I had this attitude as a teen but wasn’t belligerent because I was a girl. But anyway I was always impressed that my mom would come to teachers meetings and defend me and turn it around on them to the bitter end. I am such a goody two shoes now as an adult to the detriment of a lot so she must have sensed something in me. But to me that was old school Southern European la famila style. I need to do that more for my kids.

Anonymous wrote:15:04. Also, on the odd chance that I were to be scolded or if I thought a teacher would advise either of my parents about an academic or disciplinary problem of mine, there would be hell to pay. My parents trusted me, but if a teacher thought it important to bring up, you can be sure my parents thanked my teacher and would absolutely “take care of” any problem.
They had tremendous respect for my teachers. Plus, I’d have been in massive trouble with my folks.

I had a healthy fear of consequences meted out by my strict parents.

What you’re describing in your examples is the opposite extreme which is super unhealthy. If you’re crying because someone asked you to turn the music down, there’s something seriously wrong with how you’re being raised.

So weird that I am reading this topic. My husband and I were just discussing this the other day. Our kids are 18 and 20 and wow, either we are old and have a poor memory OR these kids over 16 are pushing back big time on any type of authority. I remember being a teen in the 80s and we were smart asses who "knew everything", but I don't recall anything like what I'm seeing today. I was really impressed by out kids peers who were involved in social justice and protesting, until I realized that a good number of them are protesting almost anything with out any understanding. The lack of respect for adults and teachers has gotten bad, too. I'm all for independent thinking but it really seems like the recent generation of teens can be very oppositional to any authority.


Our son is an easy going, respectful kid, but our daughter has gotten out of hand. We've had some unpleasant conflict because we won't tolerate this in our home, but she is 18, (and know it). She dated a young man that we didn't care for and that fool protested for both pro choice And Pro life at separate rallies. Ugh.

OK, everyone. My neighbors are currently playing their music loud enough for me to be able to hear it clearly four doors down. At 11:35. Am I allowed to call the cops? Can my teenager call the cops? Does it matter what kind of music they are playing? Polka bad, go-go good?

Good on those who challenge and question authority, it shows a faith that the system can improve.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't stand kids/teens that blindly follow rules by random adults that think they are an "authority".

I teach my kids to never listen to an adult unless they are literally in charge. So if the life guard says turn down the music, turn it down, but if random Becky or Karen say 'turn down the music" they don't need to do so.

You have the right to do what you want, except when it infringes on others' rights.

In your example, I would then call the police with a noise complaint. Since I ALWAYS record any communication with unknown kids, so that there is no question about what is said or done, the police will have proof that they were asked politely to turn it down.

Way to raise cooperative, congenial adults.

Listening to Music does not infringe on your rights... FFS

Go for it, the cops will think you are a lunatic.. my family is full of LEOs and lawyers and judges.

Way to be a busy body annoying adult.

Take care of yourself ... stop micromanaging everybody you encounter.

Anybody surprised by the absurd, entitled attitude and then the bolded quote? Nope.

It’s not entitled to know the law and the fact every time a Karen gets annoyed and calls the police it’s a misuse of police and you lady are the entitled piece of shit.

You have no basis in the law. You do not have rights to police everybody around you.

Children are raped every day by adults because people like you teach them to listen to adults even when they are completely wrong.

You are wrong! Get over it and your entitled self.

Honey, we've told you this before when you've come in to threads and made these very similar responses -- you need therapy. It will help you tremendously. Please go get it. If you are not able to find a qualified therapist on your own then tell us and we'll help you. Hugs. Seeing your posts literally makes me cry for you that you are so angry and hurt, and lashing out the way you are.

Anonymous wrote:PP and I think this is direct result of maybe two generations of parents who OVER explain and complicate every thing that pertains to their child. There’s never a simple “no!” or a withering look - it’s “Kaden Drake? Friend? Let’s put it down. Kaden? Are you hearing me? Hello? Kaden? Let’s re-think: are you making a good choice? You should go ahead and think about putting it down, mmmkay? Alright, buddy. That’s 1. One. Twooooo. Kaden? Remember what I asked?”

Parents have become wimpy pushovers. Choices given. Questions asked. Zero discipline. Time outs and count downs mean plenty of time to throw a temper tantrum or bargain.

Okay, that made me LOL. Thank you!!!