Anonymous
Post 10/11/2020 20:26     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Anonymous wrote:A few things-since I actually live in and have a kid in CCPS.

CC has seriously underpaid its teachers for many years relative to all of the surrounding counties. We're generally the training ground for young teachers who then leave for more money in nearby counties. CC can't hardly attract teachers without COVID being in the mix and the surrounding counties aren't going back yet.

The plan is to hire substitutes (have to be 18 and have a high school diploma) to keep classrooms under control where teachers aren't coming back but continuing to teach virtually.

CC hasn't met the COVID case benchmarks set by the BOE to return to the classrooms. Our county health department head has stated his discomfort with starting the hybrid approach now, but some of the BOE members said that "we'll hope for the best" and that it will be "messy."

Parents have gotten emails from CCPS stating that, for example, they're ventilating the schools per the CDC's guidelines to "the extent possible." My kid's school was built in 1979 and hardly has any windows that open. The HVAC system is very old and is slated to be replaced in the next few years. The handwashing facilities in the restrooms are sorely lacking (no hot water), complete with hand air dryers.

One of CC's Commissioners (Bouchat) is pushing to rid the county of masking requirements and other COVID prevention measures. This is a popular sentiment in CC.

There is a big parental push to start school and rec sports. The BOE's expressed concern about starting sports before starting hybrid.

I don't understand the hate for the teachers' unions. Why is a union that protects teachers' health interests bad, but a police union that protects sketchy cops is good?


Did anyone say police unions are good? Certainly not me.

Unions can do good, but at this point, they're doing more bad than good.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2020 20:23     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

A few things-since I actually live in and have a kid in CCPS.

CC has seriously underpaid its teachers for many years relative to all of the surrounding counties. We're generally the training ground for young teachers who then leave for more money in nearby counties. CC can't hardly attract teachers without COVID being in the mix and the surrounding counties aren't going back yet.

The plan is to hire substitutes (have to be 18 and have a high school diploma) to keep classrooms under control where teachers aren't coming back but continuing to teach virtually.

CC hasn't met the COVID case benchmarks set by the BOE to return to the classrooms. Our county health department head has stated his discomfort with starting the hybrid approach now, but some of the BOE members said that "we'll hope for the best" and that it will be "messy."

Parents have gotten emails from CCPS stating that, for example, they're ventilating the schools per the CDC's guidelines to "the extent possible." My kid's school was built in 1979 and hardly has any windows that open. The HVAC system is very old and is slated to be replaced in the next few years. The handwashing facilities in the restrooms are sorely lacking (no hot water), complete with hand air dryers.

One of CC's Commissioners (Bouchat) is pushing to rid the county of masking requirements and other COVID prevention measures. This is a popular sentiment in CC.

There is a big parental push to start school and rec sports. The BOE's expressed concern about starting sports before starting hybrid.

I don't understand the hate for the teachers' unions. Why is a union that protects teachers' health interests bad, but a police union that protects sketchy cops is good?
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2020 22:08     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Hazard pay. Now.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2020 13:39     Subject: Re:On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

What is the latest for Carroll Co? I heard they approved a hybrid model, but no teachers are actually returning? So it's just "helpers" in the classroom while the teachers are remote?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 10:12     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Fine, bring the kids in and let the remote teacher teach from a tv screen in the corner of the classroom. Let her prove she can do her job “remotely.” When the classroom inevitably dissolved into chaos with the tv teacher, fire the teacher for incompetent.




You could always hire some of those laid off waiyers or disney workers to do classroom management as a para


Yeah, those are groups you want managing large groups of children.

Yea, they will teach them to stand in line, and kick them out of school if they cut in line.

How many of them have degrees, do you think? You want them to teach your kids the 3Rs?


Parents don't care. They've made it abundantly clear that they don't care if a teacher has credentials or a degree or anything.


Why would they? Teachers' masters programs are a joke, which isn't that much of a program because real masters programs don't teach things that would be taught in primary/secondary school.

A undergraduate degree is somewhat useful, but it probably serves to just weed out some stupid or lazy people than to actually teach skills important for teaching.

If teachers were easier to fire, you could probably drop a lot of the required credentials.


Masters programs teach content about being an educator. I agree that sometimes the methodology of teaching is very remedial but the content is not
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 10:11     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Anonymous wrote:Tons and tons of young teachers Looking for work. Hire them


Citation needed
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2020 13:29     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tons and tons of young teachers Looking for work. Hire them

Where are they? This is not just a blue state issue, btw.

