I think you're missing the key thing about parenting threats - you need to be willing to follow through. If your kid gets arrested and charged with identity theft, you're really not going to pay for a lawyer and instead let him sink or swim with a public defender?!?

I'd ground him or otherwise take away privileges, but that's one "natural consequence" that I would not be cool with.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, how do you even get a fake ID? I've wanted to know since I was 15, and now I'm 46.

Back in the 90s in the NY, the coating was different. We changed the date with oil pencils then covered in hair spray. It was a form of art!

In college in the 90s, we got college IDs where the DOB was just printed on a piece of plastic. Super-easy to scratch off. So my friend with a 11/1/____ birthday made his a 1/1/___ birthday just by scratching off the 1. Others changed theirs by making 8s into 3s, 9s to 8s or 3s, or changing other numbers.

Now a flimsy college ID that had no security features on it whatsoever would probably not be enough to buy beer or get into a club, but it was then!

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Anonymous wrote:No, but many of his friends do. None of them seem like the "type." A lot of smug parents who judge others on DCUM have no clue what their perfect kids are up to.

fwiw, I don't think they had them while still in HS.

A typical "not my kid" response. If his friends have it, your son has it too.

Not really. It's not like they are going to bars. They are buying beer at gas stations.

If its a group of 5-6 friends, then only 1-2 need it.

I didn't get one until I was 19 in college and some of my friends turned 21, and I wanted to go to the bars with them.

But in HS, I didn't have one because some of my friends I did. And I would give them money, and they would buy the beer.

But you can be certain that if his friends have fake IDs, your DS is definitely getting blotto on the weekends

DS laughed at me when I suggested that someone would need a fake ID to buy alcohol or nicotine products in a college town. There are always a couple of places that don't care who buys what. I think one is needed to acquire legal weed in DC.

He doesn't have one as far as I know (he shares a lot), - he'll be 20 later this year and his friends are starting to turn 21. I'm sure there is no shortage of beer in the apartment.

We’ve talked openly about this. DD is 19. She doesn’t have one (And she looks like she’s about 15 so that makes sense)but a lot of her friends do, and his others have mentioned it not just the “bad kids” that get them. In fact I have my old fake made for me in a college dorm computer in 1989 still tucked away I don’t think I ever really used it just made me feel very grown-up to have it.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, how do you even get a fake ID? I've wanted to know since I was 15, and now I'm 46.

My sister ordered hers online. It shipped from China.

The Chinese has perfected them. They even scan properly! Both my college kids have them.

Mine doesn't, or at least I think so, but they're so easy to get these days, so I won't be surprised if he has one.

Maryland Transportation Code, Section 16-301, that’s only traffic, there are other issues too

https://www.abc.virginia.gov/enforcement/virginia-codes-and-regulations/fake-id-facts


https://code.dccouncil.us/dc/council/code/sections/25-1002.html

FWIW, California sets it up as either a misdemeanor with up to a year in jail or a felony with several years.

Anonymous wrote:I scratched off the "1" on my license when I was in college so my real ID showed me as being 21 10 months earlier (January bday instead of November). I wonder how effective fake IDs are these days with so many places set up with scanners that instantly verify IDs against DMV databases. I suppose if you borrowed a siblings ID it would work since that is still an actual ID.

But that sets up the younger sibling for identity theft charges if caught.

I scratched off the "1" on my license when I was in college so my real ID showed me as being 21 10 months earlier (January bday instead of November). I wonder how effective fake IDs are these days with so many places set up with scanners that instantly verify IDs against DMV databases. I suppose if you borrowed a siblings ID it would work since that is still an actual ID.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s an interview on I think Stephen Colbert with BJ Novak (actor) where he talks about the fake ID he got when he was 14 through identity theft and one of his classmates, who another commenter googled, confirmed it in the YouTube comments. He grew up in a wealthy suburb and went to Harvard (before he was famous), so I’m sure your little perfect honors student children are doing the same thing.

Times have changed.

Please elaborate.