Anonymous wrote:Tell me there isn't racial bias / discrimination.


"Student with 2 published books, 4.2 GPA and 1560 SAT score rejected by Harvard, MIT, Yale and Princeton"

Link to article below.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/student-2-published-books-4-182005756.html

This kid has better accolades than all of us and 80% of America and still got shafted.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

A friend of mine her kid last year got rejected with 143 NNAT, 146 Cogat first round, and took WISC for Appeal got 144 and got in. My kid got 160 NNAT, 144 Cogat and did not get in first round, took the WISC scored 154 (1 in 10,000), if he cannot get in then what kind of program is it? things are getting too far in AAP like what's going on with TJ.

You’ve posted the same thing on multiple threads In this forum the past few days. We get it, your kid is brilliant and the process is unfair. I agree. So Appeal and hope the committee agrees. Frankly thought, from all the details you’ve posted about your child’s brilliance, AAP is likely not the right fit either.

Sounds to me like they're seeking advice from others which is fine. What don't think is fine is being a jerk to people. If you don't want to hear about gifted kids, you may not want to spend time reading the Advanced Academics forum.

I’m really not trying to be a jerk - my apologies if it came across that way. Their child should absolutely have gotten into the program and probably needs more than even AAP can offer. I think they got great advice on the 2 threads they started asking specifically about their child and had multiple pages of responses, but they’re also posting the same info on nearly every recent AAP admittance and appeal thread and other ppl have scenarios they’d like advice on too.

I'd seen their post elsewhere too. I'm guessing it's just tough to process, especially with an exceptional kid. I've gotten a lot of good advice here over the years despite all the drama. The other thread did have some good suggestions. I hope they appeal and appeal and appeal until they get in.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

A friend of mine her kid last year got rejected with 143 NNAT, 146 Cogat first round, and took WISC for Appeal got 144 and got in. My kid got 160 NNAT, 144 Cogat and did not get in first round, took the WISC scored 154 (1 in 10,000), if he cannot get in then what kind of program is it? things are getting too far in AAP like what's going on with TJ.

You’ve posted the same thing on multiple threads In this forum the past few days. We get it, your kid is brilliant and the process is unfair. I agree. So Appeal and hope the committee agrees. Frankly thought, from all the details you’ve posted about your child’s brilliance, AAP is likely not the right fit either.

Sounds to me like they're seeking advice from others which is fine. What don't think is fine is being a jerk to people. If you don't want to hear about gifted kids, you may not want to spend time reading the Advanced Academics forum.

I’m really not trying to be a jerk - my apologies if it came across that way. Their child should absolutely have gotten into the program and probably needs more than even AAP can offer. I think they got great advice on the 2 threads they started asking specifically about their child and had multiple pages of responses, but they’re also posting the same info on nearly every recent AAP admittance and appeal thread and other ppl have scenarios they’d like advice on too.

Through my kid's AAP admission process I researched a lot on the education system in the recent years, and deeply puzzled and saddened by what is going on since I graduated in 2004 from Montgomery Country Public School. The year I graduated, the school I attended ranked nationally at 33, and as the latest ranking the same school ranked 572!! Montgomery Country Public School failed their students and parents in the past 20 years, is it Fairfax County Public School's turn? First TJ, then AAP? I'm glad that there are many FCPS parents fighting for their kids' education, many lawsuits are open out there, and the two cases regarding UNC and Harvard admission bias went to the supreme court and likely to have a favorable ruling. I'm glad that the college I went to does not participate in this nonsense, but I also experienced the discrimination from the California school system first handed (glad to hear that they do not participate in the racial discrimination anymore). This AAP process definitely opened my eyes and realized how messed up things became regarding education in the first last years, and a cleanup is needed!

