Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My squeaky-clean cousin had such a hard time with the poly. He ended up failing a couple times and almost gave up on his dream career. I have no idea why- he never did drugs, never even drank alcohol until 21.

The poly detects is you have a conscience.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first thing they will ask is if you did any research in how to pass. Be honest and say you made this post. It’s not a big deal, everyone does some research. But now stop researching it, it’ll only make you nervous

LOL PP! Only an idiot would do that. Polygraphers want you to spill your guts, as that is how they get you to fail. Very few people have failed because their chart looked bad. But LOTS of people have failed because they caved under pressure from the polygrapher.

This is the stupidest thing I’ve read in a while. Are you a Russian troll?

OP should spill his guts because making a vague post on an anonymous forum is not incriminating. Admitting to it will not deny you a clearance. But lying about something this stupid, if it sets you off, will make it seem like you’re lying about serious things.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first thing they will ask is if you did any research in how to pass. Be honest and say you made this post. It’s not a big deal, everyone does some research. But now stop researching it, it’ll only make you nervous

LOL PP! Only an idiot would do that. Polygraphers want you to spill your guts, as that is how they get you to fail. Very few people have failed because their chart looked bad. But LOTS of people have failed because they caved under pressure from the polygrapher.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve never understood the “don’t lie” assertion.

Let’s say you smoked pot a handful of times with only 1-2 people who you know seem equally wholesome as you. Assuming the investigation even uncovers these particular people and talks to them, what if you know there is no way in hell that they’d say you ever smoked pot (or that they do either)?

If you did it with a sibling, for instance, or your spouse or best friend, or even just a friend, and you know none of them is going to admit to smoking with you.

If you don’t understand the principle “don’t lie,” then you shouldn’t have a clearance. Period.

All SSBIs involve “developed sources.” That means they find people you didn’t list as references and who might not be willing to keep your secrets. Think neighbor who filed noise complaints on you, coworker who didn’t like you, college roommate you fought with, and so on. There’s a decent chance one of these people will turn over something that will get you in trouble. If you told the truth, it might be “mitigable.” If you lied, it’s an instant disqualification for any clearance for at least five years, possibly for life (this can be a judgment call for the investigator or committee). Taking the risk is stupid.

You sound like a typical uptight fed. "developed sources" WTF are you talking about? Listen, the whole thing is a game. I know well over a dozen people who lied their ass off on polygraphs and have now been working in fed and local law enforcement for many, many years. You wouldn't know that because you think that you catch everyone. You only catch the idiots who aren't savvy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve never understood the “don’t lie” assertion.

Let’s say you smoked pot a handful of times with only 1-2 people who you know seem equally wholesome as you. Assuming the investigation even uncovers these particular people and talks to them, what if you know there is no way in hell that they’d say you ever smoked pot (or that they do either)?

If you did it with a sibling, for instance, or your spouse or best friend, or even just a friend, and you know none of them is going to admit to smoking with you.

If you don’t understand the principle “don’t lie,” then you shouldn’t have a clearance. Period.

All SSBIs involve “developed sources.” That means they find people you didn’t list as references and who might not be willing to keep your secrets. Think neighbor who filed noise complaints on you, coworker who didn’t like you, college roommate you fought with, and so on. There’s a decent chance one of these people will turn over something that will get you in trouble. If you told the truth, it might be “mitigable.” If you lied, it’s an instant disqualification for any clearance for at least five years, possibly for life (this can be a judgment call for the investigator or committee). Taking the risk is stupid.