Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 09:36     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I'm telling you guys, these anonymous instagram posts are full of BS. If someone really got assaulted, it should by all means be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Administrators who turned a blind eye should also be held accountable. BUT these "black at *****" and "female at ******" where ANYONE can just submit an anonymous claim... don't ever underestimate the power of bored teenagers (and adults) sitting at home ready to write fan fiction. Or people with a grudge against someone or their family. I could literally go on that account right now and claim to be a high school girl who was assaulted at Blair. And I don't even live in Maryland!


I agree. They do serve to highlight that systemic racism happens everywhere, but I would not take individual stories to heart. Not on the internet, and certainly not from anonymous posters.


I have 2 kids at an MCPS school which has a survivors at instagram account. Many of the posted stories are well known to them already, having heard and/or witnessed events.

I'll tell you from a female point of view (as an adult) and from the point of view of my HS aged female child -- the problem is YOU in that you (and many other adults in positions of power) would prefer to believe these stories are made up. In 12 years of raising 2 kids in the MCPS system, I can tell many horrifying stories about racism and sexism. W/reference to sexism, in MCPS, I have seen a number of verifiable sexual assault incidents go unreported and unpunished. And then there is the plethora of sexual assault and harassment cases that are sub-criminal but still unacceptable -- that teacher that stares at your boobs or talks about sexual things? not a crime. The boy that tries to kiss you without consent. No one is going to believe you or treat it as a sexual assault. The teacher that continually criticizes your dress-code allowed clothing? also not a crime, not reportable, not considered an offense of any kind and teacher will not be corrected.

DP.. I have both a boy and girl, and I have been touched inappropriately when I was in HS (and beyond). I believe sh1t like this still happens in HS, of course. BUT, anonymous posting on social media accusing a boy of xyz is not the way to deal with it.

A person up thread responded to me saying that girls don't report these incidences because of fear and shame. How well I know that. I went through the same thing in HS. I posted this up thread.. I was too embarrassed. BUT, again, anonymous posting is not the way to deal with it. This leads to too much false accusations. As much as a girl's reputation and life can be impacted by this assault, a boy's life, too, can be impacted by false accusations.

If your DD was accused of cheating or stealing would you be ok with someone posting this on the internet without her being able to prove her innocence? Girls can be mean to each other and slam each other by spreading rumors and false accusations about a girl. Would you be ok with that? I'm guessing not. How do you even know the person posting is being truthful? It's like you believing every post on dcum is true.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 09:19     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm telling you guys, these anonymous instagram posts are full of BS. If someone really got assaulted, it should by all means be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Administrators who turned a blind eye should also be held accountable. BUT these "black at *****" and "female at ******" where ANYONE can just submit an anonymous claim... don't ever underestimate the power of bored teenagers (and adults) sitting at home ready to write fan fiction. Or people with a grudge against someone or their family. I could literally go on that account right now and claim to be a high school girl who was assaulted at Blair. And I don't even live in Maryland!


I agree. They do serve to highlight that systemic racism happens everywhere, but I would not take individual stories to heart. Not on the internet, and certainly not from anonymous posters.


I have 2 kids at an MCPS school which has a survivors at instagram account. Many of the posted stories are well known to them already, having heard and/or witnessed events.

I'll tell you from a female point of view (as an adult) and from the point of view of my HS aged female child -- the problem is YOU in that you (and many other adults in positions of power) would prefer to believe these stories are made up. In 12 years of raising 2 kids in the MCPS system, I can tell many horrifying stories about racism and sexism. W/reference to sexism, in MCPS, I have seen a number of verifiable sexual assault incidents go unreported and unpunished. And then there is the plethora of sexual assault and harassment cases that are sub-criminal but still unacceptable -- that teacher that stares at your boobs or talks about sexual things? not a crime. The boy that tries to kiss you without consent. No one is going to believe you or treat it as a sexual assault. The teacher that continually criticizes your dress-code allowed clothing? also not a crime, not reportable, not considered an offense of any kind and teacher will not be corrected.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 09:13     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Yikes. I’m not comfortable with the public identification on social media of minors who have been accused. There has to be a better way.

+1 agree with reporting assault; don't agree with anonymous accusations on social media without proof, especially against minors.

I am a mom of a boy and girl, and my DS goes to one of the HS named on that article. My DD will be going there soon. If there is a serious issue of assault and boys who are sexual predators, I dam* well want school administrators to do something about it. But, an anonymous accusation is not the right approach. Did these girls (boys?) tell teachers/parents/administrators about what happened? That's the correct process, not an anonymous social media post.

And I say this as someone who was touched inappropriately when I was in HS.


Except that, even when students do report these incidents, MCPS doesn’t act appropriately.

Remember Damascus? The victim went to the principal and nobody was Held accountable. Remember the Rockville case?

MCPS has a culture of not keeping students safe from sexual assault on their watch. Students see this happen and know they won’t get the support they need from MCPS. MCPS would rather sweep any untoward incidents under the rug.


If it's a sexual assault, it should be reported to the police. That's what the email from MCPS even says.

+1 If my kid was sexually assaulted, I wouldn't just stop at complaining to the school. I'd call the cops.

Not excusing MCPS, but posting these allegations on social media is not the right way to do it.


If your kid was sexually assaulted, the odds are he/she wouldn't even tell you.

Why? Because sexual assault survivors have very limited option in the criminal system, are subject to a lot of harassment, lose their privacy, and lose their control over the event when reporting (control being the one thing they feel a strong need to regain after an assault).
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2020 08:25     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:I'm telling you guys, these anonymous instagram posts are full of BS. If someone really got assaulted, it should by all means be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Administrators who turned a blind eye should also be held accountable. BUT these "black at *****" and "female at ******" where ANYONE can just submit an anonymous claim... don't ever underestimate the power of bored teenagers (and adults) sitting at home ready to write fan fiction. Or people with a grudge against someone or their family. I could literally go on that account right now and claim to be a high school girl who was assaulted at Blair. And I don't even live in Maryland!


