that reputation.

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No he wasn't. He was arrested multiple times, sentenced to jail time. The way he got a comeback was Mel Gibson put up money for him because no one would insure him. You want to toss this woman on the trash heap and I say, until she is dead, there is still hope for her.

Who the hell is rooting for a comeback? I'm around her age and consider her totally washed out. She showed talent as a kid and teen, but she never developed at all as an adult actress. There are so, so many people who are in their 20s and very promising, do you think there is any studio ambition to hire and promote a washed up yacht girl in her mid 30s who looks 48 and hasn't acted since 16ish. I don't. She's not some troubled "great thespian of our time" she was a cute kid and teen and then effed it up. Like so many stars before her. Is Tara Reid also due for a comeback? Hell no.

Oh, and I would also say as I did above: she's a woman. People don't like this arc for women. Drew Barrymore may have pulled it off to an extent, but she is Hollywood Royalty. LiLo is Long Island trash and their trash has been in tabloids forever.

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Anonymous wrote:She really was so talented. I hope she gets to work again - gets her life together. I'd like to see what she'd do, with that opportunity!

If RObert Downey Jr could pull it together, there is hope for LiLo

From what is written about her in the media, she is still an addict and not in recovery. RDJ has been sober for years. Lindsay has been escorting in Dubai instead of focusing on her career and sobriety...

So the years he wasn't sober just don't matter? I mean he was in a bad way and now he is (as far as we know) a fine upstanding citizen. That can be the story for LiLo too.

Even when he was addict he was apparently a professional on set. Lilo did not have that reputation.

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No he wasn't. He was arrested multiple times, sentenced to jail time. The way he got a comeback was Mel Gibson put up money for him because no one would insure him. You want to toss this woman on the trash heap and I say, until she is dead, there is still hope for her.

Who the hell is rooting for a comeback? I'm around her age and consider her totally washed out. She showed talent as a kid and teen, but she never developed at all as an adult actress. There are so, so many people who are in their 20s and very promising, do you think there is any studio ambition to hire and promote a washed up yacht girl in her mid 30s who looks 48 and hasn't acted since 16ish. I don't. She's not some troubled "great thespian of our time" she was a cute kid and teen and then effed it up. Like so many stars before her. Is Tara Reid also due for a comeback? Hell no.

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Anonymous wrote:She really was so talented. I hope she gets to work again - gets her life together. I'd like to see what she'd do, with that opportunity!

If RObert Downey Jr could pull it together, there is hope for LiLo

From what is written about her in the media, she is still an addict and not in recovery. RDJ has been sober for years. Lindsay has been escorting in Dubai instead of focusing on her career and sobriety...

So the years he wasn't sober just don't matter? I mean he was in a bad way and now he is (as far as we know) a fine upstanding citizen. That can be the story for LiLo too.

Even when he was addict he was apparently a professional on set. Lilo did not have that reputation.

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No he wasn't. He was arrested multiple times, sentenced to jail time. The way he got a comeback was Mel Gibson put up money for him because no one would insure him. You want to toss this woman on the trash heap and I say, until she is dead, there is still hope for her.

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Anonymous wrote:She really was so talented. I hope she gets to work again - gets her life together. I'd like to see what she'd do, with that opportunity!

If RObert Downey Jr could pull it together, there is hope for LiLo

From what is written about her in the media, she is still an addict and not in recovery. RDJ has been sober for years. Lindsay has been escorting in Dubai instead of focusing on her career and sobriety...

He's also twice her age. At her age RDJ was a flaming hot mess too. There's still hope for Lilo.

She's a woman and she has lost her looks prematurely. People are far more judgmental of females for this kind of thing and no one is really rooting for a comeback. She never even had a successful career as an adult.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect that she can't keep her sobriety in check unless she lives in a place where socializing doesn't routinely include alcohol. You can't even go out for dinner in the US, UK, or France (her previous haunts) without being around alcohol. In the Middle East, alcohol is much less visible so it's easier for an alcoholic to avoid because there are fewer triggers. I think she moved there, got bankrolled by royalty and rich sheikhs, and established a life there. I think she still drinks but I suspect her movement throughout the ME is directly linked to her sobriety status (Dubai etc when she's drinking, more conservative places when she's trying to recover).

She’s not being bankrolled by them for nothing. She is a working as an escort.

+1 and have you socialized in the ME? No lack of alcohol

Yes, I've been drunk in at least 5 ME countries including on the peninsula. But while it's everywhere in Dubai, you're wrong that it is as prevalent in the ME as in the US and Europe. You do not go out for boozy brunches in Kuwait, for example. Even within UAE, she spends a lot of her time in Abu Dhabi which does NOT have the party scene of Dubai. There are limits there that don't exist here and a sober lifestyle is more attainable.

I suspect she's an escort but not an actual yacht girl on a yacht. I suspect she's a guest with implied obligations. But it's also not unusual for royals to bankroll people without sex. A friend of mine nearly got caught up in that lifestyle and she was being bankrolled by a princess with no sex involved. Patronage is a thing there.

It’s extremely difficult for studios to get insurance for her

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Anonymous wrote:She wasn’t exiled. She’s intentionally whoring herself out overseas. Her behavior led her to be uninsurable and she made no effort to redeem herself, so she opted for a different career. That’s ok.

Whaat?

She’s a “yacht girl”. That’s how she’s been living the last few years.

What the hell is a yacht girl!?

Euphemism for escort.

