Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 07:07     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
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Anonymous wrote:You get a $100 service, pay 10% in tax and 20% in tip, so you are actually paying $130. No one factors this in, why can't it just be an all inclusive price?


You can’t include tax most places.


It’s not to be rolled into price.


In Australia they do this. The price on the item is the price. Also they don’t do pennies. Everything rounds up or down to the 5.


Perhaps pay service staff more than $4.75 an hour without medical benefits? And don’t tip, but perhaps don’t complain about the rising cost of your $200 dinner. Yes, $300. Wait, what? Eh. What’s it worth. They’re getting your money one way or another. Why not give it to the people who serve each other in communities? Raise the wages. Over tippers can still tip, Sandals-type no tipping policies can be instituted across America. Yay.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 07:02     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am very thankful that the restaurant where my daughter works is not full of morons like you people. She makes about $1000 a week average in tips. She does not complain about low tippers because they are rare and she understands that they typically just aren't too bright. High tippers more than make up for them. Even so, I would like to request that you all stay out of any fine dining restaurant anywhere. All the servers, including my daughter, appreciate it.


Take it to the "I love ridiculous tipping culture" thread. We're busy here ya goof!!


To you people it's a ridiculous tipping culture issue, to her it's how she makes a living. I do get that none of you care about that. It takes skill and intelligence and she loves what she does.


If your daughter had skill and intelligence, she'd be able to make an honest living without manipulating people into handing over more money in the form of "voluntary tips" after they already paid for a service.


Yeah! That’s right! She could become a lobbyist or a politician and make a honest living, or maybe she should strip since tips are expected there.

Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 06:57     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You get a $100 service, pay 10% in tax and 20% in tip, so you are actually paying $130. No one factors this in, why can't it just be an all inclusive price?


You can’t include tax most places.


It’s not to be rolled into price.


In Australia they do this. The price on the item is the price. Also they don’t do pennies. Everything rounds up or down to the 5.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 06:26     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Pp, personally I hate all the extra new tips (fine with restaurants, hair cutters, taxis) but I would rather the minimum wage be increased by localities (as in the same minimum does not work in Iowa as it does here) and bake in the fair wage to the total price.

I do not tip on those take out place screens like at coffee spots and stopped ordering from spots like Door Dash as they crazy fees made me nuts.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 04:51     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
People like OP and others who despise tipping are truly a part of the entitled class, longing for the days of a small aristocracy and large poverty stricken mass. Let them eat cake, eh?

Anti-tippers feel that they are entitled for low wage workers to go above and beyond for you because it’s “their job” , “their place in life”, that “they chose”... probably want to make America great and bring back slavery too... why pay them anything at all eh?

People should really spend an hour picking your personalized grocery list, haul your 67 hand picked grocery items30 minutes to your house, for 5 dollars, along with ensuring they are carefully transported to your home...with no tip?

Ok.

Slavery’s the way to go for you!

Pretty simple. If you make the choice to support a business that you know does not pay a living wage, AND you don’t tip, you are capitalizing on slavery/ low wage worker exploitation.

I bet if you were paid what you were really worth...or testily produced... it’d be TREMENDOUSLY lower than this society has inflated your degree and social status to be worth.



Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 04:27     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:I switched almost entirely to takeout and just put $1 into the tip jar, done.


+1. Those $1000 tip weeks won’t be back for quite a while.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 03:52     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Totally agree, OP.

Nobody wants to feel like they're being unfair to others, but nobody wants to feel ripped off either. Just charge the freaking price you want, and people can decide whether or not to buy your service and everyone can relax about it.


I don't believe that 20% tip is normal either the way many people and surveys claim (of course they'd be incentivized to push the amount up higher and higher). I think 10% is fine unless someone really went out of their way.


