Anonymous wrote:MJ is OG of cancel culture. He is a man who the media tried multiple times to destroy.

I suggest watching Neverland documentary. Michael Jackson is a pedo and destroyed lives.

Loved MJ since first grade and I 'Won't stop till I get Enough"

I also enjoy Gone With the Wind, never liked the Cosby show but loved Fat Albert.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m repulsed by the idea of him ever since the Leaving Neverland documentary. I believe those men, who were tortured by him as children, and I will never listen to his music voluntarily again.

I don’t believe those men, and I make it a point to listen to Jackson’s music because I think he was wrongly cancelled by society.

If you discovered that they are telling the truth would that change anything for you?

How would we discover they were telling the truth? It’s their word against a dead man. That’s why he hasn’t been canceled. That’s why they still play his music on the radio, in movies and in stores. MJ following is too big to cancel him over two random men who claim abuse after he is already dead. Even when he was alive people still overlooked the abuse allegations.

Say that video evidence came out that proved it without a doubt.

Would that change anything for you?

Change what? He’s still dead. Do I believe he is a creepy man? Absolutely. Do I believe sh*tty parents were basically his accomplices? Absolutely. But I also thought he was questionable when the very first allegations came out in the 90s. This new documentary didn’t make me question him anymore than I already did bc, he’s dead.

So, it doesn’t matter to you one way or another if MJ sexually abused children? You will play his music no matter what because you think he was “wrongly cancelled by society”?

He wasn’t canceled by society. He was canceled by you and a few others who need a documentary to make decisions. If you didn’t care in the 90s, idk why you pretend to care now. Idk if he sexually abused children. I believe he is odd and spent way too much time with children, whose parents offered them up on a silver platter. Waiting for someone to die to attack them doesn’t convince me of much. I listen to his music bc I enjoy it.

You still haven’t answered - if you knew for sure that he sexually abused kids would you continue to listen to him?

You asked if it would change anything, not if someone would continue to listen to him. Be clear about your intentions. How would I know for sure? You mean if a clear video came out with him abusing children would I stop listening to him? Probably but, I won’t know until that imaginary video comes out. We know that all it takes for you to jump on a bandwagon is a documentary after someone is already dead.

I asked if it would change anything for you.

And you seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me. Why is that?

“I’m repulsed by the idea of him ever since the Leaving Neverland documentary. I believe those men, who were tortured by him as children, and I will never listen to his music voluntarily again.“

My bad. I should have said DP earlier on the thread.

Girl, bye

Ok, pedophile lover

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Anonymous wrote:I’m repulsed by the idea of him ever since the Leaving Neverland documentary. I believe those men, who were tortured by him as children, and I will never listen to his music voluntarily again.

I don’t believe those men, and I make it a point to listen to Jackson’s music because I think he was wrongly cancelled by society.

I don't know what to believe but the man is not here to defend these allegations, so there is still doubt as to what happened.

He didn’t do a convincing job of refuting the allegations when he was here to defend himself.

But he did go to court and he was found not guilty on all accounts. One of the (recent) accusers testified under oath that nothing happened--so was he telling the truth then or now?

Every year our elementary uses I believe I can fly in some compilation video, I'm not mad.

He fit a template, psychologically, behaviorally, emotionally that matched sexual offenders. That is well documented and while no one can know for sure except those involved, I guess, as someone who worked with court ordered sexual offenders yes he struck me as familiar and classic and he was enormously manipulative. I don't listen to him anymore. He needed treatment as a boy as most of them do. His own abuse history is deeply, sad.

There are some sick f@cks on DCUM this weekend. Usually, it’s just racists spouting off, but now it’s pedophile apologists.

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Anonymous wrote:MJ abused boys 8-14 years old. He was done with them by the time they went through puberty. He was a pedophile.

This is also why I can’t watch The Cosby Show anymore, even though it is a great show.

MJs music is great. He was rich and his family will be rich forever. He is still a pedophile and to listen to him now, after the documentary, only reminds me of that, so I change the channel now. The end.

+1. I don't get how he wasn't cancelled AS this was happening. This is an example where I don't understand how people continue to be ok with a person. MJ, RKelly, Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter, Hitler. Everyone has accomplishments, but they don't outweigh damage done.

Bc it could never be proven without a shadow of doubt. A lot of the families took money over protecting and fighting for their kids. If their owns parents didn’t care, you can’t expect society to care.

