Anonymous
09/01/2020 15:06
Subject: I want to be Mormon
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Same and we lived there for three years. The nicest people I have been met. I want my kids raised like them too, except I drink coffee and coke though.
You can drink coke, but not coffee or tea. It's hot drinks that are the problem.
Mormons can’t drink hot drinks?
Ugh. So much misinformation. Of course Mormons can drink hot drinks. They’re not supposed to drink caffeine. So, caffeine-free soda is okay. De-caf coffee is fine as is herbal tea.
No, you appear to have some misinformation.
The original word that Joseph Smith received from God was actually that Mormons were forbidden from "hot drinks" (that is the official phrase that was used--"hot drinks"). Over time, people interpreted this as coffee and tea.
Some Mormons did eventually chose to extend this to other caffeinated beverages, but many never did.
The official, explicit declaration from the church is that caffeinated soda is okay.
https://www.npr.org/2016/01/03/461843938/can-mormons-drink-coca-cola
Cheers!
I know a lot of young Mormons and this is correct. The cold beverage/hot beverage distinction is what is taught to young Mormons. Many do drink caffeinated coke and pepsi, but they will generally not touch coffee, even if the coffee is decaf.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 15:03
Subject: Re:I want to be Mormon
Anonymous wrote:My Mormon friend says they're nicest to non-Mormons but don't care to help out fellow Mormons.
The church used to lease an apartment in a building next door to my house for their missionaries. They had a habit of using the dumpster for a different small apartment house for their trash until the owner there padlocked the dumpster. He and his handyman were perusing the dumpster one evening, found a lot of pizza boxes plus letters from the Mormon who was overseeing their mission work, advice about what kind of ties to wear (not too loud or garish), how to talk to people, etc. They would stop by sometimes when we were outside around our fire pit and visit. They didn't push conversion when I told them I was UU. We discussed sci fi a lot--a lot of sci fi writers are Mormons. Which makes sense given their goofy theology. If I were going to be a Mormon it would probably be BECAUSE of the goofy theology.
Also they used to do PSA ads about kindness and families and stuff that I thought were very lovely and well done.
+1 on those PSAs. Especially the Christmas ones.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 15:01
Subject: I want to be Mormon
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Same and we lived there for three years. The nicest people I have been met. I want my kids raised like them too, except I drink coffee and coke though.
You can drink coke, but not coffee or tea. It's hot drinks that are the problem.
Mormons can’t drink hot drinks?
Ugh. So much misinformation. Of course Mormons can drink hot drinks. They’re not supposed to drink caffeine. So, caffeine-free soda is okay. De-caf coffee is fine as is herbal tea.
No, you appear to have some misinformation.
The original word that Joseph Smith received from God was actually that Mormons were forbidden from "hot drinks" (that is the official phrase that was used--"hot drinks"). Over time, people interpreted this as coffee and tea.
Some Mormons did eventually chose to extend this to other caffeinated beverages, but many never did.
The official, explicit declaration from the church is that caffeinated soda is okay.
https://www.npr.org/2016/01/03/461843938/can-mormons-drink-coca-cola
Cheers!
Anonymous
09/01/2020 15:00
Subject: I want to be Mormon
Anonymous wrote:I grew up non-Mormon in Utah. It was..rough, though I guess kids will seize on any difference, and that was mine. After I moved, the Mormons I’ve met outside Utah have mostly met your definition. Things in Utah feel way more icky and cultish.
I have heard there are big cultural differences between Utah/western Mormons and those from the coasts.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 14:57
Subject: I want to be Mormon
with Utah decriminalizing polygamy, you can have sister wives too
Anonymous
09/01/2020 14:55
Subject: I want to be Mormon
Anonymous wrote:To me it’s Quakers that always seem to have their stuff together, have wonderful families, and come across as entirely genuine.
Richard Nixon was a Quaker.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 14:54
Subject: Re:I want to be Mormon
My Mormon friend says they're nicest to non-Mormons but don't care to help out fellow Mormons.
The church used to lease an apartment in a building next door to my house for their missionaries. They had a habit of using the dumpster for a different small apartment house for their trash until the owner there padlocked the dumpster. He and his handyman were perusing the dumpster one evening, found a lot of pizza boxes plus letters from the Mormon who was overseeing their mission work, advice about what kind of ties to wear (not too loud or garish), how to talk to people, etc. They would stop by sometimes when we were outside around our fire pit and visit. They didn't push conversion when I told them I was UU. We discussed sci fi a lot--a lot of sci fi writers are Mormons. Which makes sense given their goofy theology. If I were going to be a Mormon it would probably be BECAUSE of the goofy theology.