Agreed. I’m not in favor of tipping but 10% is completely sufficient. 15% is a lot and 20% is just outrageous. And now people are saying the norm is 25 and 30%. Where will it end? What will eventually be too much? 50%? 60?
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 03:47     Subject: Re:I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:There's a thread in restaurant forum about tipping on $300 bottle of wine, and anyone saying that 'No, I don't want to give a 20% on that' gets scolded. Now, I don't plan to order a $300 bottle of wine any time too soon, but I do think that I should be entitled of treating myself to an expensive bottle of wine or champagne for whatever reason, without being obligated to hand over extra $60 for waitstaff [audience is booing at this point, I assume]
Lets compare a bill of 100 for food + 60 bottle of wine vs 100 for food + 300 for champagne. 20% tip would be $32 vs $80 for exact same work (not calculating taxes or, ahem, tip on taxes). I wouldn't tip 32 bucks on a $400 dollar bill, but then again - I don't want to feel obligated to tip $80 either. Since why does my opinion not matter? Maybe even the restaurant owner would like me to return, despite my cheap tips, to buy more wine? How come anything other that 'whatever, 50 bucks here or there' is a social faux pas?
(Additonally, the system where restaurant owners are allowed not to pay even a minimum wage, and this obligation is rolled onto customers, is ridiculous. Guess we can be glad that the service of cooking food or delivering produce to the restaurant is included in price, for now.)

The same for salon services. Lets say I pay $250 for cut+color. It is not a cheap service. The cost of actual product used is $25 bucks, lets say other costs, incl the portion of rent, are $50. That would leave $175 for the service. Not earth shattering, but not at all horrible for 2 hrs of expert work. So anyone who doesn't add extra 50 for service (+extra if someone else washes your hair) is a bad person and doesn't deserve to have their hair cut?

And those above aren't even the most annoying examples. When a casual 'serve yourself at the counter' type eatery has tip options starting from 18% and going up to 30% in the system, then we're really talking!


YES YES YES! Esp hate the people who social shame and act like $50/20/10 is nothing.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 02:58     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
I switched almost entirely to takeout and just put $1 into the tip jar, done.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 02:47     Subject: Re:I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Tipping could change now since restaurants do not employ too many people and have less customers . It’s hard to pay min wage to servers with razor thin profit margin. In order to provide good service and accommodate restaurants hires as many as possibly Servers so they can to provide better service to serve as fast as possible and make customer happy . bagels and coffee shop have different overhead and not as many employees so they can afford to pay them min wage comfortably. Now that most restaurants doing take out some charge service fee ranging from 10-20 percent . So you do not have to pay tip on top of it . Some of you should be happy it’s the way restaurants charging that price increase you felt like they should just charge .
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 02:16     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
If we all stop tipping it will work
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 02:02     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Op, I guess I do not indulge in a lot paid services because I am not asked to tip constantly. Could it be the tipping culture is really just outsourcing culture?
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 23:27     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am very thankful that the restaurant where my daughter works is not full of morons like you people. She makes about $1000 a week average in tips. She does not complain about low tippers because they are rare and she understands that they typically just aren't too bright. High tippers more than make up for them. Even so, I would like to request that you all stay out of any fine dining restaurant anywhere. All the servers, including my daughter, appreciate it.


Take it to the "I love ridiculous tipping culture" thread. We're busy here ya goof!!


To you people it's a ridiculous tipping culture issue, to her it's how she makes a living. I do get that none of you care about that. It takes skill and intelligence and she loves what she does.


Your daughter is not entitled to other people's money just because she loves what she does. People have an issue with how pervasive and rampant tipping expectations are getting and are venting about it a bit.

We get it, you like and support your kid. Bravo for you. Your condescending attitude is making you look like a defensive idiot though.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 23:27     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am very thankful that the restaurant where my daughter works is not full of morons like you people. She makes about $1000 a week average in tips. She does not complain about low tippers because they are rare and she understands that they typically just aren't too bright. High tippers more than make up for them. Even so, I would like to request that you all stay out of any fine dining restaurant anywhere. All the servers, including my daughter, appreciate it.


Take it to the "I love ridiculous tipping culture" thread. We're busy here ya goof!!


To you people it's a ridiculous tipping culture issue, to her it's how she makes a living. I do get that none of you care about that. It takes skill and intelligence and she loves what she does.


If your daughter had skill and intelligence, she'd be able to make an honest living without manipulating people into handing over more money in the form of "voluntary tips" after they already paid for a service.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 23:18     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:I am very thankful that the restaurant where my daughter works is not full of morons like you people. She makes about $1000 a week average in tips. She does not complain about low tippers because they are rare and she understands that they typically just aren't too bright. High tippers more than make up for them. Even so, I would like to request that you all stay out of any fine dining restaurant anywhere. All the servers, including my daughter, appreciate it.


I am fine with the likes of you taking me for an idiot. Being underestimated has its uses!