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Anonymous wrote:ECNL added 15 clubs this spring.

Good clubs to be sure but that is also 270 more players per age group. That is nearly 2000 kids per age group.

Again the entire league was just 900 kids. The league essentially, in one spring added nearly a third of what was once it’s entire player pool.

It is now just a showcasing platform that for most kids is no longer particularly difficult to make a team anymore.

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You lack experience and want a system that would cost $12,000 per family and trips on plans to play league games. Not only is it stupid, its wrong and not sustainable. On top of that, a closed elite system with limited resources to the vast population would only shrink the pool. You are under the impression that only 700 girls in the nation are worth developing and that development should be paid for by the parents at the same cost as a private school. You don't understand RAE, puberty, ups and downs, etc. Almost 100 percent of elite teams don't look anything like they did when they were U9-13. You have a lot to learn. How old is your kid. Tell us about your skin in the game. Tell us about your experience with navigating US soccer.

You are living in the past, I’m living in the now and what will be.

There are now over 2000 kids per age group in ECNL. There are nearly 30 more clubs in ECNL over the past two years. NPL’s are being converted to ECNL RL’s with the ability to earn showcase opportunities.

You cannot deny the aggressive ECNL expansion and the watering down affect it will have.

With 4000 to 6000 recruiting age kids per national showcase how much real bang for the buck is there? If you’re not at a Champions League field good luck getting looked at by tons of schools on the sideline.

The “elite ness” is what parents are paying for. And it gets worse if college programs take a hit and can’t send assistant coaches. How do you filter through 6,000 players across multiple locations?

Simple, you ignore the lower tier showcase games.

Anonymous wrote:ECNL added 15 clubs this spring.

Good clubs to be sure but that is also 270 more players per age group. That is nearly 2000 kids per age group.

Again the entire league was just 900 kids. The league essentially, in one spring added nearly a third of what was once it’s entire player pool.

It is now just a showcasing platform that for most kids is no longer particularly difficult to make a team anymore.

You mean "this spring" as in when the USSF give everyone the middle finger? You mean "this spring" when ECNL added some of the (as you say) "Elite" clubs in the nation? You mean "this spring" ECNL grew as a result of USSF incompetency?

Cool. Already knew that

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL added 15 clubs this spring.

Good clubs to be sure but that is also 270 more players per age group. That is nearly 2000 kids per age group.

Again the entire league was just 900 kids. The league essentially, in one spring added nearly a third of what was once it’s entire player pool.

It is now just a showcasing platform that for most kids is no longer particularly difficult to make a team anymore.

Again
Again
Again

You lack experience and want a system that would cost $12,000 per family and trips on plans to play league games. Not only is it stupid, its wrong and not sustainable. On top of that, a closed elite system with limited resources to the vast population would only shrink the pool. You are under the impression that only 700 girls in the nation are worth developing and that development should be paid for by the parents at the same cost as a private school. You don't understand RAE, puberty, ups and downs, etc. Almost 100 percent of elite teams don't look anything like they did when they were U9-13. You have a lot to learn. How old is your kid. Tell us about your skin in the game. Tell us about your experience with navigating US soccer.

You mean "this spring" as in when the USSF give everyone the middle finger? You mean "this spring" when ECNL added some of the (as you say) "Elite" clubs in the nation? You mean "this spring" ECNL grew as a result of USSF incompetency?

Cool. Already knew that

Anonymous wrote:ECNL added 15 clubs this spring.

Good clubs to be sure but that is also 270 more players per age group. That is nearly 2000 kids per age group.

Again the entire league was just 900 kids. The league essentially, in one spring added nearly a third of what was once it’s entire player pool.

It is now just a showcasing platform that for most kids is no longer particularly difficult to make a team anymore.

Again
Again
Again

You lack experience and want a system that would cost $12,000 per family and trips on plans to play league games. Not only is it stupid, its wrong and not sustainable. On top of that, a closed elite system with limited resources to the vast population would only shrink the pool. You are under the impression that only 700 girls in the nation are worth developing and that development should be paid for by the parents at the same cost as a private school. You don't understand RAE, puberty, ups and downs, etc. Almost 100 percent of elite teams don't look anything like they did when they were U9-13. You have a lot to learn. How old is your kid. Tell us about your skin in the game. Tell us about your experience with navigating US soccer.

