Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 17:08     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like some of these posters don’t think owning slaves is a disqualifier for being a good person.


Times were different in 1789. I don't judge the past by today's values and morals.


You think it was moral to own slaves 200 years ago? It never has been moral to own slaves, there have always been people that were against it and people that made the choice to own a human being. They knew what they were doing, they just cared about money more than morals or people.


You have little understanding of historical context and nuance, which is regrettable.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 16:46     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:Our morals have evolved. No need to honor those people in 2020.


And they will continue to evolve. Let’s not name things or places after anyone anymore. Take a page after the hunger games and start naming things district 1, 2 , 3 etc.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 10:04     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While the concept is not so off base, have the petitioners calculated the costs in changing the name. It is not just a sign on the building. It is all the uniforms, paper goods, computer changes, logos through out the school. Some kids did not get Chromebooks and could not access distance learning well in the spring. I would much rather $$ be spent on that or similar deficiencies if they are back full time in the fall.

RM parent.


Is your DC an ADOS? Because it is one thing to accept your child honoring a slave holder when your child is not descendent of enslaved people and another when that is part of your family’s history.


Attending a school does not mean each student is honoring the namesake.



If the name is emblazoned on your jersey, it is. If you hang team photos in your living room with the name of a slaveholder written on your clothing, you are.


My son's Eagle Scout certificate is signed by Trump. We display it but in no way are honoring him.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 09:52     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:George Washington also had slaves. As did Jefferson, and other US potus. Maybe we should take down their monuments.

I'm totally for BLM and renaming military bases that are named after *confederate* generals, as they are basically traitors to the USA. But, I don't think we need to rename *everything* named after people in this country's history who owned slaves. Lots of people owned slaves; it was the norm during that time.





George and Martha "owned" >700 enslaved people. Jefferson raped and had children with an enslaved woman he "owned". You can't leave the past in the past when you have daily reminders. Hey, let's live on Jeffry Epstein Street or Dahmer Blvd.

Why does it matter how many slaves the Washington's owned? As for Jefferson, if he did rape her, and never felt sorry for it, then sure, demolish his monument. But there were many back then who did own slaves and then eventually changed their minds about it. Washington was such a person, and B. Franklin.

Maybe what ought to be done is keep the Jefferson memorial, but in it, also put a memorial up for those he wronged? What better way to remind people that Jefferson was not perfect and slavery was evil. People who go to Jefferson's monument will see both. I like the monument, and some of the words inscribed there. Mt. Vernon has something similar, I believe. They have an area dedicated to the slaves there; I think it's near Washington's tomb from what I recall.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 09:48     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While the concept is not so off base, have the petitioners calculated the costs in changing the name. It is not just a sign on the building. It is all the uniforms, paper goods, computer changes, logos through out the school. Some kids did not get Chromebooks and could not access distance learning well in the spring. I would much rather $$ be spent on that or similar deficiencies if they are back full time in the fall.

RM parent.


Is your DC an ADOS? Because it is one thing to accept your child honoring a slave holder when your child is not descendent of enslaved people and another when that is part of your family’s history.


Attending a school does not mean each student is honoring the namesake.



If the name is emblazoned on your jersey, it is. If you hang team photos in your living room with the name of a slaveholder written on your clothing, you are.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 09:31     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While the concept is not so off base, have the petitioners calculated the costs in changing the name. It is not just a sign on the building. It is all the uniforms, paper goods, computer changes, logos through out the school. Some kids did not get Chromebooks and could not access distance learning well in the spring. I would much rather $$ be spent on that or similar deficiencies if they are back full time in the fall.

RM parent.


Is your DC an ADOS? Because it is one thing to accept your child honoring a slave holder when your child is not descendent of enslaved people and another when that is part of your family’s history.


Attending a school does not mean each student is honoring the namesake.

Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 09:25     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like some of these posters don’t think owning slaves is a disqualifier for being a good person.


It was the time in history and things have evolved as all civilizations generally do. FFS week don’t hold you accountable for the mistakes of your youth.


It was not a mistake. It was a conscious choice to hold people as property. Slavery was well-protected in the US constitution. It was woven purposefully into the economy of every part of the nation (looking at you, New England).

But if I hit a person drunk driving during Beach Week when I was 18 and then at 40 was on Social Media celebrating that epic weekend back then and how great it was being that smashed and driving all over the island wasted, you would hold me accountable.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 09:21     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:While the concept is not so off base, have the petitioners calculated the costs in changing the name. It is not just a sign on the building. It is all the uniforms, paper goods, computer changes, logos through out the school. Some kids did not get Chromebooks and could not access distance learning well in the spring. I would much rather $$ be spent on that or similar deficiencies if they are back full time in the fall.

RM parent.


Is your DC an ADOS? Because it is one thing to accept your child honoring a slave holder when your child is not descendent of enslaved people and another when that is part of your family’s history.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 09:13     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Our morals have evolved. No need to honor those people in 2020.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 08:54     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:I feel like some of these posters don’t think owning slaves is a disqualifier for being a good person.


It was the time in history and things have evolved as all civilizations generally do. FFS week don’t hold you accountable for the mistakes of your youth.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 08:51     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:This is getting out of hand.


You think? Your mind on liberalism, you got what you voted for. Congrats!
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 08:49     Subject: Re:Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:How about we all agree all white folk born before 2020 are flawed individuals in one way or another.


As are all POC.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 08:47     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

While the concept is not so off base, have the petitioners calculated the costs in changing the name. It is not just a sign on the building. It is all the uniforms, paper goods, computer changes, logos through out the school. Some kids did not get Chromebooks and could not access distance learning well in the spring. I would much rather $$ be spent on that or similar deficiencies if they are back full time in the fall.

RM parent.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 08:37     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Yeah - let's rename it George Floyd Blvd
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 05:55     Subject: Time to Re-name Montgomery County

Anonymous wrote:George Washington also had slaves. As did Jefferson, and other US potus. Maybe we should take down their monuments.

I'm totally for BLM and renaming military bases that are named after *confederate* generals, as they are basically traitors to the USA. But, I don't think we need to rename *everything* named after people in this country's history who owned slaves. Lots of people owned slaves; it was the norm during that time.





George and Martha "owned" >700 enslaved people. Jefferson raped and had children with an enslaved woman he "owned". You can't leave the past in the past when you have daily reminders. Hey, let's live on Jeffry Epstein Street or Dahmer Blvd.