And even with this public knowledge parents still kept sending their kids to Neverland.

Not to derail the thread but part of living in a society is the care about the endangerment of children even when their parents don't care.

Then society should’ve fought harder if they believed the allegations. It’s clear money was a motive and society didn’t care.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m repulsed by the idea of him ever since the Leaving Neverland documentary. I believe those men, who were tortured by him as children, and I will never listen to his music voluntarily again.

I don’t believe those men, and I make it a point to listen to Jackson’s music because I think he was wrongly cancelled by society.

If you discovered that they are telling the truth would that change anything for you?

How would we discover they were telling the truth? It’s their word against a dead man. That’s why he hasn’t been canceled. That’s why they still play his music on the radio, in movies and in stores. MJ following is too big to cancel him over two random men who claim abuse after he is already dead. Even when he was alive people still overlooked the abuse allegations.

Say that video evidence came out that proved it without a doubt.

Would that change anything for you?

Change what? He’s still dead. Do I believe he is a creepy man? Absolutely. Do I believe sh*tty parents were basically his accomplices? Absolutely. But I also thought he was questionable when the very first allegations came out in the 90s. This new documentary didn’t make me question him anymore than I already did bc, he’s dead.

So, it doesn’t matter to you one way or another if MJ sexually abused children? You will play his music no matter what because you think he was “wrongly cancelled by society”?

He wasn’t canceled by society. He was canceled by you and a few others who need a documentary to make decisions. If you didn’t care in the 90s, idk why you pretend to care now. Idk if he sexually abused children. I believe he is odd and spent way too much time with children, whose parents offered them up on a silver platter. Waiting for someone to die to attack them doesn’t convince me of much. I listen to his music bc I enjoy it.

You still haven’t answered - if you knew for sure that he sexually abused kids would you continue to listen to him?

You asked if it would change anything, not if someone would continue to listen to him. Be clear about your intentions. How would I know for sure? You mean if a clear video came out with him abusing children would I stop listening to him? Probably but, I won’t know until that imaginary video comes out. We know that all it takes for you to jump on a bandwagon is a documentary after someone is already dead.

I asked if it would change anything for you.

And you seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me. Why is that?

“I’m repulsed by the idea of him ever since the Leaving Neverland documentary. I believe those men, who were tortured by him as children, and I will never listen to his music voluntarily again.“

My bad. I should have said DP earlier on the thread.

Girl, bye

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Anonymous wrote:I’m repulsed by the idea of him ever since the Leaving Neverland documentary. I believe those men, who were tortured by him as children, and I will never listen to his music voluntarily again.

I don’t believe those men, and I make it a point to listen to Jackson’s music because I think he was wrongly cancelled by society.

If you discovered that they are telling the truth would that change anything for you?

How would we discover they were telling the truth? It’s their word against a dead man. That’s why he hasn’t been canceled. That’s why they still play his music on the radio, in movies and in stores. MJ following is too big to cancel him over two random men who claim abuse after he is already dead. Even when he was alive people still overlooked the abuse allegations.

Say that video evidence came out that proved it without a doubt.

Would that change anything for you?

Change what? He’s still dead. Do I believe he is a creepy man? Absolutely. Do I believe sh*tty parents were basically his accomplices? Absolutely. But I also thought he was questionable when the very first allegations came out in the 90s. This new documentary didn’t make me question him anymore than I already did bc, he’s dead.

So, it doesn’t matter to you one way or another if MJ sexually abused children? You will play his music no matter what because you think he was “wrongly cancelled by society”?

He wasn’t canceled by society. He was canceled by you and a few others who need a documentary to make decisions. If you didn’t care in the 90s, idk why you pretend to care now. Idk if he sexually abused children. I believe he is odd and spent way too much time with children, whose parents offered them up on a silver platter. Waiting for someone to die to attack them doesn’t convince me of much. I listen to his music bc I enjoy it.

You still haven’t answered - if you knew for sure that he sexually abused kids would you continue to listen to him?

You asked if it would change anything, not if someone would continue to listen to him. Be clear about your intentions. How would I know for sure? You mean if a clear video came out with him abusing children would I stop listening to him? Probably but, I won’t know until that imaginary video comes out. We know that all it takes for you to jump on a bandwagon is a documentary after someone is already dead.

I asked if it would change anything for you.

And you seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me. Why is that?

