Yep, here's the article. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/09/who-scrambles-to-clarify-comments-on-asymptomatic-coronavirus-spread-much-is-still-unknown.html?fbclid=IwAR00TYEj4ynELBcpkV2-qXoucAki_3BsMI2PblwldROL07RQVRRQbXHzjZQAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WHO now says asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is "very rare."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
They will be open inperson on September 1. Full normality second half of the year. This news is huge.
The news actually makes zero difference. For one it is called into question by many experts. But even assuming it’s true, it’s not
Helpful. It says ASYMPTOMATIC cases rarely spread the disease- those are the cases we never hear about and are rarely counted for in our numbers. But this doesn’t effect what the CDC found just two weeks ago - that 40% of transmissions occur BEFORE symptoms, so not just talking about asymptomatics here. This is the critical factor that makes opening up schools (and other places) difficult. A huge percentage of transmissions occur before anyone even had a
Symptom - so screenings and focusing on quarantine the sick only is not going to be effective to prevent or sufficiently mitigate the spread.
And WHO already walked back on this statement yesterday essentially saying that’s not what they meant and that 40% of transmissions indeed may be asymptomatic spread...
Anonymous wrote:What coronavirus? That’s old. The American public has forgotten about that!! Americans have short memories. Even if you watch the news, CV doesn’t come up until 15 minutes after the start. Americans are getting out, back to work and making money. There are no more daily news conferences- VA, MD, Trump/Fauci/Birx, and has Bowser had a CV update lately?? I predict you’ll start seeing stories of less transmission and more recovery rates (with evidence based on recent protests), phases of reopening occurring and all will be forgotten by Fall. Once sports get back started and TV Is live again, you will hear jokes about remembering CV. All of these plastic shields, 6 foot barrier and masks required signs will disappear too! I’m not saying that CV is gone away but reporting and it’s coverage will change really soon. Kids will be in school in September maybe October at the latest but life has to go on.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WHO now says asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is "very rare."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
They will be open inperson on September 1. Full normality second half of the year. This news is huge.
And yet cases are raising all over the country. Maybe by people that identified as having little or no symptoms. Now idk if they didn't recognize their own mild symptoms or not. But it is back on the raise and WHO said it would likely die down for summer. So, not putting a lot of weight in this new idea. They also gave no context for "rare" 1 in 5, 1 in 10, 1 in 100 all very different .
Unfortunately based on the epidemiologist I heard share info on this, this news isn't as "huge" as it seems. There is a difference between PRE-symptomatic and asymptomatic cases. Asymptomatic cases may not spread it as much, but there is evidence that people do spread it when PRE-symptomatic which is more the concern and why it's been harder to keep in control of. so pre-symptomatic is the few days before someone becomes symptomatic. So that is still a concern and not solved.
+1
I've read a lot of epidemiologists who are not satisfied with the WHO's findings, in part for that reason. If pre-symptomatic people are contagious, then we're still at square one.
This is not surprising. Presymptomatic spread is also common with the flu and many other viral diseases. It's nothing unique to Covid.
And most kids are asymptomatic. If asymptomatic spread turns out to be rare, this news should absolutely affect our policies regarding schools.
It's not rare. That was taken out of context and roundly rejected by experts.
Anonymous wrote:What coronavirus? That’s old. The American public has forgotten about that!! Americans have short memories. Even if you watch the news, CV doesn’t come up until 15 minutes after the start. Americans are getting out, back to work and making money. There are no more daily news conferences- VA, MD, Trump/Fauci/Birx, and has Bowser had a CV update lately?? I predict you’ll start seeing stories of less transmission and more recovery rates (with evidence based on recent protests), phases of reopening occurring and all will be forgotten by Fall. Once sports get back started and TV Is live again, you will hear jokes about remembering CV. All of these plastic shields, 6 foot barrier and masks required signs will disappear too! I’m not saying that CV is gone away but reporting and it’s coverage will change really soon. Kids will be in school in September maybe October at the latest but life has to go on.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WHO now says asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is "very rare."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
They will be open inperson on September 1. Full normality second half of the year. This news is huge.
And yet cases are raising all over the country. Maybe by people that identified as having little or no symptoms. Now idk if they didn't recognize their own mild symptoms or not. But it is back on the raise and WHO said it would likely die down for summer. So, not putting a lot of weight in this new idea. They also gave no context for "rare" 1 in 5, 1 in 10, 1 in 100 all very different .
Unfortunately based on the epidemiologist I heard share info on this, this news isn't as "huge" as it seems. There is a difference between PRE-symptomatic and asymptomatic cases. Asymptomatic cases may not spread it as much, but there is evidence that people do spread it when PRE-symptomatic which is more the concern and why it's been harder to keep in control of. so pre-symptomatic is the few days before someone becomes symptomatic. So that is still a concern and not solved.
+1
I've read a lot of epidemiologists who are not satisfied with the WHO's findings, in part for that reason. If pre-symptomatic people are contagious, then we're still at square one.
