Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 16:41     Subject: Pipeline

Anonymous wrote:why is there a Baltimore soccer slap fight on a DC board? No one cares about Baltimore clubs and no one from DC is driving up 95 to join a Baltimore team


Pretty much the truth. Pipeline folks are crazy here. Baltimore just is not really within reach of most of NOVA or DMV. We just don't care about Pipeline that much for the same reason we don't care about Richmond that much. Our player pools are very different. But the Pipeline inferiority complex cannot be stopped or reasoned with.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 16:35     Subject: Pipeline

why is there a Baltimore soccer slap fight on a DC board? No one cares about Baltimore clubs and no one from DC is driving up 95 to join a Baltimore team
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 16:33     Subject: Re:Pipeline

Anonymous wrote:apl tournaments is all pipeline has now...lol. pipeline has been begging to get back into elite tournaments too


You sound petty and jealous; it doesn’t reflect well on you and if what you are saying is true, it is completely obvious what club you are affiliated with.

In any case, less than halfway thru October and my son’s Pipeline team has already participated in a tournament sponsored by someone other than apl.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 15:21     Subject: Re:Pipeline

apl tournaments is all pipeline has now...lol. pipeline has been begging to get back into elite tournaments too
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 15:00     Subject: Re:Pipeline

Honestly assumed we were doing apl tournaments for the same reason as Baltimore Celtics and Baltimore Union, to play against best teams in Mid-Atlantic.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 14:25     Subject: Pipeline

Why would Pipeline do area tournaments? They have done Delco, JefCup, Bethesda nd National League on the girls side. Now they will do ECNL showcases.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 14:16     Subject: Re:Pipeline

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread on pipeline. I think many people have had the same problems. They are great with social media but do not develop the players. I think it's also important to point out their problems with other organizations. They always seem to be the aggressors. There was a lawsuit with an area club that they lost. I think the lawsuit had to do with trying to steal players but I'm sure everyone can look up the case if they are interested. You'd think there'd be a record of it somewhere. If you notice, they also aren't in any area tournaments. I think napoleon likely angered someone?

I felt that a few select players get all the attention. This is on the boys' side and it's likely the same on the girls'. The promises are empty. I wouldn't send anyone there. This organization is for the few close to the owner and the rest just feed napoleon's pocket.

Avoid at all costs.


How do you steal players?


You can’t which is why the Coppermine litigation did not go anywhere.


Didn't go anywhere? There not allowed to be in Elite tournaments because of the lawsuit.


??? You must be the same poster that falsely claimed that Pipeline would not be allowed into encl, was on the verge of bankruptcy and other nonsense. Personally, given what I know of Coppermine management, wouldn’t surprise me if there was a connection between them and you.


Ok Pipeline Dad. Why don't you ask you the big guys why your teams can't go to any of the Elite tournaments anymore? Ever wonder why your kid's team is only doing APL tournaments all of a sudden?


Not Pipeline dad, imagine that. Not even male. But expect this intelligence is as false as all the other rumors you’ve posted.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 14:04     Subject: Re:Pipeline

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread on pipeline. I think many people have had the same problems. They are great with social media but do not develop the players. I think it's also important to point out their problems with other organizations. They always seem to be the aggressors. There was a lawsuit with an area club that they lost. I think the lawsuit had to do with trying to steal players but I'm sure everyone can look up the case if they are interested. You'd think there'd be a record of it somewhere. If you notice, they also aren't in any area tournaments. I think napoleon likely angered someone?

I felt that a few select players get all the attention. This is on the boys' side and it's likely the same on the girls'. The promises are empty. I wouldn't send anyone there. This organization is for the few close to the owner and the rest just feed napoleon's pocket.

Avoid at all costs.


How do you steal players?


You can’t which is why the Coppermine litigation did not go anywhere.


Didn't go anywhere? There not allowed to be in Elite tournaments because of the lawsuit.


??? You must be the same poster that falsely claimed that Pipeline would not be allowed into encl, was on the verge of bankruptcy and other nonsense. Personally, given what I know of Coppermine management, wouldn’t surprise me if there was a connection between them and you.


Ok Pipeline Dad. Why don't you ask you the big guys why your teams can't go to any of the Elite tournaments anymore? Ever wonder why your kid's team is only doing APL tournaments all of a sudden?
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 13:55     Subject: Re:Pipeline

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread on pipeline. I think many people have had the same problems. They are great with social media but do not develop the players. I think it's also important to point out their problems with other organizations. They always seem to be the aggressors. There was a lawsuit with an area club that they lost. I think the lawsuit had to do with trying to steal players but I'm sure everyone can look up the case if they are interested. You'd think there'd be a record of it somewhere. If you notice, they also aren't in any area tournaments. I think napoleon likely angered someone?

I felt that a few select players get all the attention. This is on the boys' side and it's likely the same on the girls'. The promises are empty. I wouldn't send anyone there. This organization is for the few close to the owner and the rest just feed napoleon's pocket.

Avoid at all costs.


How do you steal players?


You can’t which is why the Coppermine litigation did not go anywhere.


Didn't go anywhere? There not allowed to be in Elite tournaments because of the lawsuit.


??? You must be the same poster that falsely claimed that Pipeline would not be allowed into encl, was on the verge of bankruptcy and other nonsense. Personally, given what I know of Coppermine management, wouldn’t surprise me if there was a connection between them and you.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 13:45     Subject: Re:Pipeline

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread on pipeline. I think many people have had the same problems. They are great with social media but do not develop the players. I think it's also important to point out their problems with other organizations. They always seem to be the aggressors. There was a lawsuit with an area club that they lost. I think the lawsuit had to do with trying to steal players but I'm sure everyone can look up the case if they are interested. You'd think there'd be a record of it somewhere. If you notice, they also aren't in any area tournaments. I think napoleon likely angered someone?