Also they used to do PSA ads about kindness and families and stuff that I thought were very lovely and well done.
The church used to lease an apartment in a building next door to my house for their missionaries. They had a habit of using the dumpster for a different small apartment house for their trash until the owner there padlocked the dumpster. He and his handyman were perusing the dumpster one evening, found a lot of pizza boxes plus letters from the Mormon who was overseeing their mission work, advice about what kind of ties to wear (not too loud or garish), how to talk to people, etc. They would stop by sometimes when we were outside around our fire pit and visit. They didn't push conversion when I told them I was UU. We discussed sci fi a lot--a lot of sci fi writers are Mormons. Which makes sense given their goofy theology. If I were going to be a Mormon it would probably be BECAUSE of the goofy theology.
Also they used to do PSA ads about kindness and families and stuff that I thought were very lovely and well done.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 14:50
Subject: I want to be Mormon
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Same and we lived there for three years. The nicest people I have been met. I want my kids raised like them too, except I drink coffee and coke though.
You can drink coke, but not coffee or tea. It's hot drinks that are the problem.
Mormons can’t drink hot drinks?
Ugh. So much misinformation. Of course Mormons can drink hot drinks. They’re not supposed to drink caffeine. So, caffeine-free soda is okay. De-caf coffee is fine as is herbal tea.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 14:47
Subject: I want to be Mormon
You can follow all of those things without conversion. There are a lot of Mormons in this area, and I know plenty. You can get together for game night and have social gatherings (when w especially those things again) and I have never once been asked about conversion. If Mormon missionary kids showed up at my door, I would invite them in and feed them dinner.
But the stories related to Mormonism are some weird things. There are problems with Mormons (kids in particular) who don’t want to live their lives by the nice Mormon rules. I would say it’s a wonderful choice community, but is really hard on those members who want to make different choices.
There’s nothing wrong with following certain values that come from other groups to be the best person you could be. You don’t have to always go all in.
But the stories related to Mormonism are some weird things. There are problems with Mormons (kids in particular) who don’t want to live their lives by the nice Mormon rules. I would say it’s a wonderful choice community, but is really hard on those members who want to make different choices.
There’s nothing wrong with following certain values that come from other groups to be the best person you could be. You don’t have to always go all in.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 14:40
Subject: I want to be Mormon
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s a cult. I mean that literally. They’re nice, but it’s a cult.
THIS.
Nice but not really. Read more about what they do, the super weird secrecy, how sex is shamed and it's always the woman's fault. It's not a nice thing at all. It's a cult that will guilt and shame you into submission.
NP with questions for the Mormons on this thread (or former Mormons). I have read that Utah has one of the highest rates of plastic surgery and rates of depression medications among women. Do you find this to be true? If so, from an insider perspective, why do you think that is? (Outsiders will have their own theories.)
Anonymous
09/01/2020 14:40
Subject: I want to be Mormon
Anonymous wrote:Except I don’t believe in any of the Mormon beliefs. I am pretty liberal, go back and forth on the existence of God. But gosh, every single Mormon I know is so nice. Good looking. Eats healthy. I hate drinking and smoking and I’m kind of a prude and I love simple lives that center around family. LOVE the Mormon emphasis on family and just the general wholesome and “clean” vibe they give off. But I definitely can’t become Mormon bc I don’t believe in the actual religion part of it, haha. I wish there were like...Mormonism for non Mormons.
I know this probably doesn’t make sense. Does anyone else feel like this?
The word you're looking for is "Canadian."
Anonymous
09/01/2020 14:39
Subject: I want to be Mormon
It's hard to think of a more achievable goal. They're always open to new members, even long-dead Holocaust victims.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 14:38
Subject: I want to be Mormon
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They all seem rich too. Or at least affluent (upper middle class +).
They all help one another move up. There is an emphasis on education and being a provider (for the men, the women just stay home and get pregnant and uphold the "perfect family" image).
And BYU is a pretty decent school as well.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 14:37
Subject: I want to be Mormon
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Same and we lived there for three years. The nicest people I have been met. I want my kids raised like them too, except I drink coffee and coke though.
You can drink coke, but not coffee or tea. It's hot drinks that are the problem.
Mormons can’t drink hot drinks?
Anonymous
09/01/2020 14:32
Subject: I want to be Mormon
Yes! I almost went to grad school in Utah for this precise reason.