Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 14:06     Subject: Re:What do people think of Einstein?
Something that Einstein offers that most other DCC schools don't is the ability to take Pre-IB English 9 and 10. Honors English is really not an advanced class, and students who'd benefit from a more challenging English class have better options all four years at Einstein. For 11th and 12th, some of the Pre-IB students continue in IB classes, while others take AP Lang and Lit.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 13:57     Subject: Re:What do people think of Einstein?
I have two children who went there and had a great experience. It is diverse, which freaks some people out, but the people who actually go there tend to love it.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 12:53     Subject: What do people think of Einstein?
Anonymous wrote:Einstein is a fine school. It has a peer cohort for high-achieving students. It's underrated. The area may be in some flux because of the extreme overcrowding there and at WJ. The addition of Woodward in 2025 will likely solve that.


Yes. This will be the biggest factor for Einstein, as well as Wheaton, in a few years, how the new boundaries for Woodward are drawn. Northwood and Kennedy will also get additions, so new boundaries there will also be needed because Blair is so overcrowded too.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 12:38     Subject: Re:What do people think of Einstein?
Test scores in this area = race/class.

So anyone saying high test scores = good school is really saying white/rich students = good school. Hence the person who quoted Whitman above.

The flip side of this is that if you have an upper middle class kid with educated parents, they do well. There are lots of us at Einstein. If you’re one of us, you will like it. If you are a low-income family, I honestly have no idea whether you’d be better off at a wealthier school because I don’t have that experience.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 12:29     Subject: What do people think of Einstein?
Anonymous wrote:Please refer to the Maryland State Department of Education Report Card:

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0789/0

This gives you objective data to review.


Thank you. That is simply terrible. In comparison here is Whitman.

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0427/0

Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 12:22     Subject: What do people think of Einstein?
Anonymous wrote:Threads on DCUM on Einstein always reach this point (and then go on):

- we're a doctor/lawyer family who loves Einstein and our small house
- Einstein is full of gangs and your house is terrible


Yes, you are right.

I would guess that 80%+ of Einstein families have an HHI of less than $250,000. I have 2 there, and of course it is hard to know exactly what people earn, but, I think there are very few at $250,000+
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 12:19     Subject: What do people think of Einstein?
Please refer to the Maryland State Department of Education Report Card:

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0789/0

This gives you objective data to review.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 11:34     Subject: What do people think of Einstein?
Einstein is a fine school. It has a peer cohort for high-achieving students. It's underrated. The area may be in some flux because of the extreme overcrowding there and at WJ. The addition of Woodward in 2025 will likely solve that.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 10:57     Subject: What do people think of Einstein?
Anonymous wrote:Threads on DCUM on Einstein always reach this point (and then go on):

- we're a doctor/lawyer family who loves Einstein and our small house
- Einstein is full of gangs and your house is terrible


Yup. This pretty much sums it up. But I'd also add "low test scores don't prove anything"
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 10:27     Subject: Re:What do people think of Einstein?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one said there are not expensive house is zoned for Einstein. What was said that they are among the cheapest in an expensive area. This is typically measured by price per sqft to keep it comparable. For example what is meant for the daft boosters is a 1300 sqft house zoned to Einstein near the mall in Wheaton would be 400k ish, a block away that same house zoned to WJ would be 700k and that same house a few streets down zoned for BCC would be 900k.

The very nice 800k+ houses in woodside that are zoned to Einstein (but mostly go to private mind you) are expensive due to size and urban proximity. If they were zoned to BCC / rosemary hills as are the tiny and often more expensive homes a few blocks over off of East West Hw, they would be at least 50% more expensive.

Say what you want but price is the ultimate example of supply and demand. You bring up anecdotal we like smaller houses BS, but the market is simple. It doesn’t matter what you like. If they were in stronger demand they wouldn’t be sitting there cheaply for you to pick up and enjoy your cheap small house. They are there because Einstein has one of the worst reputations in Montgomery County save maybe Kennedy. Is that fair? Maybe not but you look like a fool pretending it isn’t true


Woodside Park resident here. Not true.


