Now that UDel and GWU have both announced going online in the Fall do you think UMD will follow suit? I am nervous about ds staying on campus

University of Delaware now on-line.
https://www.wdel.com/news/most-university-of-delaware-students-wont-return-to-campus-fall-semester-to-be-virtual/article_3911bc3e-cc3e-11ea-9590-c31cd99d37e4.html

Based on the recent spike in Indiana and in particular the South Bend area, I was thinking Notre Dame would pull the plug, but it seems to be charging forward. They just released these two videos. You have to admit, ND knows how to brand...even during a pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at university of Delaware this week. Kids taking summer classes were still there even though campus closed.

They have this wonderful Main Street right off campus and kids often have year round leases and jobs. I can only imagine when school starts in person will be hard to fully stop and go to DL and add a lot of value as a lot of kids won’t leave

The "Value" is that schools are not responsible for the students who are living off campus. They do not have to feed them or house them. If schools close campus down, their staff do not need to work and place themselves at risk.

But U of D is going back. Inviting all students and have a remote option.

I know, even roommates. My daughter is a freshman.

Sounds like they have rolled back their plans and now most courses will be online https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2020/07/22/university-delaware-deliver-most-classes-online-fall-semester/5489400002/

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Anonymous wrote:Dickinson is backtracking.
https://www.dickinson.edu/info/20043/about/4030/dickinson_college_updates_on_fall_2020/5

Lack of rapid testing is a key issue.

most certainly.

Add Lafayette to the mix - at least they are getting a tuition break.

Lafayette College will offer all fall semester classes online and the majority of students will stay at home amid the coronavirus pandemic.

The Easton college made the announcement Wednesday morning. It also announced it was reversing this year’s 3.75% increase in tuition, fees and room and board. Instead, there will be a 10% tuition rate reduction for those who study from home.

It's already started happening. Not surprised.

Oh, I heard the rumor about Berkeley yesterday and almost posted it but figured why posted if it’s still a rumor

Add UC Berkeley to that list.

UC-Berkeley, June 17: "It is our intention to conduct limited in-person classes this fall for those students who wish to come to campus.”

July 21: “We have made the difficult decision to begin the fall semester with fully remote instruction.”


https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/07/21/fall-semester-update-student-resources-for-remote-instruction/

The Atlantic:
"Colleges Are Getting Ready to Blame Their Students
As campuses reopen without adequate testing, universities fault young people for a lack of personal responsibility."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/colleges-are-getting-ready-blame-their-students/614410/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Anonymous wrote:Add Grinnell to the list.

https://www.grinnell.edu/messages/important-changes-to-fall-plans

Oh wow. That's sad, but understandable. I feel bad for all of these kids.

Add Grinnell to the list.

https://www.grinnell.edu/messages/important-changes-to-fall-plans

The big rub is what happens in off-campus housing. The universities will NOT be testing or have any liability for the kids who are off campus.

From my experience in DC, we are seeing GW and Georgetown students who are not allowed back on campus desperately trying to rent whole houses so they can do “virtual learning” while shacked up with their friends. We are seeing big upfront offers from their wealthy parents (ie, 12 months of rent paid upfront). But these houses will become COVID hot spots, as kids use the houses to party with their friends. It puts a huge amount of liability on the landlord. Schools like GW & Georgetown can wash their hands of the problem and say “We told them to stay home.”

The off-campus housing scene is going to be the driver of the problems. Kids living on-campus will go off-campus to hang out with other classmen, bringing the virus back to campus.

I predict most school will be 100% online by October 10.

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Most NE schools are going back, not just Mass. I think it is a great idea. Most of these college towns and businesses will go out of business permanently if they don’t. Most classes are still virtual. Strong orders are in place. I much rather the college kids get it while around each other than sitting home, heading out and going back and giving it to Mom and Dad. Grandma, etc.. You are just NOT a going to keep young 20 year olds home bound for another 6 months. We can already see that. They know they aren’t dying. It’s a sad reality.

The New England states in general are doing OK in terms of keeping COVID rates under control. They have small colleges and will do their best, although I think Boston in particular will be a problem as there are just too many students coming from elsewhere, and as you say, students this age will NOT stay secluded on college campuses.

They are going to run into problems with testing though.

I'm not with you about wanting students to get this illness on campus. I think the long term effects are not known. I'd rather my student not get it at all. It's true most young adults don't die from it, but we don't know what other issues it can bring.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at university of Delaware this week. Kids taking summer classes were still there even though campus closed.

They have this wonderful Main Street right off campus and kids often have year round leases and jobs. I can only imagine when school starts in person will be hard to fully stop and go to DL and add a lot of value as a lot of kids won’t leave

The "Value" is that schools are not responsible for the students who are living off campus. They do not have to feed them or house them. If schools close campus down, their staff do not need to work and place themselves at risk.

But U of D is going back. Inviting all students and have a remote option.

I know, even roommates. My daughter is a freshman.