Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh and judges tend to not want to upset the status quo, so if one parent has had sole or primary custody for a significant length of time, you’d be hard pressed to find a judge willing to change that because of a change in marital status.
That's not true. I have seen plenty of custodies getting switched after 3 years. Happens all the time. Having kids is a privilege and an honor and the primary parent needs to take the responsibility.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, you would be surprised how many women want custody for child support and in most cases, even 1/2 of it is not used on the kid. This is a known fact based on various different levels of research. Can't deny it.
The average child support payment in this country is $430. So, you are saying that most women receiving child support are spending less than $215 a month on food, housing, clothing, childcare and all of the other expenses you have with a kid?
The average for the country is incorrect way of looking at it. If someone is paying $430 then they would only be making $30-40K and imagine paying CS on that. In DC area, it's pretty common to see $2K+ as CS which is not even deductible in anyway. You also forgot the spousal support some spouses get and according to facts, it's mostly from men to women.
I remember, my poor handyman in a small town in SW VA was $1300 for his 2 kids. He had difficulty making ends meet but his wife with minimum paying job got her 3rd new car in 5th year. I wonder how much of that is going towards the kids.
Why should it be deductible? I can’t deduct the expense of raising kids either.
The person receiving the money should pay taxes on it.
Why? The taxes have already been paid, presumably at a higher rate, by the payor.
Spousal tax deduction is no longer allowed and CS was never included in the taxes anyway. There has to be some accountability on where all the money meant for kids is going though.
Yes I know. But that has nothing to do with the claim that the person receiving the money should pay tax on it. I asked why since the taxes have already been paid.
Tax has nothing to do with accountability and recipients are not required to account for how the money is spent[b]. It doesn’t work that way.
I will never understand this.
What, exactly, is the reason that recipients don't have to account for the $$? Seems like a system ripe for abuse, to me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, you would be surprised how many women want custody for child support and in most cases, even 1/2 of it is not used on the kid. This is a known fact based on various different levels of research. Can't deny it.
The average child support payment in this country is $430. So, you are saying that most women receiving child support are spending less than $215 a month on food, housing, clothing, childcare and all of the other expenses you have with a kid?
The average for the country is incorrect way of looking at it. If someone is paying $430 then they would only be making $30-40K and imagine paying CS on that. In DC area, it's pretty common to see $2K+ as CS which is not even deductible in anyway. You also forgot the spousal support some spouses get and according to facts, it's mostly from men to women.
I remember, my poor handyman in a small town in SW VA was $1300 for his 2 kids. He had difficulty making ends meet but his wife with minimum paying job got her 3rd new car in 5th year. I wonder how much of that is going towards the kids.
Why should it be deductible? I can’t deduct the expense of raising kids either.
The person receiving the money should pay taxes on it.
Why? The taxes have already been paid, presumably at a higher rate, by the payor.
Spousal tax deduction is no longer allowed and CS was never included in the taxes anyway. There has to be some accountability on where all the money meant for kids is going though.
Yes I know. But that has nothing to do with the claim that the person receiving the money should pay tax on it. I asked why since the taxes have already been paid.
Tax has nothing to do with accountability and recipients are not required to account for how the money is spent[b]. It doesn’t work that way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, you would be surprised how many women want custody for child support and in most cases, even 1/2 of it is not used on the kid. This is a known fact based on various different levels of research. Can't deny it.
The average child support payment in this country is $430. So, you are saying that most women receiving child support are spending less than $215 a month on food, housing, clothing, childcare and all of the other expenses you have with a kid?
The average for the country is incorrect way of looking at it. If someone is paying $430 then they would only be making $30-40K and imagine paying CS on that. In DC area, it's pretty common to see $2K+ as CS which is not even deductible in anyway. You also forgot the spousal support some spouses get and according to facts, it's mostly from men to women.
I remember, my poor handyman in a small town in SW VA was $1300 for his 2 kids. He had difficulty making ends meet but his wife with minimum paying job got her 3rd new car in 5th year. I wonder how much of that is going towards the kids.
Why should it be deductible? I can’t deduct the expense of raising kids either.
The person receiving the money should pay taxes on it.
Why? The taxes have already been paid, presumably at a higher rate, by the payor.
Spousal tax deduction is no longer allowed and CS was never included in the taxes anyway. There has to be some accountability on where all the money meant for kids is going though.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, you would be surprised how many women want custody for child support and in most cases, even 1/2 of it is not used on the kid. This is a known fact based on various different levels of research. Can't deny it.
The average child support payment in this country is $430. So, you are saying that most women receiving child support are spending less than $215 a month on food, housing, clothing, childcare and all of the other expenses you have with a kid?
The average for the country is incorrect way of looking at it. If someone is paying $430 then they would only be making $30-40K and imagine paying CS on that. In DC area, it's pretty common to see $2K+ as CS which is not even deductible in anyway. You also forgot the spousal support some spouses get and according to facts, it's mostly from men to women.
I remember, my poor handyman in a small town in SW VA was $1300 for his 2 kids. He had difficulty making ends meet but his wife with minimum paying job got her 3rd new car in 5th year. I wonder how much of that is going towards the kids.