“I’m repulsed by the idea of him ever since the Leaving Neverland documentary. I believe those men, who were tortured by him as children, and I will never listen to his music voluntarily again.“

My bad. I should have said DP earlier on the thread.

Anonymous wrote:I was a teenager from 1980-1989. I was never a fan and don’t recall even liking his songs or albums or videos much beyond Thriller era.

He just wasn’t “cool” or even someone teenagers really liked BITD. His fan base skewed younger ...and we know exactly why.

Agree.

I was a few years younger than you and liked MJ in middle school (Thriller), but wasn’t into him at all in HS.

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Anonymous wrote:MJ abused boys 8-14 years old. He was done with them by the time they went through puberty. He was a pedophile.

This is also why I can’t watch The Cosby Show anymore, even though it is a great show.

MJs music is great. He was rich and his family will be rich forever. He is still a pedophile and to listen to him now, after the documentary, only reminds me of that, so I change the channel now. The end.

+1. I don't get how he wasn't cancelled AS this was happening. This is an example where I don't understand how people continue to be ok with a person. MJ, RKelly, Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter, Hitler. Everyone has accomplishments, but they don't outweigh damage done.

Bc it could never be proven without a shadow of doubt. A lot of the families took money over protecting and fighting for their kids. If their owns parents didn’t care, you can’t expect society to care.

And even with this public knowledge parents still kept sending their kids to Neverland.

Not to derail the thread but part of living in a society is the care about the endangerment of children even when their parents don't care.

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Anonymous wrote:MJ abused boys 8-14 years old. He was done with them by the time they went through puberty. He was a pedophile.

This is also why I can’t watch The Cosby Show anymore, even though it is a great show.

MJs music is great. He was rich and his family will be rich forever. He is still a pedophile and to listen to him now, after the documentary, only reminds me of that, so I change the channel now. The end.

+1. I don't get how he wasn't cancelled AS this was happening. This is an example where I don't understand how people continue to be ok with a person. MJ, RKelly, Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter, Hitler. Everyone has accomplishments, but they don't outweigh damage done.

Bc it could never be proven without a shadow of doubt. A lot of the families took money over protecting and fighting for their kids. If their owns parents didn’t care, you can’t expect society to care.

And even with this public knowledge parents still kept sending their kids to Neverland.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m repulsed by the idea of him ever since the Leaving Neverland documentary. I believe those men, who were tortured by him as children, and I will never listen to his music voluntarily again.

I don’t believe those men, and I make it a point to listen to Jackson’s music because I think he was wrongly cancelled by society.

If you discovered that they are telling the truth would that change anything for you?

How would we discover they were telling the truth? It’s their word against a dead man. That’s why he hasn’t been canceled. That’s why they still play his music on the radio, in movies and in stores. MJ following is too big to cancel him over two random men who claim abuse after he is already dead. Even when he was alive people still overlooked the abuse allegations.

Say that video evidence came out that proved it without a doubt.

Would that change anything for you?

Change what? He’s still dead. Do I believe he is a creepy man? Absolutely. Do I believe sh*tty parents were basically his accomplices? Absolutely. But I also thought he was questionable when the very first allegations came out in the 90s. This new documentary didn’t make me question him anymore than I already did bc, he’s dead.

So, it doesn’t matter to you one way or another if MJ sexually abused children? You will play his music no matter what because you think he was “wrongly cancelled by society”?

He wasn’t canceled by society. He was canceled by you and a few others who need a documentary to make decisions. If you didn’t care in the 90s, idk why you pretend to care now. Idk if he sexually abused children. I believe he is odd and spent way too much time with children, whose parents offered them up on a silver platter. Waiting for someone to die to attack them doesn’t convince me of much. I listen to his music bc I enjoy it.

You still haven’t answered - if you knew for sure that he sexually abused kids would you continue to listen to him?

You asked if it would change anything, not if someone would continue to listen to him. Be clear about your intentions. How would I know for sure? You mean if a clear video came out with him abusing children would I stop listening to him? Probably but, I won’t know until that imaginary video comes out. We know that all it takes for you to jump on a bandwagon is a documentary after someone is already dead.

I asked if it would change anything for you.

And you seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me. Why is that?

“I’m repulsed by the idea of him ever since the Leaving Neverland documentary. I believe those men, who were tortured by him as children, and I will never listen to his music voluntarily again.“