If you believe this nonsense, you are really uninformed. These rankings aren't about the quality of education but simply measure the lack of poverty. The demographics of this area has changed dramatically over the past 20 years, which has a quantifiable impact. This does not mean there aren't a lot of kids who continue to do just as well or even better than decades past.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

A friend of mine her kid last year got rejected with 143 NNAT, 146 Cogat first round, and took WISC for Appeal got 144 and got in. My kid got 160 NNAT, 144 Cogat and did not get in first round, took the WISC scored 154 (1 in 10,000), if he cannot get in then what kind of program is it? things are getting too far in AAP like what's going on with TJ.

You’ve posted the same thing on multiple threads In this forum the past few days. We get it, your kid is brilliant and the process is unfair. I agree. So Appeal and hope the committee agrees. Frankly thought, from all the details you’ve posted about your child’s brilliance, AAP is likely not the right fit either.

Sounds to me like they're seeking advice from others which is fine. What don't think is fine is being a jerk to people. If you don't want to hear about gifted kids, you may not want to spend time reading the Advanced Academics forum.

I’m really not trying to be a jerk - my apologies if it came across that way. Their child should absolutely have gotten into the program and probably needs more than even AAP can offer. I think they got great advice on the 2 threads they started asking specifically about their child and had multiple pages of responses, but they’re also posting the same info on nearly every recent AAP admittance and appeal thread and other ppl have scenarios they’d like advice on too.

Through my kid's AAP admission process I researched a lot on the education system in the recent years, and deeply puzzled and saddened by what is going on since I graduated in 2004 from Montgomery Country Public School. The year I graduated, the school I attended ranked nationally at 33, and as the latest ranking the same school ranked 572!! Montgomery Country Public School failed their students and parents in the past 20 years, is it Fairfax County Public School's turn? First TJ, then AAP? I'm glad that there are many FCPS parents fighting for their kids' education, many lawsuits are open out there, and the two cases regarding UNC and Harvard admission bias went to the supreme court and likely to have a favorable ruling. I'm glad that the college I went to does not participate in this nonsense, but I also experienced the discrimination from the California school system first handed (glad to hear that they do not participate in the racial discrimination anymore). This AAP process definitely opened my eyes and realized how messed up things became regarding education in the first last years, and a cleanup is needed!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

A friend of mine her kid last year got rejected with 143 NNAT, 146 Cogat first round, and took WISC for Appeal got 144 and got in. My kid got 160 NNAT, 144 Cogat and did not get in first round, took the WISC scored 154 (1 in 10,000), if he cannot get in then what kind of program is it? things are getting too far in AAP like what's going on with TJ.

You’ve posted the same thing on multiple threads In this forum the past few days. We get it, your kid is brilliant and the process is unfair. I agree. So Appeal and hope the committee agrees. Frankly thought, from all the details you’ve posted about your child’s brilliance, AAP is likely not the right fit either.

Sounds to me like they're seeking advice from others which is fine. What don't think is fine is being a jerk to people. If you don't want to hear about gifted kids, you may not want to spend time reading the Advanced Academics forum.

I’m really not trying to be a jerk - my apologies if it came across that way. Their child should absolutely have gotten into the program and probably needs more than even AAP can offer. I think they got great advice on the 2 threads they started asking specifically about their child and had multiple pages of responses, but they’re also posting the same info on nearly every recent AAP admittance and appeal thread and other ppl have scenarios they’d like advice on too.

Through my kid's AAP admission process I researched a lot on the education system in the recent years, and deeply puzzled and saddened by what is going on since I graduated in 2004 from Montgomery Country Public School. The year I graduated, the school I attended ranked nationally at 33, and as the latest ranking the same school ranked 572!! Montgomery Country Public School failed their students and parents in the past 20 years, is it Fairfax County Public School's turn? First TJ, then AAP? I'm glad that there are many FCPS parents fighting for their kids' education, many lawsuits are open out there, and the two cases regarding UNC and Harvard admission bias went to the supreme court and likely to have a favorable ruling. I'm glad that the college I went to does not participate in this nonsense, but I also experienced the discrimination from the California school system first handed (glad to hear that they do not participate in the racial discrimination anymore). This AAP process definitely opened my eyes and realized how messed up things became regarding education in the first last years, and a cleanup is needed!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

A friend of mine her kid last year got rejected with 143 NNAT, 146 Cogat first round, and took WISC for Appeal got 144 and got in. My kid got 160 NNAT, 144 Cogat and did not get in first round, took the WISC scored 154 (1 in 10,000), if he cannot get in then what kind of program is it? things are getting too far in AAP like what's going on with TJ.