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/514952-schools-nationwide-brace-for-teacher-shortage-amid-coronavirus

https://www.fox6now.com/news/pandemic-reduced-number-of-teachers-by-20-schools-now-face-substitute-shortage

another...

https://tucson.com/news/local/arizonas-teacher-shortage-worsens-as-hundreds-walk-away-due-to-covid-19/article_ece2ccc3-2e03-59c5-b433-ac08483c85fd.html


Why aren't those red states hiring all these "tons of young teachers" looking for work?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2020 13:28     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Anonymous
Post 10/04/2020 11:49     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Tons and tons of young teachers Looking for work. Hire them
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2020 16:26     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fine, bring the kids in and let the remote teacher teach from a tv screen in the corner of the classroom. Let her prove she can do her job “remotely.” When the classroom inevitably dissolved into chaos with the tv teacher, fire the teacher for incompetent.




You could always hire some of those laid off waiyers or disney workers to do classroom management as a para


Yeah, those are groups you want managing large groups of children.

Yea, they will teach them to stand in line, and kick them out of school if they cut in line.

How many of them have degrees, do you think? You want them to teach your kids the 3Rs?


Parents don't care. They've made it abundantly clear that they don't care if a teacher has credentials or a degree or anything.


Why would they? Teachers' masters programs are a joke, which isn't that much of a program because real masters programs don't teach things that would be taught in primary/secondary school.

A undergraduate degree is somewhat useful, but it probably serves to just weed out some stupid or lazy people than to actually teach skills important for teaching.

If teachers were easier to fire, you could probably drop a lot of the required credentials.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2020 16:20     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fine, bring the kids in and let the remote teacher teach from a tv screen in the corner of the classroom. Let her prove she can do her job “remotely.” When the classroom inevitably dissolved into chaos with the tv teacher, fire the teacher for incompetent.




You could always hire some of those laid off waiyers or disney workers to do classroom management as a para


Yeah, those are groups you want managing large groups of children.

Yea, they will teach them to stand in line, and kick them out of school if they cut in line.

How many of them have degrees, do you think? You want them to teach your kids the 3Rs?


Parents don't care. They've made it abundantly clear that they don't care if a teacher has credentials or a degree or anything.


More like our society has little respect for teachers and thinks anyone can do the job.

There's that saying, "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach."

Unfortunately, a sizable segment of the US really thinks that.


The unions' reaction to in-person learning certainly didn't going to help public opinion. If teachers don't think education is important, why would the public think teachers are important?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2020 11:50     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fine, bring the kids in and let the remote teacher teach from a tv screen in the corner of the classroom. Let her prove she can do her job “remotely.” When the classroom inevitably dissolved into chaos with the tv teacher, fire the teacher for incompetent.




You could always hire some of those laid off waiyers or disney workers to do classroom management as a para


Yeah, those are groups you want managing large groups of children.

Yea, they will teach them to stand in line, and kick them out of school if they cut in line.

How many of them have degrees, do you think? You want them to teach your kids the 3Rs?


Parents don't care. They've made it abundantly clear that they don't care if a teacher has credentials or a degree or anything.


More like our society has little respect for teachers and thinks anyone can do the job.

There's that saying, "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach."

Unfortunately, a sizable segment of the US really thinks that.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 20:47     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fine, bring the kids in and let the remote teacher teach from a tv screen in the corner of the classroom. Let her prove she can do her job “remotely.” When the classroom inevitably dissolved into chaos with the tv teacher, fire the teacher for incompetent.




You could always hire some of those laid off waiyers or disney workers to do classroom management as a para


And the remote teacher can split her salary with the para.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 20:45     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fine, bring the kids in and let the remote teacher teach from a tv screen in the corner of the classroom. Let her prove she can do her job “remotely.” When the classroom inevitably dissolved into chaos with the tv teacher, fire the teacher for incompetent.




You could always hire some of those laid off waiyers or disney workers to do classroom management as a para


Yeah, those are groups you want managing large groups of children.

Yea, they will teach them to stand in line, and kick them out of school if they cut in line.

How many of them have degrees, do you think? You want them to teach your kids the 3Rs?


Parents don't care. They've made it abundantly clear that they don't care if a teacher has credentials or a degree or anything.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2020 17:59     Subject: On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fine, bring the kids in and let the remote teacher teach from a tv screen in the corner of the classroom. Let her prove she can do her job “remotely.” When the classroom inevitably dissolved into chaos with the tv teacher, fire the teacher for incompetent.




You could always hire some of those laid off waiyers or disney workers to do classroom management as a para


Yeah, those are groups you want managing large groups of children.

Yea, they will teach them to stand in line, and kick them out of school if they cut in line.

How many of them have degrees, do you think? You want them to teach your kids the 3Rs?