Anonymous
08/28/2020 07:35
Subject: Pre season scrimmages
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i dread what a real season will look like with your clowns arguing over meaning less scrimmages. it is youth soccer with kids who in a few months won't remember a score of a single game but you all remember them all. sort of creepy.
This discussion isn't about a game, if you hadn't noticed.
the fact that adults talk this much about youth soccer............yeah creepy.
Yet, here you are...
Youth
Creepy has become just another term that people throw around when they don’t have anything useful to observe or offer. It is a lite version of accusing somebody of holding offensive views - offensive because you don’t like them for reasons you can either not understand or articulate. Cut the nonsense and get out into the world a little more. If you don’t like it, explain why it’s stupid to obsess about preseason scrimmages. And all of you are either fools or rec parents if you think your kids don’t remember or care about results. Most top travel players do beginning U9. But who the hell should take scrimmages seriously.
I have 2 kids, 1 div 1 player and 1 may or may not up to them. I can tell you for a fact they do not recall their scores or their place in the standings, it was about improving each day.
Your kids will end up being NARPs if you keep up with this and they will burn out.
Maybe they headed the ball too many times. Most kids, especially boys, remember scores of big games from their youth. Tourney finals, state cup finals, high school playoffs, etc. I am sure your kids do too, they just won’t admit it to you cuz you’d make fun of them, cuz you’re that parent.
Scores of big games, yes. Scores of scrimmages, no.
Anonymous
08/27/2020 23:49
Subject: Pre season scrimmages
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i dread what a real season will look like with your clowns arguing over meaning less scrimmages. it is youth soccer with kids who in a few months won't remember a score of a single game but you all remember them all. sort of creepy.
This discussion isn't about a game, if you hadn't noticed.
the fact that adults talk this much about youth soccer............yeah creepy.
Yet, here you are...
Youth
Creepy has become just another term that people throw around when they don’t have anything useful to observe or offer. It is a lite version of accusing somebody of holding offensive views - offensive because you don’t like them for reasons you can either not understand or articulate. Cut the nonsense and get out into the world a little more. If you don’t like it, explain why it’s stupid to obsess about preseason scrimmages. And all of you are either fools or rec parents if you think your kids don’t remember or care about results. Most top travel players do beginning U9. But who the hell should take scrimmages seriously.
I have 2 kids, 1 div 1 player and 1 may or may not up to them. I can tell you for a fact they do not recall their scores or their place in the standings, it was about improving each day.
Your kids will end up being NARPs if you keep up with this and they will burn out.
Maybe they headed the ball too many times. Most kids, especially boys, remember scores of big games from their youth. Tourney finals, state cup finals, high school playoffs, etc. I am sure your kids do too, they just won’t admit it to you cuz you’d make fun of them, cuz you’re that parent.
Anonymous
08/27/2020 15:24
Subject: Re:Pre season scrimmages
Anonymous wrote:If the club is honest about development being the priority. There would truly continuously mix kids from the teams in the age group player pool for games throughout the yr not only playing with better players as well as against better competition. The handful of players at the top of each age group should be mixed in to sometimes play up a yr. Thats true development. Instead almost all clubs separate teams at U9 into A,B,C teams. Thats where 90% of kids are stuck for years. The A teams gets almost all of the attention in training.
No club would that as they would face a revolt of top team parents.
Anonymous
08/27/2020 10:34
Subject: Re:Pre season scrimmages
If the club is honest about development being the priority. There would truly continuously mix kids from the teams in the age group player pool for games throughout the yr not only playing with better players as well as against better competition. The handful of players at the top of each age group should be mixed in to sometimes play up a yr. Thats true development. Instead almost all clubs separate teams at U9 into A,B,C teams. Thats where 90% of kids are stuck for years. The A teams gets almost all of the attention in training.
Anonymous
08/27/2020 10:15
Subject: Pre season scrimmages
Anonymous wrote:^^Yeah, my DC plays in the high level leagues and is being recruited by all divisions.
My DC doesn't remember games, scores, standing and quite frankly, the kids don't talk soccer much in their chatting. They are normal teenagers that talk teenagers stuff. They just happen to be very good at soccer and continue to play.
