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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think it comes down to the personality of the child. My first I had to sleep train many times over after a trip, sickness, really any disturbance. My second never needed CIO once! She is happy to go to bed and settles down right to sleep or chats and sings till she does sleep. We didn’t do anything else different, our second is just more laid back.

Yup. There is no magic formula. Every kid is different.

+1. My older DD sleep trained around a year old using the Sleep Lady Shuffle. Never cried for more than 30 min. Once she started sleeping through the night, she slept like a dream. DD2 cried herself to sleep for 30 min to an hour at least once per week for 5 months. And she still had night wakings. At 18 months she is starting to sleep through the night.

So both your kids CIO. I don’t think that’s the point of this thread.

So 30 min of crying with mom shushing/patting is CIO? I thought CIO was shut the door and let the baby cry.

Did the baby whisperer method (the workbook, not the regular paperback). We'd gotten into the habit of putting her into the crib when she was asleep, but didn't realize that it wouldn't always work like that. So when the baby was about 4 months old for 3 nights in a row, planned ahead of time, I picked her up to comfort her each time she cried and then laid her back in her crib so she could learn to fall asleep on her mattress instead of in my arms.

As it said to expect in the book, night one was rough, night 2 was a ton better, and night three I think I only had to go in once or twice. She still nursed once a night until she was close to 1, but i always put her back into the crib to fall asleep and we were all much better rested and I didn't feel like a dairy anymore.

My kids slept in a co-sleeper next to me until ~ 6 mos, then in a crib in our room until 1 year. The older one never latched well, so she got pumped milk in a bottle, and the younger one nursed. Both were fed on demand. And possibly most importantly, both were given dreamfeeds before I went to sleep.

We also started a bedtime routine (bath, book, bottle) when they were 3 mos old, which seemed to help them regulate.

I suspect people are right and it's temperament dependent, but that's what we did.

Coslept with them until they were 4. Took a toll on my marriage. Next baby cried it out for 2 days and then sttn forever more.

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Anonymous wrote:Coslept & breastfed.

+1

+100 to cosleeping

Anonymous wrote:Our second did not need CIO. It may, of course, have just been his temperament, but I can say that what I did differently with him than our first was that I was much better at putting him down to sleep before he got overtired.

Us too. My second was put down sleepy but awake from day 1. I had a barely 2 year old and frankly didn't have the time to sit with her forever to sleep. I also followed the suggested nap schedules more closely. That said, she's been a great sleeper since the day she was born. The hospital ped was concerned about how much she slept but she was 100% fine, she just always liked sleep, and still does. Our first pediatrician was also about waking the baby to feed at night, which I don't think helps at all; our current pediatrician does not believe in that if their weight is okay. I felt a little guilty about how well-rested I was with a newborn and a 2 year old because I was getting 4-6 hour stretches from the beginning. She's 3 now.

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Anonymous wrote: I don't believe in colic..

Mothers, in times when they had twenty children and large sample sizes, believed in colic. So do modern doctors.

https://americanmigrainefoundation.org/resource-library/migraine-colic-connection/

"Colic has been suggested as an early life expression of migraine because:

Children with migraine are more likely to have experienced infantile colic compared to children without migraine
Mothers with migraine have been found to be 2.5 times more likely to have infants with colic than mothers without migraine. Fathers with migraine are 2 times more likely to have infants with colic than fathers without migraine."

So, they believed babies had headaches? Hence real pain of some sort? Hence, no crying for no reason whatsoever? Again, no colic.

Coslept until 2.5 with each child and heading that way with child #3 (19 months currently). It worked for us

Anonymous wrote:... what did you do to help your baby sleep well?

A few things:

1. Blackout curtains

2. White noise machine

3. Merlin sleep suit after she was done swaddling

4. (This is probably the biggest one). We did not go in unless she was upset. I know a lot of parents who would go in at the smallest sound. Nope. If she was up before about 7am and wasn’t upset, we did not go in.

5. Careful attention to wake intervals when she was much younger.

She started sleeping through the night with no interruptions (12 hours) at about 5 months.

Anonymous wrote:Coslept & breastfed.

Yep!

Anonymous wrote: I don't believe in colic..

Mothers, in times when they had twenty children and large sample sizes, believed in colic. So do modern doctors.

https://americanmigrainefoundation.org/resource-library/migraine-colic-connection/

"Colic has been suggested as an early life expression of migraine because:

Children with migraine are more likely to have experienced infantile colic compared to children without migraine
Mothers with migraine have been found to be 2.5 times more likely to have infants with colic than mothers without migraine. Fathers with migraine are 2 times more likely to have infants with colic than fathers without migraine."

Anonymous wrote:... what did you do to help your baby sleep well?

My go-to is always putting my kids down drowsy that awake from when they are itty bitty so they are used to putting themselves to sleep.

I will say that I will do modified CIO but usually it's not more than 5 -10 minutes. It's really funny I remember the other day I was on the phone with a friend and I told him I had to get off because the baby was crying and by the time I hung up and started walking up the stairs he had already fallen asleep

Our second did not need CIO. It may, of course, have just been his temperament, but I can say that what I did differently with him than our first was that I was much better at putting him down to sleep before he got overtired.

We put our babies down when they started getting tired and then soothed them to sleep. If you hold them until they fall asleep, they don't learn to sleep on their own. We learned that the hard way.