You’ve posted the same thing on multiple threads In this forum the past few days. We get it, your kid is brilliant and the process is unfair. I agree. So Appeal and hope the committee agrees. Frankly thought, from all the details you’ve posted about your child’s brilliance, AAP is likely not the right fit either.

Sounds to me like they're seeking advice from others which is fine. What don't think is fine is being a jerk to people. If you don't want to hear about gifted kids, you may not want to spend time reading the Advanced Academics forum.

I’m really not trying to be a jerk - my apologies if it came across that way. Their child should absolutely have gotten into the program and probably needs more than even AAP can offer. I think they got great advice on the 2 threads they started asking specifically about their child and had multiple pages of responses, but they’re also posting the same info on nearly every recent AAP admittance and appeal thread and other ppl have scenarios they’d like advice on too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

A friend of mine her kid last year got rejected with 143 NNAT, 146 Cogat first round, and took WISC for Appeal got 144 and got in. My kid got 160 NNAT, 144 Cogat and did not get in first round, took the WISC scored 154 (1 in 10,000), if he cannot get in then what kind of program is it? things are getting too far in AAP like what's going on with TJ.

You’ve posted the same thing on multiple threads In this forum the past few days. We get it, your kid is brilliant and the process is unfair. I agree. So Appeal and hope the committee agrees. Frankly thought, from all the details you’ve posted about your child’s brilliance, AAP is likely not the right fit either.

Sounds to me like they're seeking advice from others which is fine. What don't think is fine is being a jerk to people. If you don't want to hear about gifted kids, you may not want to spend time reading the Advanced Academics forum.

I’m really not trying to be a jerk - my apologies if it came across that way. Their child should absolutely have gotten into the program and probably needs more than even AAP can offer. I think they got great advice on the 2 threads they started asking specifically about their child and had multiple pages of responses, but they’re also posting the same info on nearly every recent AAP admittance and appeal thread and other ppl have scenarios they’d like advice on too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

A friend of mine her kid last year got rejected with 143 NNAT, 146 Cogat first round, and took WISC for Appeal got 144 and got in. My kid got 160 NNAT, 144 Cogat and did not get in first round, took the WISC scored 154 (1 in 10,000), if he cannot get in then what kind of program is it? things are getting too far in AAP like what's going on with TJ.

You’ve posted the same thing on multiple threads In this forum the past few days. We get it, your kid is brilliant and the process is unfair. I agree. So Appeal and hope the committee agrees. Frankly thought, from all the details you’ve posted about your child’s brilliance, AAP is likely not the right fit either.

Sounds to me like they're seeking advice from others which is fine. What don't think is fine is being a jerk to people. If you don't want to hear about gifted kids, you may not want to spend time reading the Advanced Academics forum.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

A friend of mine her kid last year got rejected with 143 NNAT, 146 Cogat first round, and took WISC for Appeal got 144 and got in. My kid got 160 NNAT, 144 Cogat and did not get in first round, took the WISC scored 154 (1 in 10,000), if he cannot get in then what kind of program is it? things are getting too far in AAP like what's going on with TJ.

You’ve posted the same thing on multiple threads In this forum the past few days. We get it, your kid is brilliant and the process is unfair. I agree. So Appeal and hope the committee agrees. Frankly thought, from all the details you’ve posted about your child’s brilliance, AAP is likely not the right fit either.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

A friend of mine her kid last year got rejected with 143 NNAT, 146 Cogat first round, and took WISC for Appeal got 144 and got in. My kid got 160 NNAT, 144 Cogat and did not get in first round, took the WISC scored 154 (1 in 10,000), if he cannot get in then what kind of program is it? things are getting too far in AAP like what's going on with TJ.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.