But also being an escort on actual Greek and Saudi Arabian yachts.

this sadly was confirmed by one of her parents I think.

years ago I watched some sort of reality show about her, she was trying to make a comeback or something like that. She was in NYC and there was a S. Korean magazine that hired her for a photo shoot and interview for her because she would be on their cover. They flew to New York, had rented this studio that needed natural light so she was expected to be there during daylight hours. She partied all night the night before, didn't show up at all the next day, and the magazine is calling her, her agent, etc. She claimed she slept through her alarm (at 5pm?!). They told them the magazine would have the studio one more day but the team was flying back that next day evening so it was the next day or not at all. She promised to be there. Well same shenanigans again the next. I couldn't believe it. She just had to show up to get her pictures taken, she knew the reality show cameras were following her around and this all would be on tv and she did not GAF.

It was so incredibly insane and mentally odd. She's a nut job.

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Anonymous wrote:She was given chance after chance after chance after chance. The real question is why the hell was she given so many? I was flabbergasted when Oprah decided to put her up in a multi million dollar apartment and fund a reality show for her + all kinds of support (counseling, life coach, etc.). She STILL f-ed it up.

She is an addict and there is nothing that can be done unless she decides to fix it.

I think she was given so many chances because she had real talent when she was younger (Parent Trap, Mean Girls). People saw that, and they also saw how awful her family was, and they felt bad for her. It can't have been easy for her growing up the way she did. It wasn't just Oprah, also Tina Fey, and other people. I have a bit of a soft spot for her because I remember the sweet kid from Parent Trap.

But at some point, despite your terrible childhood, you have to grow up and decide to help yourself. She never did. It's really too bad.

Totally agree with you, but I almost think the Oprah thing enabled her. I watched that show, and it was painful. She had a 3 pm phone meeting with an agent who was trying to help her and she missed the call. She said sorry I overslept. Like....from the night before.

They had footage of her coming home at 7 am. You don't stay out all night unless you're on drugs. It was so obvious.

I agree she had talent and a lot of good will and people did take pity because her parents are so f-ed up. But damn. You can't save someone. They have to want to get help and stick with the program.

I mean she might be on drugs but also your life is boring.

HAHA I posted my above response before reading this one! See, you know how to live!

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Anonymous wrote:She was given chance after chance after chance after chance. The real question is why the hell was she given so many? I was flabbergasted when Oprah decided to put her up in a multi million dollar apartment and fund a reality show for her + all kinds of support (counseling, life coach, etc.). She STILL f-ed it up.

She is an addict and there is nothing that can be done unless she decides to fix it.

I think she was given so many chances because she had real talent when she was younger (Parent Trap, Mean Girls). People saw that, and they also saw how awful her family was, and they felt bad for her. It can't have been easy for her growing up the way she did. It wasn't just Oprah, also Tina Fey, and other people. I have a bit of a soft spot for her because I remember the sweet kid from Parent Trap.

But at some point, despite your terrible childhood, you have to grow up and decide to help yourself. She never did. It's really too bad.

Totally agree with you, but I almost think the Oprah thing enabled her. I watched that show, and it was painful. She had a 3 pm phone meeting with an agent who was trying to help her and she missed the call. She said sorry I overslept. Like....from the night before.

They had footage of her coming home at 7 am. You don't stay out all night unless you're on drugs. It was so obvious.

I agree she had talent and a lot of good will and people did take pity because her parents are so f-ed up. But damn. You can't save someone. They have to want to get help and stick with the program.

You haven't lived. I've spent MANY a night out til 7am and was just a good ole fashioned drinker.

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Anonymous wrote:She really was so talented. I hope she gets to work again - gets her life together. I'd like to see what she'd do, with that opportunity!

If RObert Downey Jr could pull it together, there is hope for LiLo

From what is written about her in the media, she is still an addict and not in recovery. RDJ has been sober for years. Lindsay has been escorting in Dubai instead of focusing on her career and sobriety...

He's also twice her age. At her age RDJ was a flaming hot mess too. There's still hope for Lilo.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect that she can't keep her sobriety in check unless she lives in a place where socializing doesn't routinely include alcohol. You can't even go out for dinner in the US, UK, or France (her previous haunts) without being around alcohol. In the Middle East, alcohol is much less visible so it's easier for an alcoholic to avoid because there are fewer triggers. I think she moved there, got bankrolled by royalty and rich sheikhs, and established a life there. I think she still drinks but I suspect her movement throughout the ME is directly linked to her sobriety status (Dubai etc when she's drinking, more conservative places when she's trying to recover).

She’s not being bankrolled by them for nothing. She is a working as an escort.

I've never read any reliable source claiming this, actually. Or that she is a yacht girl. I can believe she might take money to make appearances at rich sheiks' parties, but that doesn't make her an escort. She really just might like the lifestyle of Dubai, which is basically a giant party scene in the middle of the desert. If she is there, she also has the opportunity to fraternise with super rich people who aren't celebrities, which might be refreshing to her.

Also, I have lived in Dubai. Alcohol is EVERYWHERE, at every social event. It is impossible to avoid, and if a person is an alcoholic, Dubai is not going to allow them to avoid this scenario.

You are very naïve if you think people are paying her enough money to live her fairly luxurious lifestyle just for appearances... reliable sources confirmed she was quite broke. Oprah had to pay her rent back in the day.

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Anonymous wrote:She wasn’t exiled. She’s intentionally whoring herself out overseas. Her behavior led her to be uninsurable and she made no effort to redeem herself, so she opted for a different career. That’s ok.

Whaat?

She’s a “yacht girl”. That’s how she’s been living the last few years.

What the hell is a yacht girl!?

Euphemism for escort.

But also being an escort on actual Greek and Saudi Arabian yachts.