Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 18:12     Subject: Re:If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers are lazyAF.

They just want to sit at home on their couches and still get paid what they normally would. Totally taking advantage of the situation.


HAHAHAHA. You are so out of touch with what’s actually happening. Does it make you feel better to insult people you don’t even know?


So address the fact that many are doing no actual teaching. No teaching videos, no live zoom instruction. Just put up assignments, that’s it.

If kids don’t automatically know what to do (and how would they if it’s new content?) parents have to take time out of their work day to show them.


What will they do when they encounter something new in their lives, and you aren't around, and a teacher hasn't done a live or pre-recorded lesson for them? What do you do when you don't know or can't remember something? Google it. Point them to Khan Academy or YouTube or dozens of other sites. Get them workbooks or textbooks. Let them try and figure it out first, and help them only if they get stuck. Direct instruction isn't even needed in most cases, especially if classmates can work together to figure things out.


Yeah, I'm definitely pointing my first grader to Google and YouTube. "Figure it out, Johnny!"
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 18:12     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. Teachers should not be worried. There was a teacher shortage before this began and so many parents in this area are willing to pay $100/hr or more for one on one tutoring. If cuts happen these teachers will probably be hired by the same parents complaining about distance learning and will make more money than they did with their salary.


That was when there was generally a tight labor market. Are you familiar with the unemployment rate?


Not everyone will be able to do this but don’t be fooled about the amount of wealth here. The demand for private tutors is greater than ever and people are willing to pay. I’m a high school teacher and it’s common for students to have tutors in my school. Parents and tutors and still coordinating with me as they did before we closed, to assure me that tutoring sessions are continuing with zoom. I always encourage students to come see me for extra help but it’s the DC metro way to throw money at situations. In my own neighborhood, my children’s friends’ parents are currently lining up tutors for the summer. I do not tutor but am asked frequently if I would consider by friends or acquaintances since I’m a teacher.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 18:00     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:I see sooo many teachers commenting in various places that they’re worried about getting the virus so don’t think schools should resume in person.

Ok fine. If that happens? How many math teachers does a school really need? One per grade to put together the content. The online programs like Khan Academy do everything else including teaching and grading. This goes for the programs that my kids’ science and Spanish teachers are using as well.

If school continues online for the next however many years, won’t there be a massive lay off of teachers? Why are they not more worried about their jobs?


Because there's a vanishingly small chance that school will be online for "years". And also because posts like this make it apparent how much remedial education is needed in this country, because there's a lot of really dim bulbs around. JFC.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 17:57     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see sooo many teachers commenting in various places that they’re worried about getting the virus so don’t think schools should resume in person.

Ok fine. If that happens? How many math teachers does a school really need? One per grade to put together the content. The online programs like Khan Academy do everything else including teaching and grading. This goes for the programs that my kids’ science and Spanish teachers are using as well.

If school continues online for the next however many years, won’t there be a massive lay off of teachers? Why are they not more worried about their jobs?

I'm not really seeing that. What I am seeing from teachers is requests for PPE and some stating that they will not be back. Not that school shouldn't open, just that they won't be back.


Every teacher I know, including me and my DW, are prepared to return in August. Personally, I’d go back next week if it was determined we could do so.
+1 Give me hand sanitizer, wipes for desks and chairs, a c-19 mask and the kids in masks, and I am ready to go. I will be there in a heartbeat. I hate this online stuff.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 17:54     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:Schools should resume in the fall. period. If teachers can't handle it, then FCPS has all summer to find people that can handle it.

Ha! Good luck with that! There is a teacher shortage on already. We've had open, unfilled positions in my school all year long. There is no way that any school will be able to find certified teachers who are capable and minimally competent if they start firing teachers who raise questions about health concerns.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 17:39     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:I see sooo many teachers commenting in various places that they’re worried about getting the virus so don’t think schools should resume in person.

Ok fine. If that happens? How many math teachers does a school really need? One per grade to put together the content. The online programs like Khan Academy do everything else including teaching and grading. This goes for the programs that my kids’ science and Spanish teachers are using as well.

