Anonymous
09/02/2020 12:24
Subject: College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Off campus better for Covid times. Less virus spread and she can stay there when they close the dorms down for Covid. Or if they quarantine dorms she won’t be trapped.
Are you utterly oblivious to the term "community spread"? Off campus students bring the virus into the community and the community spreads it to off-campus students.
Best scenario is a college where nearly all students live on campus, there is frequent asymptomatic testing, and the college prohibits students from leaving campus all semester (and enforces that prohibition with suspensions or expulsions for students caught violating it). This is what my DC's college is doing. But only small and self-contained colleges without a culture of off-campus living (and off-campus partying and barhopping) can attempt that level of isolating.
Before some misery-guts leaps in to say "how awful"--no, it's not. DC and friends know that staying at college depends on all of them masking etc. seriously. They are socializing plenty but following the rules. Organizations etc. meet over Zoom or outdoors masked. No student wants to be the one who had the party that ends up getting the college closed down due to a virus cluster. They prefer being there to going home so they are trying (most of them) to earn their campus life by acting responsibly. I think all this is infinitely harder at universities with big student populations and many or most students living off campus.
Ths is thinking, colleges are not super spreaders? It is the incoming students that are brining it? Are you imagining a college that is a prison? Prohibits students from leavning campus? What like a concentration camp?
Don’t dare compare it to a concentration camp. People didn’t CHOOSE to go to concentration camps. If you don’t like the restrictions take daddy’s tuition money and go home ✌️
Anonymous
09/02/2020 12:22
Subject: College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
Anonymous wrote:What is UMW?
Did you mean UWM?
U Of Mary Washington
Anonymous
09/02/2020 12:18
Subject: College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
What is UMW?
Did you mean UWM?
Did you mean UWM?
Anonymous
09/02/2020 09:24
Subject: Re:College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
Anonymous wrote:Is UMW testing students before they move in? That was JMU's problem - ZERO TESTING was required from any student before they came back to campus. If UMW requires a negative test, then they've got a chance to keep things under control. Otherwise it's going to end up like JMU.
I thought most schools did mail-in testing at the very least, even if they couldn’t afford asymptomatic or move in testing when the kids are at the college.
Anonymous
09/02/2020 09:18
Subject: Re:College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
Is UMW testing students before they move in? That was JMU's problem - ZERO TESTING was required from any student before they came back to campus. If UMW requires a negative test, then they've got a chance to keep things under control. Otherwise it's going to end up like JMU.
Anonymous
09/02/2020 08:38
Subject: College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Off campus better for Covid times. Less virus spread and she can stay there when they close the dorms down for Covid. Or if they quarantine dorms she won’t be trapped.
Are you utterly oblivious to the term "community spread"? Off campus students bring the virus into the community and the community spreads it to off-campus students.
Best scenario is a college where nearly all students live on campus, there is frequent asymptomatic testing, and the college prohibits students from leaving campus all semester (and enforces that prohibition with suspensions or expulsions for students caught violating it). This is what my DC's college is doing. But only small and self-contained colleges without a culture of off-campus living (and off-campus partying and barhopping) can attempt that level of isolating.
Before some misery-guts leaps in to say "how awful"--no, it's not. DC and friends know that staying at college depends on all of them masking etc. seriously. They are socializing plenty but following the rules. Organizations etc. meet over Zoom or outdoors masked. No student wants to be the one who had the party that ends up getting the college closed down due to a virus cluster. They prefer being there to going home so they are trying (most of them) to earn their campus life by acting responsibly. I think all this is infinitely harder at universities with big student populations and many or most students living off campus.
Ths is thinking, colleges are not super spreaders? It is the incoming students that are brining it? Are you imagining a college that is a prison? Prohibits students from leavning campus? What like a concentration camp?
Anonymous
09/02/2020 01:00
Subject: College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
Anonymous wrote:Off campus better for Covid times. Less virus spread and she can stay there when they close the dorms down for Covid. Or if they quarantine dorms she won’t be trapped.
Are you utterly oblivious to the term "community spread"? Off campus students bring the virus into the community and the community spreads it to off-campus students.
Best scenario is a college where nearly all students live on campus, there is frequent asymptomatic testing, and the college prohibits students from leaving campus all semester (and enforces that prohibition with suspensions or expulsions for students caught violating it). This is what my DC's college is doing. But only small and self-contained colleges without a culture of off-campus living (and off-campus partying and barhopping) can attempt that level of isolating.