Anonymous wrote:Let me break that down for you stat guy
2013: 73 clubs
2014: 76 clubs
2015: 76 clubs
2016: 79 clubs
2017:84 clubs
ALL PRIOR TO DA
2018:80 clubs (DA STARTS / ECNL Shrinked)
2019: 89 clubs (9 clubs added)

2013- 1300 players per age group

2020-2021- 2000

ECNL added 15 clubs this spring.

Good clubs to be sure but that is also 270 more players per age group. That is nearly 2000 kids per age group.

Again the entire league was just 900 kids. The league essentially, in one spring added nearly a third of what was once it’s entire player pool.

It is now just a showcasing platform that for most kids is no longer particularly difficult to make a team anymore.

Let me break that down for you stat guy
2013: 73 clubs
2014: 76 clubs
2015: 76 clubs
2016: 79 clubs
2017:84 clubs
ALL PRIOR TO DA
2018:80 clubs (DA STARTS / ECNL Shrinked)
2019: 89 clubs (9 clubs added)

History

The ECNL was founded in 2009 by forward-thinking Directors of Coaching across the country who saw a need for change in and special commitment to improving the daily environment for American elite female youth soccer players. These Directors came together and collaborated to build what would become the top female youth development platform in the world. The grass roots leadership and cooperation was unprecedented in American youth soccer, and the ECNL continues to be the most progressive and innovative development platform in the country.

2009-2010: Inaugural ECNL Season
The inaugural ECNL season, August 2009 to July 2010, included 40 of the top girls soccer clubs throughout the country, with more than 2,000 players participating in ECNL competition in the U15, U16, and U17 age groups. Teams competed in one of two competitive flights (the “A Flight” or the “B Flight”) for the ECNL National Championship, the ECNL Club National Championship, and promotion and relegation between the flights. Each team played nine regular season games within their division for placement going into the ECNL National Championship. Games were played at five different ECNL National Showcase Events held throughout the country, and all participating teams came together for the first annual ECNL National Championship in Seattle, WA in July 2010.

2010-2011
In its second season, 2010-11, the ECNL saw several changes. The ECNL added twelve of the top girls clubs from around the country, bringing the total number of ECNL member clubs to 52, and expanded to include the U18 age group. Each of the 52 member clubs had an ECNL team in the U15 through U18 age groups. In total, each team played roughly 16 games. The ECNL schedule expanded to include regional competition to supplement the existing ECNL National Showcase Events, and the ECNL National Championships were held in Aurora, CO in July. By adding more age groups and more high-quality ECNL games, the ECNL took steps that allowed the member clubs to increase the quality of games played while reducing the overall number of games on their calendar, increase the training time for their players, and expand the developmental opportunities provided by this platform into more age groups.

2011-2012
In the third season, 2011-12, the ECNL again expanded to include the nation’s elite 66 female soccer clubs, an enhanced scouting and player identification structure, accessible club administrative, coaching, and scouting education opportunities, and an improved season structure that includes the U14 age group. Most importantly, the ECNL expanded the competition platform to approximately 30 games per team. By focusing solely on the elite competition within the ECNL, these clubs will be able to provide an improved environment with a better training-to-game ratio and more demanding and consistent competition. The 2011-12 ECNL season has three parts which provide the competitive platform for over 5,000 games to be played:

1- ECNL Conference and Cross-Conference Competitions;
2- ECNL National Event Competitions; and
3- ECNL National Championships.

2012-2013
In the fourth season of the ECNL, 2012-13, signs began to show that the league was maturing and getting close to its full size. Expansion was limited, as only 7 clubs were added to reach a total of 73 clubs. Conference play became the dominant portion of the ECNL schedule, with conference results determining qualification for the ECNL post-season. This was a change from previous seasons. The top 32 teams in the ECNL, based on conference games and limited wildcards, qualified for the ECNL Champions League post-season playoffs. The next best 32 teams in the ECNL qualified for the ECNL North American Cup play-offs. Both play-offs were contested in Aurora, CO, with the top 8 teams in each competition qualifying for the ECNL Finals. The inaugural ECNL Finals were played in Richmond, VA where the winners of the ECNL Champions League were crowned the ECNL National Champions. The winners of the ECNL North American Cup were crowned Cup Champions.