If school continues online for the next however many years, won’t there be a massive lay off of teachers? Why are they not more worried about their jobs?


If all you want are multiple choice quizzes, I guess that’s fine. My DD writes paragraphs and essays in her Spanish 2B class. They also have twice weekly speaking work.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 16:32     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools should resume in the fall. period. If teachers can't handle it, then FCPS has all summer to find people that can handle it.

I hope you understand that when you dismiss people’s concerns about dying of the virus due to a lack of precautions that you are showing how little you care about others. That’s very sad and I hope you aren’t sharing that with your children.
The stunning lack of regard for the well being for the people who work with your kids all day makes me want to go out of my way to please you even less.


The PP is probably just frustrated and with good reason. It’s detrimental for children to be out of school. The loss of learning is immense. Please step out of your bubble.



If they "lost" the learning, they probably didn't really have it in the first place, and don't need it except to jump through school hoops. Also, it should be completely obvious that no one needs to be in a school to learn.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 16:20     Subject: Re:If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers are lazyAF.

They just want to sit at home on their couches and still get paid what they normally would. Totally taking advantage of the situation.


HAHAHAHA. You are so out of touch with what’s actually happening. Does it make you feel better to insult people you don’t even know?


So address the fact that many are doing no actual teaching. No teaching videos, no live zoom instruction. Just put up assignments, that’s it.

If kids don’t automatically know what to do (and how would they if it’s new content?) parents have to take time out of their work day to show them.


What will they do when they encounter something new in their lives, and you aren't around, and a teacher hasn't done a live or pre-recorded lesson for them? What do you do when you don't know or can't remember something? Google it. Point them to Khan Academy or YouTube or dozens of other sites. Get them workbooks or textbooks. Let them try and figure it out first, and help them only if they get stuck. Direct instruction isn't even needed in most cases, especially if classmates can work together to figure things out.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 16:00     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you worried about your job? I’m pretty sure everyone is worried about their job no matter what field they are in. Whether they lose it or their job is totally reimagined into something they no longer enjoy, changes are here.

It’s bizarre that parents are so angry at teachers right now. I’m sorry that you have to watch your own kids all day but I never planned on teaching from home. This was totally unexpected and now we have to totally reimagine everything. I hope you can continue providing for your family. I’m not sure why parents are chomping at the bit for teaches to get fired. I don’t think we’re sitting around hoping all of you lose your livelihoods.

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Are you kidding?! Because you’re not teaching! You out assignments up with no teaching videos or Zoom instruction and just expect parents to teach everything.

I taught my 2nd trader how to make a bar graph, line plot, and an outline today.

Teacher could have demonstrated this over zoom or made teaching videos. Did neither.


+1
Who are all these teachers not teaching??? I work for MCPS and I am on Zoom 1 1/2 hours a day, and spend up to 2 more hours online helping students via Google Classroom chat. I also teach additional lessons so they are getting enrichment and reteach if they need it. WE also do cute extra stuff like go on virtual field trips, watch a free streamed play via Imagination Stage. I want to nkow who all these teachers are sitting on their duffś all day. I know they are there because I offered to help my neighborś kid who says they only have a 15 - 20 min. zoom check-in a day. Glad my kid does not go to that school or else I will be very upset.

Exactly, this is the problem OP outlines. Teachers are doing NO teaching.

Putting up assignments through an online program or app like Khan Academy or even a scan of a worksheet is NOT teaching.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 15:44     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see sooo many teachers commenting in various places that they’re worried about getting the virus so don’t think schools should resume in person.

Ok fine. If that happens? How many math teachers does a school really need? One per grade to put together the content. The online programs like Khan Academy do everything else including teaching and grading. This goes for the programs that my kids’ science and Spanish teachers are using as well.

If school continues online for the next however many years, won’t there be a massive lay off of teachers? Why are they not more worried about their jobs?

I'm not really seeing that. What I am seeing from teachers is requests for PPE and some stating that they will not be back. Not that school shouldn't open, just that they won't be back.


