Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 15:08     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Landon is best known nationally for the homicide by George Huegel V. I know it happened after he graduated but it’s the first thing someone not from DC thinks about when the hear Landon.

Agree with PPs who say this is a stupid thread. Who cares what the national reputation of a school is? Colleges know which schools send prepared kids.


No one not from DC remembers what high school a kid who committed a crime in college went to.


The media made a HUGE deal of the Landon connection.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 14:46     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:The prep schools in Baltimore all well known in Baltimore...you'll get a blank stare in Darien CT Avon CT or heck even Sudbury/Wellesley/Northampton (?!?!?) MA... I went to St. Lawrence for college and I knew the Andovers...the Baltimore crowd lives in planet Baltimore. McDonough or Gilman aint Hotchkiss.


And vice versa.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 14:45     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:STA does not have a national reputation, sorry. The only schools that do are Phillips Exeter, Andover, and Choate. A few other schools people may know nationally are Deerfield, Hotchkiss, Middlesex, Groton, Northfield Mt. Hermon, Taft, Ethel Walker, and Miss Porter's. Out west the upper and upper middle class have only really heard of these top schools because they are boarding schools and people will consider sending their kids there for high school. STA is not even on their radar. Its boarding program is insignificant and not attractive to most people, especially anyone nationally.


STA definitely has a national reputation in elite social circles for sure in NY, LA, Boston, and even when we were in London and Paris. STA was definitely mentioned and known a lot. I always thought it was strange being a highschool that people knew it but they did growing up and when I lived in those places and they still do know it.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 14:40     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:St Albans seems to consider itself and truth be told seems to be considered by many to be THE only school in the region that would be recognized by anyone outside of the DMV. Though Prep, with its Supremes and the suggestion of a G-town connection may be right up there. Landon, with all of its Country Club 1 percenters does not seem to have the national name recognition as you might expect (unless you count the lax notoriety). What surprised me as that no one I know outside of the suburbs seems to have heard of Gonzaga. Why is that? I include a reference to Baltimore schools as when anyone outside of the area learns that I’m from the DC area and have sons, they automatically assume my guys are enrolled in the St Paul’s et al. Baltimore schools. Why so much cachet for those Balti-moron institutions vis-a-vis DC?


Only one I ever heard of is St. Albans.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 13:07     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Come on. No one outside of the DMV connects Landon with that crime. No one outside of here thinks of either.
I grew up outside of this area (Philly) and knew of Georgetown Prep but thought it was connected to Georgetown.
My son is now at STA. I had never heard of it prior to moving here.


If any school is associated with that crime, it is UVA, as that is where Hughley attended when the crime was committed.


I’m sorry that, as an obvious Landon parent, you wish the strain of that went to uva. Huguely and love met while he was at Landon, and he murdered her shortly after leaving Landon. He’d barely been at uva. Around the same time, the Duke lacrosse scandal happened, with roots to Landon. The sat cheating scandal in that same time frame as well, along with the arguably racist decisions by Landon about who and who not to expel. You can’t foist that on a school huguely spent five minutes at.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 13:04     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Come on. No one outside of the DMV connects Landon with that crime. No one outside of here thinks of either.
I grew up outside of this area (Philly) and knew of Georgetown Prep but thought it was connected to Georgetown.
My son is now at STA. I had never heard of it prior to moving here.


I’m not from dc, and I absolutely connect it. Everyone in Virginia does because George literally committed murder at uva. Many in the lacrosse world know it as well. Landon has a long way to go from its reputation of rapists, murderers, and sat cheaters.

Many people will *never* consider that school. Period.


+1000. I’m from the middle of the south, and Landon has a “National reputation.” For murder, misogyny, and cheating.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 12:54     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The prep schools in Baltimore all well known in Baltimore...you'll get a blank stare in Darien CT Avon CT or heck even Sudbury/Wellesley/Northampton (?!?!?) MA... I went to St. Lawrence for college and I knew the Andovers...the Baltimore crowd lives in planet Baltimore. McDonough or Gilman aint Hotchkiss.


To be fair, these schools mostly have local / class reputations. For example, I am double Ivy and have no idea what a Hotckiss is. Whatever. I'm sure it was great.

This is kind of a dumb thread, come to think of it.


Hotchkiss is a type of machine gun. Used to great effect against native Americans at Wounded Knee. Hope that helps.

