Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My company has done this for years. We have a mix of onsite and remote workers. Remote workers salaries are based on their actual physical location and not the office that their business unit or team is technically assigned to.Being able to go from onsite to remote is a privilege that comes with costs.

It doesn't make full sense as both are doing the same job except the company is saving a lot of money not having desks/spaces for staff. My husband has an office space and rarely uses it. Maybe a few times a month. Its a huge waste of money. Better giving that to employees or better equipment to work at home.

Anonymous wrote:Sounds perfectly reasonable.

Anonymous wrote:My company has done this for years. We have a mix of onsite and remote workers. Remote workers salaries are based on their actual physical location and not the office that their business unit or team is technically assigned to.Being able to go from onsite to remote is a privilege that comes with costs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is going to create some very weird incentives to hack the cheapest location that still pays full salary. Like the furthered out SV/DC/NY suburb.

If appraisal companies can accurately pinpoint a house's value in say...Chantilly vs Arlington or Westchester vs Manhattan, what makes you think Facebook - which has access to everyone's data - won't be do the same for further out suburbs down to the mile?

As for Silicon Valley - people are already living at 2 hour commutes away from the Facebook hub just to pay for the privilege of a $600,000 SFH.

They deserve full pay. The remote WFH will probably lose access to facebook office benefits and a pay cut if they are not coming into the office certain days of the week.

Here's what the COL in Dixon, California (a SV suburb with a 2-hour commute) looks like -

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/pr-rep-commutes-4-hours-every-day-to-avoid-45000-dollar-san-francisco-rent.html

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/965-Bounds-Dr-95620/home/2433372

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/2240-Mariposa-Dr-95620/home/2620889

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/510-W-Cherry-St-95620/home/144147159

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/241-S-1st-St-95620/home/2437703

I highly doubt the pay calculations will be according to home value. That level of granularity frankly will lead to discrimination lawsuits.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is going to create some very weird incentives to hack the cheapest location that still pays full salary. Like the furthered out SV/DC/NY suburb.

If appraisal companies can accurately pinpoint a house's value in say...Chantilly vs Arlington or Westchester vs Manhattan, what makes you think Facebook - which has access to everyone's data - won't be do the same for further out suburbs down to the mile?

As for Silicon Valley - people are already living at 2 hour commutes away from the Facebook hub just to pay for the privilege of a $600,000 SFH.

They deserve full pay. The remote WFH will probably lose access to facebook office benefits and a pay cut if they are not coming into the office certain days of the week.

Here's what the COL in Dixon, California (a SV suburb with a 2-hour commute) looks like -

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/pr-rep-commutes-4-hours-every-day-to-avoid-45000-dollar-san-francisco-rent.html

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/965-Bounds-Dr-95620/home/2433372

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/2240-Mariposa-Dr-95620/home/2620889

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/510-W-Cherry-St-95620/home/144147159

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/241-S-1st-St-95620/home/2437703

I highly doubt the pay calculations will be according to home value. That level of granularity frankly will lead to discrimination lawsuits.

I wasn't saying it was. Although that is factored into COLA adjustments. I just don't think you can 'hack' Facebook COLA's calculator by living in Haymarket and claiming a Washington, D.C. price tag.

They'll know.

If they pay me less to live in PG vs MoCo they are going to get sued. And lose. Quickly.

Let's see - close in counties vs say...living in Shady Side, MD - yeah makes sense that you'd point out very close-in communities.

If you're so afraid, don't work for a tech company and try to ask for full salary while remotely WFH in the middle of nowhere. Problem solved.

Anonymous wrote:Not fair. I left DC when daycare closed (many thanks to my family) but I'm still paying rent on my DC apartment and tuition to my closed DC daycare, so expenses haven't gone down very much.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is going to create some very weird incentives to hack the cheapest location that still pays full salary. Like the furthered out SV/DC/NY suburb.

If appraisal companies can accurately pinpoint a house's value in say...Chantilly vs Arlington or Westchester vs Manhattan, what makes you think Facebook - which has access to everyone's data - won't be do the same for further out suburbs down to the mile?

As for Silicon Valley - people are already living at 2 hour commutes away from the Facebook hub just to pay for the privilege of a $600,000 SFH.

They deserve full pay. The remote WFH will probably lose access to facebook office benefits and a pay cut if they are not coming into the office certain days of the week.

Here's what the COL in Dixon, California (a SV suburb with a 2-hour commute) looks like -

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/pr-rep-commutes-4-hours-every-day-to-avoid-45000-dollar-san-francisco-rent.html

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/965-Bounds-Dr-95620/home/2433372

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/2240-Mariposa-Dr-95620/home/2620889

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/510-W-Cherry-St-95620/home/144147159

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/241-S-1st-St-95620/home/2437703

I highly doubt the pay calculations will be according to home value. That level of granularity frankly will lead to discrimination lawsuits.

I wasn't saying it was. Although that is factored into COLA adjustments. I just don't think you can 'hack' Facebook COLA's calculator by living in Haymarket and claiming a Washington, D.C. price tag.

They'll know.

If they pay me less to live in PG vs MoCo they are going to get sued. And lose. Quickly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is going to create some very weird incentives to hack the cheapest location that still pays full salary. Like the furthered out SV/DC/NY suburb.