Every teacher I know, including me and my DW, are prepared to return in August. Personally, I’d go back next week if it was determined we could do so.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 14:21     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:I see sooo many teachers commenting in various places that they’re worried about getting the virus so don’t think schools should resume in person.

Ok fine. If that happens? How many math teachers does a school really need? One per grade to put together the content. The online programs like Khan Academy do everything else including teaching and grading. This goes for the programs that my kids’ science and Spanish teachers are using as well.

If school continues online for the next however many years, won’t there be a massive lay off of teachers? Why are they not more worried about their jobs?

I'm not really seeing that. What I am seeing from teachers is requests for PPE and some stating that they will not be back. Not that school shouldn't open, just that they won't be back.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 14:12     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you worried about your job? I’m pretty sure everyone is worried about their job no matter what field they are in. Whether they lose it or their job is totally reimagined into something they no longer enjoy, changes are here.

It’s bizarre that parents are so angry at teachers right now. I’m sorry that you have to watch your own kids all day but I never planned on teaching from home. This was totally unexpected and now we have to totally reimagine everything. I hope you can continue providing for your family. I’m not sure why parents are chomping at the bit for teaches to get fired. I don’t think we’re sitting around hoping all of you lose your livelihoods.

m
Are you kidding?! Because you’re not teaching! You out assignments up with no teaching videos or Zoom instruction and just expect parents to teach everything.

I taught my 2nd trader how to make a bar graph, line plot, and an outline today.

Teacher could have demonstrated this over zoom or made teaching videos. Did neither.

No I’m not kidding. How would you know what I do? Your child isn’t in my class. That’s like me sitting here telling you that you do nothing all day. How should I know what you do? And why should I care?
Great for you! None of those skills are challenging to teach. Must’ve been a big day in your house.
I love how parents are demanding that teachers provide live entertainment all day and getting hysterical when they are told no. I just got off of a live session with my class and won’t do it again til Friday. Honestly they aren’t very productive. I do it for the kids so they can see each other. Have I had parents try to push for more? Yes. But my time is better spent making prerecorded videos and creating curriculum and materials. We all know you don’t feel you should have to lift a finger in your child’s education. We hear you. That doesn’t mean we owe you more. Get over it!
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 14:08     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:Schools should resume in the fall. period. If teachers can't handle it, then FCPS has all summer to find people that can handle it.


Lol. Good luck hiring someone for my subjects (math and statistics). Also, I used to work at a school that would (try to) use TFA or Teaching Fellows. Half of them would quit by November.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 14:03     Subject: If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:I see sooo many teachers commenting in various places that they’re worried about getting the virus so don’t think schools should resume in person.

Ok fine. If that happens? How many math teachers does a school really need? One per grade to put together the content. The online programs like Khan Academy do everything else including teaching and grading. This goes for the programs that my kids’ science and Spanish teachers are using as well.

If school continues online for the next however many years, won’t there be a massive lay off of teachers? Why are they not more worried about their jobs?


Nope. Not worried. These online platforms might have good explanations of how to do a problem or a good lecture. However, they don't give feedback on writing or process. They don't guide students through a project or higher order thinking skills.

It takes me a lot longer now to give feedback. Instead of just leaning over their shoulder and pointing things out, I actually have to type up a response or get them on the video chat to explain.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2020 13:55     Subject: Re:If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers are lazyAF.

They just want to sit at home on their couches and still get paid what they normally would. Totally taking advantage of the situation.


HAHAHAHA. You are so out of touch with what’s actually happening. Does it make you feel better to insult people you don’t even know?


So address the fact that many are doing no actual teaching. No teaching videos, no live zoom instruction. Just put up assignments, that’s it.

If kids don’t automatically know what to do (and how would they if it’s new content?) parents have to take time out of their work day to show them.


So you mean you have to help your kid learn just like I have to with mine? I don’t know what other schools/districts are doing, but I AM teaching, lesson planning, grading, collaborating, and attending staff meetings like usual. I’m also doing this while teaching my own kids.