I felt that a few select players get all the attention. This is on the boys' side and it's likely the same on the girls'. The promises are empty. I wouldn't send anyone there. This organization is for the few close to the owner and the rest just feed napoleon's pocket.

Avoid at all costs.


How do you steal players?


You can’t which is why the Coppermine litigation did not go anywhere.


Didn't go anywhere? There not allowed to be in Elite tournaments because of the lawsuit.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 13:33     Subject: Re:Pipeline

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread on pipeline. I think many people have had the same problems. They are great with social media but do not develop the players. I think it's also important to point out their problems with other organizations. They always seem to be the aggressors. There was a lawsuit with an area club that they lost. I think the lawsuit had to do with trying to steal players but I'm sure everyone can look up the case if they are interested. You'd think there'd be a record of it somewhere. If you notice, they also aren't in any area tournaments. I think napoleon likely angered someone?

I felt that a few select players get all the attention. This is on the boys' side and it's likely the same on the girls'. The promises are empty. I wouldn't send anyone there. This organization is for the few close to the owner and the rest just feed napoleon's pocket.

Avoid at all costs.


How do you steal players?


I don't have first had information about the Coppermine-Pipeline dispute, but over the years, I've see several scenarios for poaching. For players, a coach, or more often a parent from a coach's team, will approach and player and parents to compliment the and invite them to come practice with the team, with the hope being that the kid will jump ship and come to the new club. As far are poaching teams, oftentimes a coach will have a successful team at one club and become disillusioned for one reason or another - autonomy, the club's technical direction, general ego BS, whatever. The coach then shops his entire team around and winds up taking the majority of his players to the other club. Sometimes this even happens after tryouts.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 13:33     Subject: Re:Pipeline

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread on pipeline. I think many people have had the same problems. They are great with social media but do not develop the players. I think it's also important to point out their problems with other organizations. They always seem to be the aggressors. There was a lawsuit with an area club that they lost. I think the lawsuit had to do with trying to steal players but I'm sure everyone can look up the case if they are interested. You'd think there'd be a record of it somewhere. If you notice, they also aren't in any area tournaments. I think napoleon likely angered someone?

I felt that a few select players get all the attention. This is on the boys' side and it's likely the same on the girls'. The promises are empty. I wouldn't send anyone there. This organization is for the few close to the owner and the rest just feed napoleon's pocket.

Avoid at all costs.


How do you steal players?


You can’t which is why the Coppermine litigation did not go anywhere.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 13:24     Subject: Re:Pipeline

Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread on pipeline. I think many people have had the same problems. They are great with social media but do not develop the players. I think it's also important to point out their problems with other organizations. They always seem to be the aggressors. There was a lawsuit with an area club that they lost. I think the lawsuit had to do with trying to steal players but I'm sure everyone can look up the case if they are interested. You'd think there'd be a record of it somewhere. If you notice, they also aren't in any area tournaments. I think napoleon likely angered someone?

I felt that a few select players get all the attention. This is on the boys' side and it's likely the same on the girls'. The promises are empty. I wouldn't send anyone there. This organization is for the few close to the owner and the rest just feed napoleon's pocket.

Avoid at all costs.


How do you steal players?
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 12:24     Subject: Re:Pipeline

Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread on pipeline. I think many people have had the same problems. They are great with social media but do not develop the players. I think it's also important to point out their problems with other organizations. They always seem to be the aggressors. There was a lawsuit with an area club that they lost. I think the lawsuit had to do with trying to steal players but I'm sure everyone can look up the case if they are interested. You'd think there'd be a record of it somewhere. If you notice, they also aren't in any area tournaments. I think napoleon likely angered someone?

I felt that a few select players get all the attention. This is on the boys' side and it's likely the same on the girls'. The promises are empty. I wouldn't send anyone there. This organization is for the few close to the owner and the rest just feed napoleon's pocket.

Avoid at all costs.


Please, Coppermine is a million times worse. . . Suing others because they can’t keep their coaches (who went places other than Pipeline) or their players (same).
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 12:20     Subject: Pipeline

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Anonymous wrote:This is a great discussion. I don't know of any of the big clubs that really develop players from the ground up. I think most try to focus on producing winning teams at u16 and older. Those teams produce college players and YNT players, which attracts more kids and money. Bethesda and Pipeline are the only successful teams I know who tend to have players from their youth teams move up to the older clubs. FCV doesn't and I doubt you will find more than four or five players.


This is another easy and tired trope that clubs don't develop players. They certainly do, it's just that players move on more than in the past. The real reason players are so transient is the huge number of options available, and the constant push to play on the best teams.


Part of what makes a great team is having consistency. You see this with kids who play together for years. When you have the constant club hopping, you lose the ability for the kids to learn the style of the coach and the strengths/weaknesses of their teammates. By pipeline encouraging this behavior with rolling tryouts and letting anyone jump on a team at any time, it does not allow for team development, let alone individual player development. As a parent (and a pipeline parent), I am paying a ridiculous amount of money to have a quality coach help to train my child and develop him into a better soccer player. I am not paying pipeline to get another star on their jersey. The wins are nice but not at the expense of my child actually learning how to improve.

As others have said, it is a toxic environment and one that I think will come to kick them in the a$$ eventually. We will be leaving at the end of the fall season after several years with the club.


Agreed. We're all familiar with the local clubs and know none are perfect. However, mentioning how pipleline is toxic is right on!