This is not surprising. Presymptomatic spread is also common with the flu and many other viral diseases. It's nothing unique to Covid.
And most kids are asymptomatic. If asymptomatic spread turns out to be rare, this news should absolutely affect our policies regarding schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What coronavirus? That’s old. The American public has forgotten about that!! Americans have short memories. Even if you watch the news, CV doesn’t come up until 15 minutes after the start. Americans are getting out, back to work and making money. There are no more daily news conferences- VA, MD, Trump/Fauci/Birx, and has Bowser had a CV update lately?? I predict you’ll start seeing stories of less transmission and more recovery rates (with evidence based on recent protests), phases of reopening occurring and all will be forgotten by Fall. Once sports get back started and TV Is live again, you will hear jokes about remembering CV. All of these plastic shields, 6 foot barrier and masks required signs will disappear too! I’m not saying that CV is gone away but reporting and it’s coverage will change really soon. Kids will be in school in September maybe October at the latest but life has to go on. [/quote
I agree this is what is happening right now, but I'm not convinced that it isn't going to lead to a serious increase in cases. If death rates go way up, I do think people will notice it again.
The mayor has continued to do daily coronavirus briefings (here's yesterday's). The media has lost interesthttps://mayor.dc.gov/release/mayor-bowser-delivers-coronavirus-situational-report-friday-may-8-2020
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WHO now says asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is "very rare."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
They will be open inperson on September 1. Full normality second half of the year. This news is huge.
And yet cases are raising all over the country. Maybe by people that identified as having little or no symptoms. Now idk if they didn't recognize their own mild symptoms or not. But it is back on the raise and WHO said it would likely die down for summer. So, not putting a lot of weight in this new idea. They also gave no context for "rare" 1 in 5, 1 in 10, 1 in 100 all very different .
Unfortunately based on the epidemiologist I heard share info on this, this news isn't as "huge" as it seems. There is a difference between PRE-symptomatic and asymptomatic cases. Asymptomatic cases may not spread it as much, but there is evidence that people do spread it when PRE-symptomatic which is more the concern and why it's been harder to keep in control of. so pre-symptomatic is the few days before someone becomes symptomatic. So that is still a concern and not solved.
+1
I've read a lot of epidemiologists who are not satisfied with the WHO's findings, in part for that reason. If pre-symptomatic people are contagious, then we're still at square one.
This is not surprising. Presymptomatic spread is also common with the flu and many other viral diseases. It's nothing unique to Covid.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WHO now says asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is "very rare."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
They will be open inperson on September 1. Full normality second half of the year. This news is huge.
And yet cases are raising all over the country. Maybe by people that identified as having little or no symptoms. Now idk if they didn't recognize their own mild symptoms or not. But it is back on the raise and WHO said it would likely die down for summer. So, not putting a lot of weight in this new idea. They also gave no context for "rare" 1 in 5, 1 in 10, 1 in 100 all very different .
Unfortunately based on the epidemiologist I heard share info on this, this news isn't as "huge" as it seems. There is a difference between PRE-symptomatic and asymptomatic cases. Asymptomatic cases may not spread it as much, but there is evidence that people do spread it when PRE-symptomatic which is more the concern and why it's been harder to keep in control of. so pre-symptomatic is the few days before someone becomes symptomatic. So that is still a concern and not solved.
+1
I've read a lot of epidemiologists who are not satisfied with the WHO's findings, in part for that reason. If pre-symptomatic people are contagious, then we're still at square one.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WHO now says asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is "very rare."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
They will be open inperson on September 1. Full normality second half of the year. This news is huge.
The news actually makes zero difference. For one it is called into question by many experts. But even assuming it’s true, it’s not
Helpful. It says ASYMPTOMATIC cases rarely spread the disease- those are the cases we never hear about and are rarely counted for in our numbers. But this doesn’t effect what the CDC found just two weeks ago - that 40% of transmissions occur BEFORE symptoms, so not just talking about asymptomatics here. This is the critical factor that makes opening up schools (and other places) difficult. A huge percentage of transmissions occur before anyone even had a
Symptom - so screenings and focusing on quarantine the sick only is not going to be effective to prevent or sufficiently mitigate the spread.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WHO now says asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is "very rare."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
They will be open inperson on September 1. Full normality second half of the year. This news is huge.
And yet cases are raising all over the country. Maybe by people that identified as having little or no symptoms. Now idk if they didn't recognize their own mild symptoms or not. But it is back on the raise and WHO said it would likely die down for summer. So, not putting a lot of weight in this new idea. They also gave no context for "rare" 1 in 5, 1 in 10, 1 in 100 all very different .
Unfortunately based on the epidemiologist I heard share info on this, this news isn't as "huge" as it seems. There is a difference between PRE-symptomatic and asymptomatic cases. Asymptomatic cases may not spread it as much, but there is evidence that people do spread it when PRE-symptomatic which is more the concern and why it's been harder to keep in control of. so pre-symptomatic is the few days before someone becomes symptomatic. So that is still a concern and not solved.