2013-2014
In the fifth season, 2013-14, the ECNL experienced a small expansion, with only 3 clubs added to bring the total number of ECNL member clubs to 76. While there was limited conference re-alignment, the competition structure generally remained the same as the 2012-2013 season. The 2014 ECNL Playoffs (where the Champions League and North American Cup qualifiers will compete) were played in Seattle, WA in late June – bringing the league full circle to its humble beginnings in 2009. The winners of each playoff group advanced to the ECNL Finals, again held in Richmond, VA.

2014-2015
In the sixth season, 2014-15, the competition structure changed with the additions of the Showcase Cup, rounding out the ECNL Playoffs with three tiers: Champions League, North American Cup and Showcase Cup. The Champions League structure remained the same as years past, while both the North American Cup and Showcase Cup were set up as knockout style brackets, with 16 teams competing in each for a chance to be crowned champion in Seattle, WA. The winners of each playoff group in the Champions League advanced to the ECNL Finals, held in Richmond, VA for the third year.

2015-2016
In the seventh season, 2015-16, the ECNL expanded to 79 member clubs, with limited conference re-alignment. The competition structure remained the same for the ECNL Playoffs with three tiers: Champions League, North American Cup and Showcase Cup. The Champions League structure changed slightly with the addition of the quarterfinal game at the ECNL Playoffs, while both the North American Cup and Showcase Cup stayed the same with knockout style brackets, with 16 teams competing in each for a chance to be crowned champion in Oceanside, CA. The winners of each quarterfinal game in the Champions League advanced to the ECNL Final Four, held in Germantown, MD.

2016-2017
In the eighth season, 2016-17, the ECNL expanded to 84 member clubs, with limited conference re-alignment. The competition structure remained the same for the ECNL Playoffs with three tiers: Champions League, North American Cup and Showcase Cup. Both the North American Cup and Showcase Cup stayed the same with knockout style brackets, with 16 teams competing in each for a chance to be crowned champion in Rockford, IL. The winners of each Champions League quarterfinal game advanced to the ECNL Final Four, held in San Diego, CA.

2017-2018
In the ninth season, 2017-18, the ECNL consisted of 80 member clubs, with limited conference re-alignment. The competition structure remained the same for the ECNL Playoffs with three tiers: Champions League, North American Cup and Showcase Cup, with the U14 division expanding in the Champions League format to 32 teams in the post season. Both the North American Cup and Showcase Cup stayed the same with knockout style brackets, with 16 teams competing in each for a chance to be crowned champion in Seattle, WA. The winners of each Champions League quarterfinal game advanced to the ECNL Final Four, held in Richmond, VA.

2018-2019
In the tenth season, 2018-19, the ECNL consisted of 89 member clubs, with limited conference re-alignment. The competition structure remained the same for the ECNL Playoffs with three tiers: Champions League, North American Cup and Showcase Cup, with the U14 division expanding in the Champions League format to 32 teams in the post season. Both the North American Cup and Showcase Cup stayed the same with knockout style brackets, with 16 teams competing in each for a chance to be crowned champion in San Diego, CA. The winners of each Champions League quarterfinal game advanced to the ECNL Final Four, held in Richmond, VA. In addition, the ECNL expanded the post season to include both the U13 division and the U18/U19 Composite division. The U13 division included 16 teams, following the same format as the U18/U19 division. The ECNL U18/U19 Composite division is an optional division that saw six teams advance from five eligible conferences. The first ECNL U13 National Champion and first ECNL U18/U19 Composite Champion were crowned in San Diego, CA.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe wait and see if this NEW NEW league lasts longer than the last one or even lasts a year before criticizing what the league that didn’t die should or shouldn’t do. Just a thought.

ECNL was created in 2009 and survived the full wrath of the USSF and won. I think we all know what league will still be around and thriving. Just a though.

ECNL currently has 96 clubs. They have added this spring but they are not included in the count. Of those 96, about 10 to 20 are top notch. The rest are just soccer clubs.