Before some misery-guts leaps in to say "how awful"--no, it's not. DC and friends know that staying at college depends on all of them masking etc. seriously. They are socializing plenty but following the rules. Organizations etc. meet over Zoom or outdoors masked. No student wants to be the one who had the party that ends up getting the college closed down due to a virus cluster. They prefer being there to going home so they are trying (most of them) to earn their campus life by acting responsibly. I think all this is infinitely harder at universities with big student populations and many or most students living off campus.
Anonymous
09/02/2020 00:50
Subject: College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
Anonymous wrote:I thought for most schools singles were a given.
Do you mean now, because of the pandemic? Or did you think that previously?
Doubles and triples/suites were common pre-pandemic. And though most colleges worked to create as many singles as possible to reduce students' exposures to each other this fall, it is not possible to offer 100 percent singles at many places. Some colleges are able to do all singles by having only freshmen on campus, or only freshmen and sophomores, or only freshmen and seniors , etc. There are several combinations along those lines, and they enable an all-singles campus. But many schools can't promise that . Our DC's small college carved as many singles as it could out of its dorms but still couldn't accommodate every student with a single; the college was open for all to return in person if they chose so there wasn't the "freshmen only" etc. kind of deal that makes singles easy to guarantee.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 23:02
Subject: College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:honestly...is it too late to defer?
I wouldn’t recommend starting college in the middle of this shtshw.
It's not all a shitshow. Many colleges are moving forward just fine. Deferring for my kid would be smoking pot and playing video games in the basement. Hard pass.
Exactly.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 22:59
Subject: College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
Off campus better for Covid times. Less virus spread and she can stay there when they close the dorms down for Covid. Or if they quarantine dorms she won’t be trapped.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 22:01
Subject: College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
Anonymous wrote:Don't move off campus.
This. I’d never allow it. Mostly for the added costs plus the complete lack of a decent reason.
There will be others in the dorm.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 21:50
Subject: College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
I thought for most schools singles were a given.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 21:34
Subject: Re:College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
UMW just announced that move-in will happen starting Sept 10. Woo!
I have a Freshman whose roommate decided to stay online.
So far no one else has been assigned to her room so she may end up with a single.
I have a Freshman whose roommate decided to stay online.
So far no one else has been assigned to her room so she may end up with a single.
Anonymous
09/01/2020 20:40
Subject: College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
We considered keeping my DD home for fall and applying for dorm space for spring, but housing at her school is tight, so we knew we couldn't count on it. So we thought about having her get an apartment for spring. But in the end, the thought of being in an apt. building with mostly upperclassment, without the rules of the dorms, and the safety of the dorms, we decided against it.
To me, there is a hierarchy in moving away - with dorm living being a good first step before apartment living. In addition, getting a lease plus utilities was going to be more expensive, so we just opted for the dorm, knowing that she could get sent home early in the fall but will hopefully have a normal experience in the spring.
Team Dorm
To me, there is a hierarchy in moving away - with dorm living being a good first step before apartment living. In addition, getting a lease plus utilities was going to be more expensive, so we just opted for the dorm, knowing that she could get sent home early in the fall but will hopefully have a normal experience in the spring.
Team Dorm
Anonymous
09/01/2020 20:22
Subject: Re:College Freshman Moving Off-Campus Trend!! DD doesn't know what to do....and neither do I...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m letting (helping) my son get an apartment. I’m fine with him not coming home for breaks other than holiday visits. They are adults. He’s going to get a job and make his own decisions.
I get that...and if my DD was a sophmore or older I'd say sure. But she is 18 and I don't mean this to sound sexist but an 18 year old young "lady" being on her own in apartment complex that may or may not be in safe areas.....I haven't even broached this with my DH, but I'm fairly certain what he'll say.
If you have other children, I'd suggest you prepare them better for leaving the nest. Because this is absurd.
Rape is a thing, for women coming home late at night.
All the preparation in the world does not change that reality, sadly.
Indeed. Nice victim blaming from a, no doubt, a woman pp above!
Oh stop. It’s a reality you have to prepare for. -female NP
Yes, it is hard. For you are trying to raise independand women that are not afraid of men and to speak their mind. But, we live in the world where pu**y grabbing is cute! and women are drugged on campus, and in bars and raped. Most parents try to teach their dds and sons too how to stay safe, every possible scenario, and unless you have a teen or a younger adult, please shut up. Predators on every corner. Bars that let underage students in, in CP, and serve them alcohol, all of them do! Funny, DS could not buy a drink there, DD just gets a stamp and drinks appear. She insists on paying, does not take anything from anyone, yet, things are slipped in drinks all the time. Shoulc all the young women stay at home to avoid rape? Cause that is what it really takes!