Hotchkiss is in a beautiful location and has a fantastic (and expensive) physical plant. I just got back from a visit there, not to visit the school but to do some hiking in the Berkshires. However, there have been grumblings among alumni about its current direction. Not sure if all similar New England schools have the same problem, but apparently they attract the children of wealthy foreign, often corrupt, oligarchs because their parent don't complain about the sky-high tuition.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2021 19:25     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
nobody in the Northeast cares about Landon, Gilman, or even Meret... Loomis, Kingswood, Westminster, Ethel Walker, Miss Porters, Hotchkiss, Kent, Choate, St Pauls, Exeter....you get the idea. The Baltimore DC circuit is meaningless....sorry folks but I went to one of the Connecticut ones and grew up in NE. Nobody knows about Planet Baltimore...
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 15:33     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:STA does not have a national reputation, sorry. The only schools that do are Phillips Exeter, Andover, and Choate. A few other schools people may know nationally are Deerfield, Hotchkiss, Middlesex, Groton, Northfield Mt. Hermon, Taft, Ethel Walker, and Miss Porter's. Out west the upper and upper middle class have only really heard of these top schools because they are boarding schools and people will consider sending their kids there for high school. STA is not even on their radar. Its boarding program is insignificant and not attractive to most people, especially anyone nationally.


Even those high schools are unknown to most people unless they live in the area or are in the small world of people who might actually be able to attend them. That is a very small world. The other category of people who know about them are kids from elsewhere who end up at at expensive private colleges in the NE, and they they hear about the schools from their classmates (even though they would never bother to talk about their own high schools, since they'd moved on in life, lol). And kids don't talk about those schools because of the academics, rather to signal social class and money (even if you went on scholarship).



Your post summarizes it well.

DC has the virtue of being the nation's capital so it's not surprising its elite private schools will have children of famous politicians or policy figures.

Beyond that, people who live in the rarefied world of the well off, especially from certain backgrounds and families, will have a tendency to recognize the names of the big private schools in many cities through family and friends and college classmates. Osmosis process.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 11:10     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:Come on. No one outside of the DMV connects Landon with that crime. No one outside of here thinks of either.
I grew up outside of this area (Philly) and knew of Georgetown Prep but thought it was connected to Georgetown.
My son is now at STA. I had never heard of it prior to moving here.


If any school is associated with that crime, it is UVA, as that is where Hughley attended when the crime was committed.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 11:04     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:STA does not have a national reputation, sorry. The only schools that do are Phillips Exeter, Andover, and Choate. A few other schools people may know nationally are Deerfield, Hotchkiss, Middlesex, Groton, Northfield Mt. Hermon, Taft, Ethel Walker, and Miss Porter's. Out west the upper and upper middle class have only really heard of these top schools because they are boarding schools and people will consider sending their kids there for high school. STA is not even on their radar. Its boarding program is insignificant and not attractive to most people, especially anyone nationally.


This is a funny list. I used to teach at Miss Porter’s. There were some lovely, smart girls but also some girls who were dumb as rocks. They take pretty much anyone who applies and can pay the bill.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 10:44     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:Come on. No one outside of the DMV connects Landon with that crime. No one outside of here thinks of either.
I grew up outside of this area (Philly) and knew of Georgetown Prep but thought it was connected to Georgetown.
My son is now at STA. I had never heard of it prior to moving here.


I’m not from dc, and I absolutely connect it. Everyone in Virginia does because George literally committed murder at uva. Many in the lacrosse world know it as well. Landon has a long way to go from its reputation of rapists, murderers, and sat cheaters.

Many people will *never* consider that school. Period.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 10:19     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:STA does not have a national reputation, sorry. The only schools that do are Phillips Exeter, Andover, and Choate. A few other schools people may know nationally are Deerfield, Hotchkiss, Middlesex, Groton, Northfield Mt. Hermon, Taft, Ethel Walker, and Miss Porter's. Out west the upper and upper middle class have only really heard of these top schools because they are boarding schools and people will consider sending their kids there for high school. STA is not even on their radar. Its boarding program is insignificant and not attractive to most people, especially anyone nationally.


Even those high schools are unknown to most people unless they live in the area or are in the small world of people who might actually be able to attend them. That is a very small world. The other category of people who know about them are kids from elsewhere who end up at at expensive private colleges in the NE, and they they hear about the schools from their classmates (even though they would never bother to talk about their own high schools, since they'd moved on in life, lol). And kids don't talk about those schools because of the academics, rather to signal social class and money (even if you went on scholarship).

Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 09:59     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Come on. No one outside of the DMV connects Landon with that crime. No one outside of here thinks of either.
I grew up outside of this area (Philly) and knew of Georgetown Prep but thought it was connected to Georgetown.
My son is now at STA. I had never heard of it prior to moving here.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 09:48     Subject: Which area (to include Baltimore) all boys private has the most national recognition?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Landon is best known nationally for the homicide by George Huegel V. I know it happened after he graduated but it’s the first thing someone not from DC thinks about when the hear Landon.

Agree with PPs who say this is a stupid thread. Who cares what the national reputation of a school is? Colleges know which schools send prepared kids.


No one not from DC remembers what high school a kid who committed a crime in college went to.



Guess who does remember? The women who went to the high school Yardley Love went to.