As ECNL expands, and it will expand, it will simply be the largest national league but the quality will be closer to a National CCL level.

So, much like DA faced with MLS clubs ECNL will have to tier their league or the top clubs will begin to grow restless pounding on undeserving clubs. ECNL will then either have to kick clubs out, (lol, never), or tier to the top 40-50. If they don’t tier those same clubs, who don’t need the patch, will just form their own thing and splinter off.

The cycle will repeat. The leagues need the mega clubs more than the mega clubs need the league. When PDA’s B team is still a top team in a ECNL division how patient will a club like PDA be pounding on FC Bucks? The mega clubs will eventually splinter off and do their own thing and invite the clubs they like to follow along.

That was how ECNL was built and why it was successful and capped around 50 clubs.

If a North/South division is created in the mid Atlantic they will have to back fill with more clubs. As currently scheduled HS prohibits any flexibility between MD and VA games other than Jan/Feb/Mar games before VA spring HS starts. And nothing is more predictable and fun than February soccer.

ECNL is watering itself down.

I do not understand this argument. As it’s the same as when ECNL added teams over the last two years. It’s an argument for arguments sake. Will this new league even survive until next summer? Who knows.

Add to it this area is too watered down so honestly, stop. Just stop. Clubs from this area strike no fear in top clubs from GA, CA, TX, NJ. Find a spot for your kid, start training more than the wall balls these local clubs think suffice and pray it works out.

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The elite clubs will always be elite. There are not more than 50 truly elite clubs regardless of a patch on their jersey. The other 50+ clubs are nothing more filler and can be replaced by virtually any club.

another worthless post (2 for 2 today). Atta boy. You're on a roll

He wasn't lying. The badge doesn't make the club.

His opinion is his own but adds no value. These threads are all opinions. Even when you post results, everyone throws in their opinions. Everyone is always ripping at each others throats because they are insecure. People wont event acknowledge good teams unless their kids play on it.

I am acknowledging good clubs and many of the ECNL clubs are not elite. A Top Drawer soccer tanking in the top 100 doesn’t make them elite either when league affiliation artificially weights their ranking.

But if you honestly believe that the gap between the 80th ranked club and the 10th ranked club is not huge then you are not acknowledging how good they truly are. The gap between club 80 and club 120 is much, much smaller than club 80 and club 30.

I from my opinions from experience. You form your opinions from stats. It sounds like you have no real "street level" experience and spent most of your opinion forming career in a cubicle.

If GA folded and ECNL cut back to two local clubs does your kid make a team?

GA? Never heard of them

And for the record, my kid has played all the big boys. Hawks, PDA, Stars, Eclipse, Socal teams, etc. Has yours?

Come back when you have some real world experience.

If you are a parent of a 03 or older your looking through rose colored glasses. ECNL is no longer what it was.

Look at how those big boys do in their divisions now. They are BORED!!! The only competitive games they get are in the playoffs.

You have an agenda with no experience. Your pro/reg league will cost families about 12,000 a year to play in. And just because a club isn't a mega club, doesn't mean its a filler club.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe wait and see if this NEW NEW league lasts longer than the last one or even lasts a year before criticizing what the league that didn’t die should or shouldn’t do. Just a thought.

ECNL was created in 2009 and survived the full wrath of the USSF and won. I think we all know what league will still be around and thriving. Just a though.

ECNL currently has 96 clubs. They have added this spring but they are not included in the count. Of those 96, about 10 to 20 are top notch. The rest are just soccer clubs.

As ECNL expands, and it will expand, it will simply be the largest national league but the quality will be closer to a National CCL level.

So, much like DA faced with MLS clubs ECNL will have to tier their league or the top clubs will begin to grow restless pounding on undeserving clubs. ECNL will then either have to kick clubs out, (lol, never), or tier to the top 40-50. If they don’t tier those same clubs, who don’t need the patch, will just form their own thing and splinter off.

The cycle will repeat. The leagues need the mega clubs more than the mega clubs need the league. When PDA’s B team is still a top team in a ECNL division how patient will a club like PDA be pounding on FC Bucks? The mega clubs will eventually splinter off and do their own thing and invite the clubs they like to follow along.