Why should it be deductible? I can’t deduct the expense of raising kids either.
The person receiving the money should pay taxes on it.
Anonymous wrote:It absolutely can. And it happened to my ex wife when she married me. We were able to increase custody due to her being home more as a result of being able to work part time after our marriage and getting pregnant. The person saying not even close doesn’t know anything.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, you would be surprised how many women want custody for child support and in most cases, even 1/2 of it is not used on the kid. This is a known fact based on various different levels of research. Can't deny it.
The average child support payment in this country is $430. So, you are saying that most women receiving child support are spending less than $215 a month on food, housing, clothing, childcare and all of the other expenses you have with a kid?
The average for the country is incorrect way of looking at it. If someone is paying $430 then they would only be making $30-40K and imagine paying CS on that. In DC area, it's pretty common to see $2K+ as CS which is not even deductible in anyway. You also forgot the spousal support some spouses get and according to facts, it's mostly from men to women.
I remember, my poor handyman in a small town in SW VA was $1300 for his 2 kids. He had difficulty making ends meet but his wife with minimum paying job got her 3rd new car in 5th year. I wonder how much of that is going towards the kids.
Why should it be deductible? I can’t deduct the expense of raising kids either.
The person receiving the money should pay taxes on it.
Why? The taxes have already been paid, presumably at a higher rate, by the payor.
Spousal tax deduction is no longer allowed and CS was never included in the taxes anyway. There has to be some accountability on where all the money meant for kids is going though.
Cheat, lie and be a general jerk, leave your spouse and kid to move to and live a thousand miles away with AP and her kids (plural). Then of course I’m going to extract as much of the only thing I can legally extract from you. In this area CS in an amount well in excess of $2,000 even for one kid isn’t uncommon. Life is hard, juggling full time work and raising a child as a single parent, with little support from the other parent is extra hard. Being able to work 35-40 hours a week or even part time, and throw money at problems and being able to save money every month, makes for a much easier and less stressful life for parent and as a result for kid as well.
I know way to many women who tried to be nice, reduced awarded support obligations, only to have ex leave (men never leave until they have a relationship in the wings) and immediately set up new life with new gf/wife and her kids or have more kids with new wife. Forget that, that benefits my or your kid how?
If you choose to break the contract then I choose to care only about the security and stability of me and my own. And since we no longer have a contract you get no say in how I spend court ordered support. The court didn’t have a problem with how I was or planned to spend the money so why should you?
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes!
What about the women who cheat and leave with the AP, take the kids, demand alimony and child support and refuse visitation and phone contact? They set up a new home with AP. That ok to treat dads that way?
I’d say someone is lying to you. Sorry if a Dad wants to be involved and has otherwise been committed to his family, and he wants shared custody he’s going to get it. If he didn’t show up to court and fight then whose fault is that?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, you would be surprised how many women want custody for child support and in most cases, even 1/2 of it is not used on the kid. This is a known fact based on various different levels of research. Can't deny it.
The average child support payment in this country is $430. So, you are saying that most women receiving child support are spending less than $215 a month on food, housing, clothing, childcare and all of the other expenses you have with a kid?
The average for the country is incorrect way of looking at it. If someone is paying $430 then they would only be making $30-40K and imagine paying CS on that. In DC area, it's pretty common to see $2K+ as CS which is not even deductible in anyway. You also forgot the spousal support some spouses get and according to facts, it's mostly from men to women.
I remember, my poor handyman in a small town in SW VA was $1300 for his 2 kids. He had difficulty making ends meet but his wife with minimum paying job got her 3rd new car in 5th year. I wonder how much of that is going towards the kids.
Why should it be deductible? I can’t deduct the expense of raising kids either.
The person receiving the money should pay taxes on it.
Why? The taxes have already been paid, presumably at a higher rate, by the payor.[/qu
Spousal tax deduction is no longer allowed and CS was never included in the taxes anyway. There has to be some accountability on where all the money meant for kids is going though.
Cheat, lie and be a general jerk, leave your spouse and kid to move to and live a thousand miles away with AP and her kids (plural). Then of course I’m going to extract as much of the only thing I can legally extract from you. In this area CS in an amount well in excess of $2,000 even for one kid isn’t uncommon. Life is hard, juggling full time work and raising a child as a single parent, with little support from the other parent is extra hard. Being able to work 35-40 hours a week or even part time, and throw money at problems and being able to save money every month, makes for a much easier and less stressful life for parent and as a result for kid as well.
I know way to many women who tried to be nice, reduced awarded support obligations, only to have ex leave (men never leave until they have a relationship in the wings) and immediately set up new life with new gf/wife and her kids or have more kids with new wife. Forget that, that benefits my or your kid how?
If you choose to break the contract then I choose to care only about the security and stability of me and my own. And since we no longer have a contract you get no say in how I spend court ordered support. The court didn’t have a problem with how I was or planned to spend the money so why should you?
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes!
Oh, so it is about holding grudges and staying bitter? That's what the CS is all about then. Nice!
