Anonymous
07/26/2020 15:58
Subject: Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is not once single case in the entire world of covid being transferred passing someone on a sidewalk. No mask.
If you're huddled and staying close to people outside, yes, not a bad idea.
But just a pass of someone? Totally and completely unnecessary.
No one can possibly know if covid was transferred by an umasked person on the sidewalk. Why wouldn’t this highly contagious virus be transmitted with one sneeze outside?
Better safe than sorry. Plus it’s easier for my kids to accept “always” rather than “sometimes”. We are all masked anytime we leave our yard or house.
Of course it can be traced - if one highly infectious person is walking and passing people, surely a couple of people will get infected. They ask where they've been lately, and this would be their commonality. I get that tracing isn't happening often, but if there is not ONE SINGLE CONFIRMED CASE in ANY city, ANY county, ANY state, or ANY country? It's not happening. And all data points to viral load + time being a major, major concern. Someone would have to sneeze directly into your mouth for this to happen. Don't let other people sneeze directly into your mouth.
You can be cautious, and then there's being irrational against all evidence. This is the latter. Clustered and huddled outside? Sure, mask up. An incredibly brief pass? Pretty much impossible.
No, my mother assumes that she got covid from someone she passed outside on her daily walk as she has absolutely zero contact with anyone else for two months. No grocery store, no friends, no doctors - no one. She couldn’t have been infected any other way.
Sorry, I don't believe this. It defies all science. Everyone says I've basically been isolating except for that one time!" There's a lot of dishonesty about many infectious people and how much they've actually not been social distancing.
Disbelieve at your own peril, PP. My mother walked every single day and simply passed other walkers outside. It’s the only place she could have contracted it (and possibly spread it).
Was she living with anyone else who may have been an asymptomatic carrier? Surface transmission is also possible. One epidemiology study in China indicated that the likeliest source of transmission for residents of a building were elevator surfaces (buttons).
No. My mother lives in a small house alone. The doctors ruled out her contracting it from delivered groceries left outside her door or mail.
Uh huh. I’m not buying that the older woman who lives alone and goes on daily walks in her neighborhood never, not once stopped and chatted, had a longer conversation, spoke to literally no one for months on end then suddenly got covid. Your mom’s not telling you the whole story. Maybe she’s having a torrid affair with a neighbor. That’s far more likely than getting covid from a maybe 3 second pass of someone on the sidewalk. I mean come on.
+1. A lot of older people are flat out lying to their children and grandchildren - there has been tons of articles on this. The mom got together with someone, I'm guessing inside, and didn't tell her daughter. Perfectly common.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 15:57
Subject: Re:Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
The guidelines say wear a mask when it's not possible to SD.
When we are outside in a quiet area not around others we don't mask. That is following the guidelines and are completely reasonable.
When we are outside in a quiet area not around others we don't mask. That is following the guidelines and are completely reasonable.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 15:48
Subject: Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
No, we don't wear masks out doors when not around others. We do use trails to walk and bike, and I wear a gaiter type mask and pull it up if we are in a situation where we are near people for more than just a passing moment. But in general, No, no masks when outdoors, just awareness of who is around and how close you are to others.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 15:24
Subject: Re:Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My 4 and 6 year olds wear their masks whenever we’re outside. They don’t like it, of course, but they are proud that they’re “protecting babies and grandmas”.
It’s great training for if they go back to school.
You're 100% nuts.
No, you’re 100% part of the problem. If we had 95% mask compliance we could beat this pandemic by reducing how many people each person with Covid goes on to infect: https://www.google.com/amp/s/medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-widespread-facemask-covid-.amp
People like you are the reason we’re up shit creek and more people are going to die unnecessarily. Hope you’re happy with your choice.
This. It isn't mask wearers who are crazy. It is the selfish idiots who won't wear masks.
If you are outside of your house put on a mask or keep yourself home.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 15:21
Subject: Re:Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My 4 and 6 year olds wear their masks whenever we’re outside. They don’t like it, of course, but they are proud that they’re “protecting babies and grandmas”.
It’s great training for if they go back to school.
You're 100% nuts.
No, you’re 100% part of the problem. If we had 95% mask compliance we could beat this pandemic by reducing how many people each person with Covid goes on to infect: https://www.google.com/amp/s/medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-widespread-facemask-covid-.amp
People like you are the reason we’re up shit creek and more people are going to die unnecessarily. Hope you’re happy with your choice.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 14:06
Subject: Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is not once single case in the entire world of covid being transferred passing someone on a sidewalk. No mask.
If you're huddled and staying close to people outside, yes, not a bad idea.
But just a pass of someone? Totally and completely unnecessary.
You have absolutely no idea that this is true. Things about Covid aren't fact just because we really really want them to be.
Ok so please cite one single confirmed, verified case that covid was spread in a half second pass of someone outside. I'll wait. But I agree with you on the bolded part pf your reply.
NP here. Why cite you a case that you won’t believe? We have no test cases of someone in a clean room for two weeks and then sent out walking on a sidewalk with guards to make sure they don’t stop. The verification you are so insistently and desperately seeking is unethical and simply doesn’t exist.
Why not just wear the fricking mask? Is it really worth all this defense to go without it?
Bingo. It doesn't exist. Not in DC, VA, Maryland, the rest of the US, or the rest of the world.
I'll happily wear a mask indoors, and outside - as soon as there is an indication that the risk is there and confirmed in a moment's pass outdoors. But it's not, because you said it yourself. Zero cases of this kind exist.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 14:02
Subject: Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is not once single case in the entire world of covid being transferred passing someone on a sidewalk. No mask.
If you're huddled and staying close to people outside, yes, not a bad idea.
But just a pass of someone? Totally and completely unnecessary.