That was how ECNL was built and why it was successful and capped around 50 clubs.

If a North/South division is created in the mid Atlantic they will have to back fill with more clubs. As currently scheduled HS prohibits any flexibility between MD and VA games other than Jan/Feb/Mar games before VA spring HS starts. And nothing is more predictable and fun than February soccer.

ECNL is watering itself down.

I do not understand this argument. As it’s the same as when ECNL added teams over the last two years. It’s an argument for arguments sake. Will this new league even survive until next summer? Who knows.

Add to it this area is too watered down so honestly, stop. Just stop. Clubs from this area strike no fear in top clubs from GA, CA, TX, NJ. Find a spot for your kid, start training more than the wall balls these local clubs think suffice and pray it works out.

Worthless post

The elite clubs will always be elite. There are not more than 50 truly elite clubs regardless of a patch on their jersey. The other 50+ clubs are nothing more filler and can be replaced by virtually any club.

another worthless post (2 for 2 today). Atta boy. You're on a roll

He wasn't lying. The badge doesn't make the club.

His opinion is his own but adds no value. These threads are all opinions. Even when you post results, everyone throws in their opinions. Everyone is always ripping at each others throats because they are insecure. People wont event acknowledge good teams unless their kids play on it.

I am acknowledging good clubs and many of the ECNL clubs are not elite. A Top Drawer soccer tanking in the top 100 doesn’t make them elite either when league affiliation artificially weights their ranking.

But if you honestly believe that the gap between the 80th ranked club and the 10th ranked club is not huge then you are not acknowledging how good they truly are. The gap between club 80 and club 120 is much, much smaller than club 80 and club 30.

I from my opinions from experience. You form your opinions from stats. It sounds like you have no real "street level" experience and spent most of your opinion forming career in a cubicle.

If GA folded and ECNL cut back to two local clubs does your kid make a team?

GA? Never heard of them

And for the record, my kid has played all the big boys. Hawks, PDA, Stars, Eclipse, Socal teams, etc. Has yours?

Come back when you have some real world experience.

If you are a parent of a 03 or older your looking through rose colored glasses. ECNL is no longer what it was.

Look at how those big boys do in their divisions now. They are BORED!!! The only competitive games they get are in the playoffs.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL at its peak was about 50 clubs. The patch meant that your kid was one of 900 kids per age group in the country.

Now, with about 100 clubs, your kid is about one of 1800 kids.

ECNL also only used to support 4 age groups for a total of 2700 kids. ECNL now has 300 kids more over two age groups than the entirety of kids playing in the league 4-5 years ago.

How is that Elite?

If you’re a starter at a mega club, yes you’re elite otherwise you’re a filler player at a filler club.

And you are a gotsoccer, topdrawer, youth soccer ranking nobody. LOL.

When an entire league had 2700 kids and 5 years later that same league has 300 more kids across just two age groups you think that made ECNL clubs more or less selective?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe wait and see if this NEW NEW league lasts longer than the last one or even lasts a year before criticizing what the league that didn’t die should or shouldn’t do. Just a thought.

ECNL was created in 2009 and survived the full wrath of the USSF and won. I think we all know what league will still be around and thriving. Just a though.

ECNL currently has 96 clubs. They have added this spring but they are not included in the count. Of those 96, about 10 to 20 are top notch. The rest are just soccer clubs.

As ECNL expands, and it will expand, it will simply be the largest national league but the quality will be closer to a National CCL level.

So, much like DA faced with MLS clubs ECNL will have to tier their league or the top clubs will begin to grow restless pounding on undeserving clubs. ECNL will then either have to kick clubs out, (lol, never), or tier to the top 40-50. If they don’t tier those same clubs, who don’t need the patch, will just form their own thing and splinter off.

The cycle will repeat. The leagues need the mega clubs more than the mega clubs need the league. When PDA’s B team is still a top team in a ECNL division how patient will a club like PDA be pounding on FC Bucks? The mega clubs will eventually splinter off and do their own thing and invite the clubs they like to follow along.

That was how ECNL was built and why it was successful and capped around 50 clubs.

