Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“ After all, integrated schools are empirically proven to produce the kind of equality that the country is marching for. For black and brown children, integrated schools lead to higher test scores, increased graduation rates and higher levels of college enrollment. ”
No this again. Black and brown students do better when surrounded by white and asian students. I would like to ask the black SMOB member what his follow whitE and Asian students do to make him a better high school student. Did he do better on his AP English class? Did he pass his Calculus class effortless? Did other two SMOBs help their fellow black and brown students do better in school?
PP, if you're sincerely interested in learning about segregated vs. integrated schools, there's plenty out there on the Internet for you to read.
I read plenty. One study was model in MCPS 30 years ago.
Please answer my question. Do you believe black and brown kids have to be with white and Asian kids to do better academically?
Is there a reason you're opposed to integrating schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0249/0
Here is an example, in Clarksburg High School, the math proficiency rate for Asians is 80.8%, blacks 38.1%, Latinos 37.1%, whites 72.6%. These are students in the same school and taught by the same teachers.
How can this gap be reduced? How can those behind catch up with those ahead, if not by working harder?
Let's say there's a 100-yard race. Runner A gets to start at the starting line. Runner B must start 20 yards behind the starting line. Your take on this situation is that Runner B should work harder on running faster.
That’s life. A lot of Asian immigrants came here with nothing and pulled themselves up. What did they do that the black community by in large isn’t?
Well, two things are
1. Not inherit the continuing legacy of 400 years of systematic personal and institutional racism against Black people.
2. Buy into the Model Minority Myth, which is part of the continuing legacy of systematic personal and institutional racism against Black people (see #1).
Also, generally, my attitude towards systematic injustice isn't "that's life" but rather "that needs to change because it's hurting people" but hey, that's me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is an achievement gap--blacks and Latinos are behind whites and Asians.
How can that gap be closed?
Blacks and Latinos must work harder than whites and Asians.
If whites and Asians study 2 hours a day, blacks and Latinos need to study 3 hours a day.
If whites and Asians study 4 hours a day, blacks and Latinos need to study 6 hours a day.
Until that happens, how can the achievement gap be closed?
Go away.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0249/0
Here is an example, in Clarksburg High School, the math proficiency rate for Asians is 80.8%, blacks 38.1%, Latinos 37.1%, whites 72.6%. These are students in the same school and taught by the same teachers.
How can this gap be reduced? How can those behind catch up with those ahead, if not by working harder?
Let's say there's a 100-yard race. Runner A gets to start at the starting line. Runner B must start 20 yards behind the starting line. Your take on this situation is that Runner B should work harder on running faster.
That’s life. A lot of Asian immigrants came here with nothing and pulled themselves up. What did they do that the black community by in large isn’t?
Well, two things are
1. Not inherit the continuing legacy of 400 years of systematic personal and institutional racism against Black people.
2. Buy into the Model Minority Myth, which is part of the continuing legacy of systematic personal and institutional racism against Black people (see #1).
Also, generally, my attitude towards systematic injustice isn't "that's life" but rather "that needs to change because it's hurting people" but hey, that's me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“ After all, integrated schools are empirically proven to produce the kind of equality that the country is marching for. For black and brown children, integrated schools lead to higher test scores, increased graduation rates and higher levels of college enrollment. ”
No this again. Black and brown students do better when surrounded by white and asian students. I would like to ask the black SMOB member what his follow whitE and Asian students do to make him a better high school student. Did he do better on his AP English class? Did he pass his Calculus class effortless? Did other two SMOBs help their fellow black and brown students do better in school?
PP, if you're sincerely interested in learning about segregated vs. integrated schools, there's plenty out there on the Internet for you to read.
I read plenty. One study was model in MCPS 30 years ago.
Please answer my question. Do you believe black and brown kids have to be with white and Asian kids to do better academically?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“ After all, integrated schools are empirically proven to produce the kind of equality that the country is marching for. For black and brown children, integrated schools lead to higher test scores, increased graduation rates and higher levels of college enrollment. ”
No this again. Black and brown students do better when surrounded by white and asian students. I would like to ask the black SMOB member what his follow whitE and Asian students do to make him a better high school student. Did he do better on his AP English class? Did he pass his Calculus class effortless? Did other two SMOBs help their fellow black and brown students do better in school?
PP, if you're sincerely interested in learning about segregated vs. integrated schools, there's plenty out there on the Internet for you to read.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0249/0
Here is an example, in Clarksburg High School, the math proficiency rate for Asians is 80.8%, blacks 38.1%, Latinos 37.1%, whites 72.6%. These are students in the same school and taught by the same teachers.
How can this gap be reduced? How can those behind catch up with those ahead, if not by working harder?
Let's say there's a 100-yard race. Runner A gets to start at the starting line. Runner B must start 20 yards behind the starting line. Your take on this situation is that Runner B should work harder on running faster.
That’s life. A lot of Asian immigrants came here with nothing and pulled themselves up. What did they do that the black community by in large isn’t?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0249/0
Here is an example, in Clarksburg High School, the math proficiency rate for Asians is 80.8%, blacks 38.1%, Latinos 37.1%, whites 72.6%. These are students in the same school and taught by the same teachers.
How can this gap be reduced? How can those behind catch up with those ahead, if not by working harder?
Let's say there's a 100-yard race. Runner A gets to start at the starting line. Runner B must start 20 yards behind the starting line. Your take on this situation is that Runner B should work harder on running faster.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0249/0
Here is an example, in Clarksburg High School, the math proficiency rate for Asians is 80.8%, blacks 38.1%, Latinos 37.1%, whites 72.6%. These are students in the same school and taught by the same teachers.
How can this gap be reduced? How can those behind catch up with those ahead, if not by working harder?
Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.
Anonymous wrote:Certain zip codes succeeded at preventing construction of rental housing and public transportation. Fix that, and the W schools will magically become more diverse.
And, let’s make each W school a magnet so high performing kids from anywhere in the county can attend.
Easy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is an achievement gap--blacks and Latinos are behind whites and Asians.
How can that gap be closed?
Blacks and Latinos must work harder than whites and Asians.
If whites and Asians study 2 hours a day, blacks and Latinos need to study 3 hours a day.
If whites and Asians study 4 hours a day, blacks and Latinos need to study 6 hours a day.
Until that happens, how can the achievement gap be closed?
Go away.
DP.. why? The ^PP is not wrong. My kid is not athletic, so he needs to work harder and practice more to be at the same level as the rest of his teammates. He may not like that fact, but it is what it is. He sucks at sports, and he knows it, but I tell him that part of the problem is that he doesn't want to try harder to get better. He'd rather play on his computer. I say to him that he obviously doesn't want it enough if he isn't willing to try harder.
My other DC's reading scores are not super high, and gets upset when DC doesn't score well. I tell this DC that if DC wants better test scores, DC needs to read more, but DC would rather watch TV, says reading is boring. OK, then, I guess you are not going to get better test scores because if you want to get better at something, you need to practice more. That is a truthism that is applicable to life in general.
I'm Asian Am. ,btw.
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.
Stop it. She is not saying her son is not athletic because he’s Asian American. She is saying her son is not athletic and happens to be Asian American. Educational success begins at home and there is something lacking in poor black/brown households making it so their kids don’t attain the level of educational success they could have attained in different environments.