If appraisal companies can accurately pinpoint a house's value in say...Chantilly vs Arlington or Westchester vs Manhattan, what makes you think Facebook - which has access to everyone's data - won't be do the same for further out suburbs down to the mile?

As for Silicon Valley - people are already living at 2 hour commutes away from the Facebook hub just to pay for the privilege of a $600,000 SFH.

They deserve full pay. The remote WFH will probably lose access to facebook office benefits and a pay cut if they are not coming into the office certain days of the week.

Here's what the COL in Dixon, California (a SV suburb with a 2-hour commute) looks like -

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/pr-rep-commutes-4-hours-every-day-to-avoid-45000-dollar-san-francisco-rent.html

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/965-Bounds-Dr-95620/home/2433372

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/2240-Mariposa-Dr-95620/home/2620889

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/510-W-Cherry-St-95620/home/144147159

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/241-S-1st-St-95620/home/2437703

I highly doubt the pay calculations will be according to home value. That level of granularity frankly will lead to discrimination lawsuits.

I wasn't saying it was. Although that is factored into COLA adjustments. I just don't think you can 'hack' Facebook COLA's calculator by living in Haymarket and claiming a Washington, D.C. price tag.

They'll know.

If they pay me less to live in PG vs MoCo they are going to get sued. And lose. Quickly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is going to create some very weird incentives to hack the cheapest location that still pays full salary. Like the furthered out SV/DC/NY suburb.

If appraisal companies can accurately pinpoint a house's value in say...Chantilly vs Arlington or Westchester vs Manhattan, what makes you think Facebook - which has access to everyone's data - won't be do the same for further out suburbs down to the mile?

As for Silicon Valley - people are already living at 2 hour commutes away from the Facebook hub just to pay for the privilege of a $600,000 SFH.

They deserve full pay. The remote WFH will probably lose access to facebook office benefits and a pay cut if they are not coming into the office certain days of the week.

Here's what the COL in Dixon, California (a SV suburb with a 2-hour commute) looks like -

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/pr-rep-commutes-4-hours-every-day-to-avoid-45000-dollar-san-francisco-rent.html

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/965-Bounds-Dr-95620/home/2433372

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/2240-Mariposa-Dr-95620/home/2620889

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/510-W-Cherry-St-95620/home/144147159

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/241-S-1st-St-95620/home/2437703

I highly doubt the pay calculations will be according to home value. That level of granularity frankly will lead to discrimination lawsuits.

I wasn't saying it was. Although that is factored into COLA adjustments. I just don't think you can 'hack' Facebook COLA's calculator by living in Haymarket and claiming a Washington, D.C. price tag.

They'll know.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is going to create some very weird incentives to hack the cheapest location that still pays full salary. Like the furthered out SV/DC/NY suburb.

If appraisal companies can accurately pinpoint a house's value in say...Chantilly vs Arlington or Westchester vs Manhattan, what makes you think Facebook - which has access to everyone's data - won't be do the same for further out suburbs down to the mile?

As for Silicon Valley - people are already living at 2 hour commutes away from the Facebook hub just to pay for the privilege of a $600,000 SFH.

They deserve full pay. The remote WFH will probably lose access to facebook office benefits and a pay cut if they are not coming into the office certain days of the week.

Here's what the COL in Dixon, California (a SV suburb with a 2-hour commute) looks like -

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/pr-rep-commutes-4-hours-every-day-to-avoid-45000-dollar-san-francisco-rent.html

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/965-Bounds-Dr-95620/home/2433372

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/2240-Mariposa-Dr-95620/home/2620889

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/510-W-Cherry-St-95620/home/144147159

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/241-S-1st-St-95620/home/2437703

I highly doubt the pay calculations will be according to home value. That level of granularity frankly will lead to discrimination lawsuits.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is going to create some very weird incentives to hack the cheapest location that still pays full salary. Like the furthered out SV/DC/NY suburb.

If appraisal companies can accurately pinpoint a house's value in say...Chantilly vs Arlington or Westchester vs Manhattan, what makes you think Facebook - which has access to everyone's data - won't be do the same for further out suburbs down to the mile?

As for Silicon Valley - people are already living at 2 hour commutes away from the Facebook hub just to pay for the privilege of a $600,000 SFH.

They deserve full pay. The remote WFH will probably lose access to facebook office benefits and a pay cut if they are not coming into the office certain days of the week.

Here's what the COL in Dixon, California (a SV suburb with a 2-hour commute) looks like -

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/pr-rep-commutes-4-hours-every-day-to-avoid-45000-dollar-san-francisco-rent.html

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/965-Bounds-Dr-95620/home/2433372

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/2240-Mariposa-Dr-95620/home/2620889

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/510-W-Cherry-St-95620/home/144147159

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Dixon/241-S-1st-St-95620/home/2437703

Anonymous wrote:This is industry standard in the tech world. And, within tech very few people argue with it because you make out better in the lower cola areas. So for example, DC is a TIer 1 city. You make the highest amount here. But move to Scottsdale, which is 33% less cola and a Tier 3 city, and you only make 20% less with most companies. So the outrage here is insane to me.