If a North/South division is created in the mid Atlantic they will have to back fill with more clubs. As currently scheduled HS prohibits any flexibility between MD and VA games other than Jan/Feb/Mar games before VA spring HS starts. And nothing is more predictable and fun than February soccer.

ECNL is watering itself down.

I do not understand this argument. As it’s the same as when ECNL added teams over the last two years. It’s an argument for arguments sake. Will this new league even survive until next summer? Who knows.

Add to it this area is too watered down so honestly, stop. Just stop. Clubs from this area strike no fear in top clubs from GA, CA, TX, NJ. Find a spot for your kid, start training more than the wall balls these local clubs think suffice and pray it works out.

Worthless post

The elite clubs will always be elite. There are not more than 50 truly elite clubs regardless of a patch on their jersey. The other 50+ clubs are nothing more filler and can be replaced by virtually any club.

another worthless post (2 for 2 today). Atta boy. You're on a roll

He wasn't lying. The badge doesn't make the club.

His opinion is his own but adds no value. These threads are all opinions. Even when you post results, everyone throws in their opinions. Everyone is always ripping at each others throats because they are insecure. People wont event acknowledge good teams unless their kids play on it.

I am acknowledging good clubs and many of the ECNL clubs are not elite. A Top Drawer soccer tanking in the top 100 doesn’t make them elite either when league affiliation artificially weights their ranking.

But if you honestly believe that the gap between the 80th ranked club and the 10th ranked club is not huge then you are not acknowledging how good they truly are. The gap between club 80 and club 120 is much, much smaller than club 80 and club 30.

I from my opinions from experience. You form your opinions from stats. It sounds like you have no real "street level" experience and spent most of your opinion forming career in a cubicle.

If GA folded and ECNL cut back to two local clubs does your kid make a team?

GA? Never heard of them

And for the record, my kid has played all the big boys. Hawks, PDA, Stars, Eclipse, Socal teams, etc. Has yours?

Come back when you have some real world experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe wait and see if this NEW NEW league lasts longer than the last one or even lasts a year before criticizing what the league that didn’t die should or shouldn’t do. Just a thought.

ECNL was created in 2009 and survived the full wrath of the USSF and won. I think we all know what league will still be around and thriving. Just a though.

ECNL currently has 96 clubs. They have added this spring but they are not included in the count. Of those 96, about 10 to 20 are top notch. The rest are just soccer clubs.

As ECNL expands, and it will expand, it will simply be the largest national league but the quality will be closer to a National CCL level.

So, much like DA faced with MLS clubs ECNL will have to tier their league or the top clubs will begin to grow restless pounding on undeserving clubs. ECNL will then either have to kick clubs out, (lol, never), or tier to the top 40-50. If they don’t tier those same clubs, who don’t need the patch, will just form their own thing and splinter off.

The cycle will repeat. The leagues need the mega clubs more than the mega clubs need the league. When PDA’s B team is still a top team in a ECNL division how patient will a club like PDA be pounding on FC Bucks? The mega clubs will eventually splinter off and do their own thing and invite the clubs they like to follow along.

That was how ECNL was built and why it was successful and capped around 50 clubs.

If a North/South division is created in the mid Atlantic they will have to back fill with more clubs. As currently scheduled HS prohibits any flexibility between MD and VA games other than Jan/Feb/Mar games before VA spring HS starts. And nothing is more predictable and fun than February soccer.

ECNL is watering itself down.

I do not understand this argument. As it’s the same as when ECNL added teams over the last two years. It’s an argument for arguments sake. Will this new league even survive until next summer? Who knows.

Add to it this area is too watered down so honestly, stop. Just stop. Clubs from this area strike no fear in top clubs from GA, CA, TX, NJ. Find a spot for your kid, start training more than the wall balls these local clubs think suffice and pray it works out.

Worthless post

The elite clubs will always be elite. There are not more than 50 truly elite clubs regardless of a patch on their jersey. The other 50+ clubs are nothing more filler and can be replaced by virtually any club.

another worthless post (2 for 2 today). Atta boy. You're on a roll

He wasn't lying. The badge doesn't make the club.

His opinion is his own but adds no value. These threads are all opinions. Even when you post results, everyone throws in their opinions. Everyone is always ripping at each others throats because they are insecure. People wont event acknowledge good teams unless their kids play on it.