I agree. They do serve to highlight that systemic racism happens everywhere, but I would not take individual stories to heart. Not on the internet, and certainly not from anonymous posters.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 18:32     Subject: Re:New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
They’ve changed the names of the Instagram feeds to “survivorsat” and added ones for survivorsatwhitman, survivors at BCC, survivors at wootton etc. The posts are so upsetting but none surprise me. I’m a teacher and on the educators supporting educators private Facebook page, there’s a discussion about teachers who went to their MCPS admin to report sketchy behavior and harassment and racist behavior and paid a price for that.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 16:16     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
The one that broke my heart was the girl who went to her counselor crying because she had to attend class with her rapist. The counselor “consoled” her by telling her that he would be the only make at the school allowed to get close to her. Three days later, he was arrested for rape.

I remember his arrest and how male staff at the HS where I taught at the time laughed and said he would be released because the guy was a HS counselor. No one would think he was a date rapist.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 16:08     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Duke rape case was an excellent case of you shouldn’t always believe the accuser. I realize that minorities are discriminated against but sometimes the majority suffers to because of special protections that nefarious minorities use.


Amber Heard is another famous liar.


I believe her. She donated the money. There was no gain on her part.


vengeance. She ruined his career.


He seems to be working from what I see.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 15:37     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:Is there a way to see the posts?


Look for female@ or femaleat name of school names Instagram accounts. FemaleatWooton is quite extensive but includes accounts of other schools
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 15:35     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yikes. I’m not comfortable with the public identification on social media of minors who have been accused. There has to be a better way.

+1 agree with reporting assault; don't agree with anonymous accusations on social media without proof, especially against minors.

I am a mom of a boy and girl, and my DS goes to one of the HS named on that article. My DD will be going there soon. If there is a serious issue of assault and boys who are sexual predators, I dam* well want school administrators to do something about it. But, an anonymous accusation is not the right approach. Did these girls (boys?) tell teachers/parents/administrators about what happened? That's the correct process, not an anonymous social media post.

And I say this as someone who was touched inappropriately when I was in HS.


Except that, even when students do report these incidents, MCPS doesn’t act appropriately.

Remember Damascus? The victim went to the principal and nobody was Held accountable. Remember the Rockville case?

MCPS has a culture of not keeping students safe from sexual assault on their watch. Students see this happen and know they won’t get the support they need from MCPS. MCPS would rather sweep any untoward incidents under the rug.


The principal in the Damascus case failed to report sexual assaults when she was previously principal at Eastern Middle School. In fact, the Board of Education knew about these problems and failed to do anything about them. In a public PTA meeting staff from MCPS central office said that parents who complained about these sexual assaults didn’t understand that their daughters “wanted” that kind of sexual attention.

The sexism is deep and systemic in all MCPS schools as well as administration.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 15:31     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm telling you guys, these anonymous instagram posts are full of BS. If someone really got assaulted, it should by all means be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Administrators who turned a blind eye should also be held accountable. BUT these "black at *****" and "female at ******" where ANYONE can just submit an anonymous claim... don't ever underestimate the power of bored teenagers (and adults) sitting at home ready to write fan fiction. Or people with a grudge against someone or their family. I could literally go on that account right now and claim to be a high school girl who was assaulted at Blair. And I don't even live in Maryland!


Agree.


I’m the parent of 2 kids in MCPS schools. These accounts are not BS. I have heard the same stories and worse in the past 10 years. Particularly after Kavanaugh hearings, my DD and I had some very serious and detailed talks about our high school experiences at the same MCPS HS - 30 years apart, not much has changed.

Some of these stories have made the news (girls fighting against being sexually rated by their male peers), many have not. The problem is that many behaviors are not crimes (back rubs and lears from teachers, revenge bragging from guys), others are crimes but the system is designed to keep girls from reporting and going to trial, and still others the administration simply refuses to do anything about (girls accused rapist assigned to her class).

I applaud these young women for speaking the truth and am ashamed my generation wasn’t able to protect them from what we ourselves regularly suffered. As a result, they have developed their own punishments - peer banishment and public shaming of perpetrators and naming of bystanders. These methods of self-protection aren’t going to disappear.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 14:34     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Duke rape case was an excellent case of you shouldn’t always believe the accuser. I realize that minorities are discriminated against but sometimes the majority suffers to because of special protections that nefarious minorities use.


Amber Heard is another famous liar.


I believe her. She donated the money. There was no gain on her part.


vengeance. She ruined his career.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 08:08     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Duke rape case was an excellent case of you shouldn’t always believe the accuser. I realize that minorities are discriminated against but sometimes the majority suffers to because of special protections that nefarious minorities use.


Amber Heard is another famous liar.


I believe her. She donated the money. There was no gain on her part.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 08:06     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:Duke rape case was an excellent case of you shouldn’t always believe the accuser. I realize that minorities are discriminated against but sometimes the majority suffers to because of special protections that nefarious minorities use.


Amber Heard is another famous liar.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 06:13     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Reading the IG posts, why wouldn’t you want DL?

DL would mean your DDs aren't harassed and your DSs aren't falsely accused.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 04:10     Subject: New Sexual Assault Case. What school?
Anonymous wrote:Duke rape case was an excellent case of you shouldn’t always believe the accuser. I realize that minorities are discriminated against but sometimes the majority suffers to because of special protections that nefarious minorities use.


And UVA and “Jackie”, and Lena Durham, and “Mattress Girl”.

But whatever, go to the police.