You have absolutely no idea that this is true. Things about Covid aren't fact just because we really really want them to be.
Ok so please cite one single confirmed, verified case that covid was spread in a half second pass of someone outside. I'll wait. But I agree with you on the bolded part pf your reply.
NP here. Why cite you a case that you won’t believe? We have no test cases of someone in a clean room for two weeks and then sent out walking on a sidewalk with guards to make sure they don’t stop. The verification you are so insistently and desperately seeking is unethical and simply doesn’t exist.
Why not just wear the fricking mask? Is it really worth all this defense to go without it?
Anonymous
07/26/2020 13:54
Subject: Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is not once single case in the entire world of covid being transferred passing someone on a sidewalk. No mask.
If you're huddled and staying close to people outside, yes, not a bad idea.
But just a pass of someone? Totally and completely unnecessary.
You have absolutely no idea that this is true. Things about Covid aren't fact just because we really really want them to be.
Ok so please cite one single confirmed, verified case that covid was spread in a half second pass of someone outside. I'll wait. But I agree with you on the bolded part pf your reply.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 13:46
Subject: Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
I'm 40 years old. I've walked/run probably 2 thousand miles unmasked since the time of covid began, passing thousands of people. I see the same people at the same time every day, since we're all on the same 6:30am schedule. We're not all asymptomatic, because I still encounter the same people multiple times a week. I'm fine, they're fine, I'll see them again in 2 days walking on the path.
And nobody outside of my household has ever sneezed on me in my entire life.
ALL evidence suggests viral load + time is essential. If it eases your anxiety, then my all means mask up outside. But it's for irrational reasons.
Never been sneezed on by another person in your entire life? You must not be a teacher!!!
Anonymous
07/26/2020 13:23
Subject: Re:Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My 4 and 6 year olds wear their masks whenever we’re outside. They don’t like it, of course, but they are proud that they’re “protecting babies and grandmas”.
It’s great training for if they go back to school.
I like this! Giving the kids a reason beyond their own health. Great way to teach social responsibility and good citizenship!
Great brainwashing.Hope you're saving for that OCD therapy they'll need in 10 years.
Oh, God, stop being a total assh*le for once in your miserable trump-loving life.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 13:22
Subject: Re:Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My 4 and 6 year olds wear their masks whenever we’re outside. They don’t like it, of course, but they are proud that they’re “protecting babies and grandmas”.
It’s great training for if they go back to school.
You're 100% nuts.
NP here. I couldn’t disagree more. Thinking that consideration for our fellow citizens is “nuts” is why the US is leading in covid deaths and not seeing a decline in cases nationwide.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 13:21
Subject: Re:Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My 4 and 6 year olds wear their masks whenever we’re outside. They don’t like it, of course, but they are proud that they’re “protecting babies and grandmas”.
It’s great training for if they go back to school.
I like this! Giving the kids a reason beyond their own health. Great way to teach social responsibility and good citizenship!
Great brainwashing.
Hope you're saving for that OCD therapy they'll need in 10 years.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 13:19
Subject: Re:Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:My 4 and 6 year olds wear their masks whenever we’re outside. They don’t like it, of course, but they are proud that they’re “protecting babies and grandmas”.
It’s great training for if they go back to school.
You're 100% nuts.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 13:04
Subject: Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is not once single case in the entire world of covid being transferred passing someone on a sidewalk. No mask.
If you're huddled and staying close to people outside, yes, not a bad idea.
But just a pass of someone? Totally and completely unnecessary.
No one can possibly know if covid was transferred by an umasked person on the sidewalk. Why wouldn’t this highly contagious virus be transmitted with one sneeze outside?
Better safe than sorry. Plus it’s easier for my kids to accept “always” rather than “sometimes”. We are all masked anytime we leave our yard or house.
Of course it can be traced - if one highly infectious person is walking and passing people, surely a couple of people will get infected. They ask where they've been lately, and this would be their commonality. I get that tracing isn't happening often, but if there is not ONE SINGLE CONFIRMED CASE in ANY city, ANY county, ANY state, or ANY country? It's not happening. And all data points to viral load + time being a major, major concern. Someone would have to sneeze directly into your mouth for this to happen. Don't let other people sneeze directly into your mouth.
You can be cautious, and then there's being irrational against all evidence. This is the latter. Clustered and huddled outside? Sure, mask up. An incredibly brief pass? Pretty much impossible.
No, my mother assumes that she got covid from someone she passed outside on her daily walk as she has absolutely zero contact with anyone else for two months. No grocery store, no friends, no doctors - no one. She couldn’t have been infected any other way.
Sorry, I don't believe this. It defies all science. Everyone says I've basically been isolating except for that one time!" There's a lot of dishonesty about many infectious people and how much they've actually not been social distancing.
Disbelieve at your own peril, PP. My mother walked every single day and simply passed other walkers outside. It’s the only place she could have contracted it (and possibly spread it).
Was she living with anyone else who may have been an asymptomatic carrier? Surface transmission is also possible. One epidemiology study in China indicated that the likeliest source of transmission for residents of a building were elevator surfaces (buttons).
If anything we have had more guidance that surface transmission is not much of a risk versus person to person, so why do you dismiss the person to person transmission out of hand?
The PP said this is "the only place she could have contacted it" which is simply untrue. Yes surface transmission is a less common mode of transmission. So would be passing by someone with no indication of sneezing or coughing at the time. I'm sure mom would have mentioned someone sneezing on her.
Anonymous
07/26/2020 13:02
Subject: Not Wearing Mask Outdoors
Anonymous wrote:Same for us OP. We are not going to wear a mask because we pass someone on the sidewalk.
Same here. We try to move away from the people as we pass but I’m not wearing a mask hiking in 100+ degree heat because I might pass someone on a trail for two seconds.