I am acknowledging good clubs and many of the ECNL clubs are not elite. A Top Drawer soccer tanking in the top 100 doesn’t make them elite either when league affiliation artificially weights their ranking.

But if you honestly believe that the gap between the 80th ranked club and the 10th ranked club is not huge then you are not acknowledging how good they truly are. The gap between club 80 and club 120 is much, much smaller than club 80 and club 30.

I from my opinions from experience. You form your opinions from stats. It sounds like you have no real "street level" experience and spent most of your opinion forming career in a cubicle.

If GA folded and ECNL cut back to two local clubs does your kid make a team?

GA? Never heard of them

Anonymous wrote:ECNL at its peak was about 50 clubs. The patch meant that your kid was one of 900 kids per age group in the country.

Now, with about 100 clubs, your kid is about one of 1800 kids.

ECNL also only used to support 4 age groups for a total of 2700 kids. ECNL now has 300 kids more over two age groups than the entirety of kids playing in the league 4-5 years ago.

How is that Elite?

If you’re a starter at a mega club, yes you’re elite otherwise you’re a filler player at a filler club.

And you are a gotsoccer, topdrawer, youth soccer ranking nobody. LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe wait and see if this NEW NEW league lasts longer than the last one or even lasts a year before criticizing what the league that didn’t die should or shouldn’t do. Just a thought.

ECNL was created in 2009 and survived the full wrath of the USSF and won. I think we all know what league will still be around and thriving. Just a though.

ECNL currently has 96 clubs. They have added this spring but they are not included in the count. Of those 96, about 10 to 20 are top notch. The rest are just soccer clubs.

As ECNL expands, and it will expand, it will simply be the largest national league but the quality will be closer to a National CCL level.

So, much like DA faced with MLS clubs ECNL will have to tier their league or the top clubs will begin to grow restless pounding on undeserving clubs. ECNL will then either have to kick clubs out, (lol, never), or tier to the top 40-50. If they don’t tier those same clubs, who don’t need the patch, will just form their own thing and splinter off.

The cycle will repeat. The leagues need the mega clubs more than the mega clubs need the league. When PDA’s B team is still a top team in a ECNL division how patient will a club like PDA be pounding on FC Bucks? The mega clubs will eventually splinter off and do their own thing and invite the clubs they like to follow along.

That was how ECNL was built and why it was successful and capped around 50 clubs.

If a North/South division is created in the mid Atlantic they will have to back fill with more clubs. As currently scheduled HS prohibits any flexibility between MD and VA games other than Jan/Feb/Mar games before VA spring HS starts. And nothing is more predictable and fun than February soccer.

ECNL is watering itself down.

I do not understand this argument. As it’s the same as when ECNL added teams over the last two years. It’s an argument for arguments sake. Will this new league even survive until next summer? Who knows.

Add to it this area is too watered down so honestly, stop. Just stop. Clubs from this area strike no fear in top clubs from GA, CA, TX, NJ. Find a spot for your kid, start training more than the wall balls these local clubs think suffice and pray it works out.

Worthless post

The elite clubs will always be elite. There are not more than 50 truly elite clubs regardless of a patch on their jersey. The other 50+ clubs are nothing more filler and can be replaced by virtually any club.

another worthless post (2 for 2 today). Atta boy. You're on a roll

He wasn't lying. The badge doesn't make the club.

His opinion is his own but adds no value. These threads are all opinions. Even when you post results, everyone throws in their opinions. Everyone is always ripping at each others throats because they are insecure. People wont event acknowledge good teams unless their kids play on it.

I am acknowledging good clubs and many of the ECNL clubs are not elite. A Top Drawer soccer tanking in the top 100 doesn’t make them elite either when league affiliation artificially weights their ranking.

But if you honestly believe that the gap between the 80th ranked club and the 10th ranked club is not huge then you are not acknowledging how good they truly are. The gap between club 80 and club 120 is much, much smaller than club 80 and club 30.

I from my opinions from experience. You form your opinions from stats. It sounds like you have no real "street level" experience and spent most of your opinion forming career in a cubicle.

If GA folded and ECNL cut back to two local clubs does your kid make a team?