Hah hah sparky trust me it’s hard to be bitter when you lose the dead weight and can afford to live Well and have a peaceful home. Shhh maybe this is a secret but losing the dead weight and maintaining a very decent standard of living doesn’t make for bitterness nor grudges. In fact I’m as nice as pie. That really drives me nuts! I’m not the one on a budget.
Probably your financial security is good but not for others. Some mothers use their kids' CS as extra money they can't or won't make. You got rid of the dead weight but still have grudges after all you wasted all those precious years with him.
Anonymous wrote:Oh and judges tend to not want to upset the status quo, so if one parent has had sole or primary custody for a significant length of time, you’d be hard pressed to find a judge willing to change that because of a change in marital status.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, you would be surprised how many women want custody for child support and in most cases, even 1/2 of it is not used on the kid. This is a known fact based on various different levels of research. Can't deny it.
The average child support payment in this country is $430. So, you are saying that most women receiving child support are spending less than $215 a month on food, housing, clothing, childcare and all of the other expenses you have with a kid?
The average for the country is incorrect way of looking at it. If someone is paying $430 then they would only be making $30-40K and imagine paying CS on that. In DC area, it's pretty common to see $2K+ as CS which is not even deductible in anyway. You also forgot the spousal support some spouses get and according to facts, it's mostly from men to women.
I remember, my poor handyman in a small town in SW VA was $1300 for his 2 kids. He had difficulty making ends meet but his wife with minimum paying job got her 3rd new car in 5th year. I wonder how much of that is going towards the kids.
Why should it be deductible? I can’t deduct the expense of raising kids either.
The person receiving the money should pay taxes on it.
Why? The taxes have already been paid, presumably at a higher rate, by the payor.
Spousal tax deduction is no longer allowed and CS was never included in the taxes anyway. There has to be some accountability on where all the money meant for kids is going though.
Cheat, lie and be a general jerk, leave your spouse and kid to move to and live a thousand miles away with AP and her kids (plural). Then of course I’m going to extract as much of the only thing I can legally extract from you. In this area CS in an amount well in excess of $2,000 even for one kid isn’t uncommon. Life is hard, juggling full time work and raising a child as a single parent, with little support from the other parent is extra hard. Being able to work 35-40 hours a week or even part time, and throw money at problems and being able to save money every month, makes for a much easier and less stressful life for parent and as a result for kid as well.
I know way to many women who tried to be nice, reduced awarded support obligations, only to have ex leave (men never leave until they have a relationship in the wings) and immediately set up new life with new gf/wife and her kids or have more kids with new wife. Forget that, that benefits my or your kid how?
If you choose to break the contract then I choose to care only about the security and stability of me and my own. And since we no longer have a contract you get no say in how I spend court ordered support. The court didn’t have a problem with how I was or planned to spend the money so why should you?
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes!
What about the women who cheat and leave with the AP, take the kids, demand alimony and child support and refuse visitation and phone contact? They set up a new home with AP. That ok to treat dads that way?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, you would be surprised how many women want custody for child support and in most cases, even 1/2 of it is not used on the kid. This is a known fact based on various different levels of research. Can't deny it.
The average child support payment in this country is $430. So, you are saying that most women receiving child support are spending less than $215 a month on food, housing, clothing, childcare and all of the other expenses you have with a kid?
The average for the country is incorrect way of looking at it. If someone is paying $430 then they would only be making $30-40K and imagine paying CS on that. In DC area, it's pretty common to see $2K+ as CS which is not even deductible in anyway. You also forgot the spousal support some spouses get and according to facts, it's mostly from men to women.
I remember, my poor handyman in a small town in SW VA was $1300 for his 2 kids. He had difficulty making ends meet but his wife with minimum paying job got her 3rd new car in 5th year. I wonder how much of that is going towards the kids.
Why should it be deductible? I can’t deduct the expense of raising kids either.
The person receiving the money should pay taxes on it.
Why? The taxes have already been paid, presumably at a higher rate, by the payor.
Spousal tax deduction is no longer allowed and CS was never included in the taxes anyway. There has to be some accountability on where all the money meant for kids is going though.
Cheat, lie and be a general jerk, leave your spouse and kid to move to and live a thousand miles away with AP and her kids (plural). Then of course I’m going to extract as much of the only thing I can legally extract from you. In this area CS in an amount well in excess of $2,000 even for one kid isn’t uncommon. Life is hard, juggling full time work and raising a child as a single parent, with little support from the other parent is extra hard. Being able to work 35-40 hours a week or even part time, and throw money at problems and being able to save money every month, makes for a much easier and less stressful life for parent and as a result for kid as well.
I know way to many women who tried to be nice, reduced awarded support obligations, only to have ex leave (men never leave until they have a relationship in the wings) and immediately set up new life with new gf/wife and her kids or have more kids with new wife. Forget that, that benefits my or your kid how?
If you choose to break the contract then I choose to care only about the security and stability of me and my own. And since we no longer have a contract you get no say in how I spend court ordered support. The court didn’t have a problem with how I was or planned to spend the money so why should you?
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes!
Oh, so it is about holding grudges and staying bitter? That's what the CS is all about then. Nice!