As for the development discussion, kids develop at wildly different speeds. Some kids who are dominant at the younger ages don't continue at that pace...they peak earlier. Some peak later, some continue to improve. That is why coaches should spread time among the players at U12 or so and below and worry less about winning and more about devleopment.[/quote]
But they do not.
Anonymous
08/27/2020 10:04
Subject: Pre season scrimmages
Anonymous wrote:^^Yeah, my DC plays in the high level leagues and is being recruited by all divisions.
My DC doesn't remember games, scores, standing and quite frankly, the kids don't talk soccer much in their chatting. They are normal teenagers that talk teenagers stuff. They just happen to be very good at soccer and continue to play.
As for the development discussion, kids develop at wildly different speeds. Some kids who are dominant at the younger ages don't continue at that pace...they peak earlier. Some peak later, some continue to improve. That is why coaches should spread time among the players at U12 or so and below and worry less about winning and more about devleopment.
So true.
I saw the little dynamo player that has been playing up for as long as I can remember at my son's U13 practice last night. He is fat and out of shape and no longer the mega super start he was when he came to the club at age 8. It's a disgrace. He should no longer be playing up, much less be on the first team. I think the new Coach finally sees it and did not play him as much the first few scrimmages and of course the parents and kid are having a sh*t fit.
Development is very tricky. I have a U16 that was always overlooked but persevered (had to move around to find places willing to invest in him as a player) and now is a top player on one of the top teams. His 7-inch growth spurt over the past year also helped.
Anonymous
08/27/2020 09:58
Subject: Pre season scrimmages
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^Yeah, my DC plays in the high level leagues and is being recruited by all divisions.
My DC doesn't remember games, scores, standing and quite frankly, the kids don't talk soccer much in their chatting. They are normal teenagers that talk teenagers stuff. They just happen to be very good at soccer and continue to play.
As for the development discussion, kids develop at wildly different speeds. Some kids who are dominant at the younger ages don't continue at that pace...they peak earlier. Some peak later, some continue to improve. That is why coaches should spread time among the players at U12 or so and below and worry less about winning and more about devleopment.
Great. Happy for both of you. Not my experience growing up or with my kid. I really tell my kid to care less about all of this. Results are ridiculously irrelevant even at older ages. Hopefully he and teammates will realize this as they get older. But a lot of people don't, regardless of your collective experiences.
You stated exactly what I'm saying. None of it matters, results, standing, etc.
Anonymous
08/27/2020 09:56
Subject: Pre season scrimmages
Anonymous wrote:^^Yeah, my DC plays in the high level leagues and is being recruited by all divisions.
My DC doesn't remember games, scores, standing and quite frankly, the kids don't talk soccer much in their chatting. They are normal teenagers that talk teenagers stuff. They just happen to be very good at soccer and continue to play.
As for the development discussion, kids develop at wildly different speeds. Some kids who are dominant at the younger ages don't continue at that pace...they peak earlier. Some peak later, some continue to improve. That is why coaches should spread time among the players at U12 or so and below and worry less about winning and more about devleopment.
Great. Happy for both of you. Not my experience growing up or with my kid. I really tell my kid to care less about all of this. Results are ridiculously irrelevant even at older ages. Hopefully he and teammates will realize this as they get older. But a lot of people don't, regardless of your collective experiences.
Anonymous
08/27/2020 09:46
Subject: Pre season scrimmages
^^Yeah, my DC plays in the high level leagues and is being recruited by all divisions.
My DC doesn't remember games, scores, standing and quite frankly, the kids don't talk soccer much in their chatting. They are normal teenagers that talk teenagers stuff. They just happen to be very good at soccer and continue to play.
As for the development discussion, kids develop at wildly different speeds. Some kids who are dominant at the younger ages don't continue at that pace...they peak earlier. Some peak later, some continue to improve. That is why coaches should spread time among the players at U12 or so and below and worry less about winning and more about devleopment.
My DC doesn't remember games, scores, standing and quite frankly, the kids don't talk soccer much in their chatting. They are normal teenagers that talk teenagers stuff. They just happen to be very good at soccer and continue to play.
As for the development discussion, kids develop at wildly different speeds. Some kids who are dominant at the younger ages don't continue at that pace...they peak earlier. Some peak later, some continue to improve. That is why coaches should spread time among the players at U12 or so and below and worry less about winning and more about devleopment.