Sure you are


Why are you so troubled by the notion that your demographic peers make choices that are different from yours and do well? What’s up with that?
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 10:25     Subject: What do people think of Einstein?
Anonymous wrote:Threads on DCUM on Einstein always reach this point (and then go on):

- we're a doctor/lawyer family who loves Einstein and our small house
- Einstein is full of gangs and your house is terrible


Our house is actually quite large, a prewar colonial with a third floor and finished walkout basement. But whatever.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 10:19     Subject: Re:What do people think of Einstein?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one said there are not expensive house is zoned for Einstein. What was said that they are among the cheapest in an expensive area. This is typically measured by price per sqft to keep it comparable. For example what is meant for the daft boosters is a 1300 sqft house zoned to Einstein near the mall in Wheaton would be 400k ish, a block away that same house zoned to WJ would be 700k and that same house a few streets down zoned for BCC would be 900k.

The very nice 800k+ houses in woodside that are zoned to Einstein (but mostly go to private mind you) are expensive due to size and urban proximity. If they were zoned to BCC / rosemary hills as are the tiny and often more expensive homes a few blocks over off of East West Hw, they would be at least 50% more expensive.

Say what you want but price is the ultimate example of supply and demand. You bring up anecdotal we like smaller houses BS, but the market is simple. It doesn’t matter what you like. If they were in stronger demand they wouldn’t be sitting there cheaply for you to pick up and enjoy your cheap small house. They are there because Einstein has one of the worst reputations in Montgomery County save maybe Kennedy. Is that fair? Maybe not but you look like a fool pretending it isn’t true


Woodside Park resident here. Not true.


Sure you are
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 10:12     Subject: What do people think of Einstein?
Threads on DCUM on Einstein always reach this point (and then go on):

- we're a doctor/lawyer family who loves Einstein and our small house
- Einstein is full of gangs and your house is terrible
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 09:56     Subject: Re:What do people think of Einstein?
Anonymous wrote:No one said there are not expensive house is zoned for Einstein. What was said that they are among the cheapest in an expensive area. This is typically measured by price per sqft to keep it comparable. For example what is meant for the daft boosters is a 1300 sqft house zoned to Einstein near the mall in Wheaton would be 400k ish, a block away that same house zoned to WJ would be 700k and that same house a few streets down zoned for BCC would be 900k.

The very nice 800k+ houses in woodside that are zoned to Einstein (but mostly go to private mind you) are expensive due to size and urban proximity. If they were zoned to BCC / rosemary hills as are the tiny and often more expensive homes a few blocks over off of East West Hw, they would be at least 50% more expensive.

Say what you want but price is the ultimate example of supply and demand. You bring up anecdotal we like smaller houses BS, but the market is simple. It doesn’t matter what you like. If they were in stronger demand they wouldn’t be sitting there cheaply for you to pick up and enjoy your cheap small house. They are there because Einstein has one of the worst reputations in Montgomery County save maybe Kennedy. Is that fair? Maybe not but you look like a fool pretending it isn’t true


Woodside Park resident here. Not true.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2020 09:40     Subject: Re:What do people think of Einstein?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You will find the small contingent of middle class families that go there are passionately booster-rific but they aren’t the defining character of the school. They will mention coded TOP classes and what not which is there way of saying avoid the general pop at all cost. As one of the first poster said there is a reason houses zoned for Einstein are amount the cheapest in the DCC. It isn’t because the parents are frugal, it is because most parents don’t want them.


Um, isn't the Woodside area zoned for Einstein? This is a ridiculous assertion. We looked at houses zoned for Wheaton and Kennedy and they were considerably cheaper than the houses zoned for Einstein. We are actually zoned for Northwood, but I chose to send my child to Einstein instead because it has better AP scores (there is MCPS documentation to prove it). Einstein houses cost less than WJ houses. That's it.

Also, my DD took her higher-level Spanish classes with native speaker classmates, as she had gotten fluent enough through some travel abroad. These classes were a treasure for her and not at all full of middle-class white kids. Her chemistry class also had an ESOL section, accompanied by a para. The teacher handled the situation beautifully and my DD again had an opportunity to practice Spanish skills. Life is what you make of it.


We live in Woodside Park and our kids are at Einstein, doing very well. Our oldest graduated two years ago and is at a top 10 college.

We are a lawyer and physician household. There are a lot of families like ours at Einstein.