Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 19:11     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html


This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.


The article didn’t say the kids had Kawasaki disease just that the symptoms share those of Kawasaki disease. While there are treatments for Kawasaki disease these kids are suffering from Covid-19.


That's not true either. Of the kids who had these symptoms, some had covid-19, some had had covid-19 but no longer had it, and some hadn't had it at all. There is zero reason to believe that this is anything other than Kawasaki disease unless you're trying to sell newspapers of course.


Except for the fact that it's not.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 19:08     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html


This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.


The article didn’t say the kids had Kawasaki disease just that the symptoms share those of Kawasaki disease. While there are treatments for Kawasaki disease these kids are suffering from Covid-19.


That's not true either. Of the kids who had these symptoms, some had covid-19, some had had covid-19 but no longer had it, and some hadn't had it at all. There is zero reason to believe that this is anything other than Kawasaki disease unless you're trying to sell newspapers of course.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 18:59     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

VHSL cancels all offseason practices and summer workouts because of coronavirus pandemic. WTH?????
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 17:25     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

Games? No.

The rest? Perhaps, either online or in small groups.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 17:21     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

Why don’t the rules apply to private training and private tryouts?
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 16:08     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

Anonymous wrote:If you look at the guidelines issued by the Maryland Soccer association or some of those from other states, "full contact" games are in the last stage, basically the "all clear" stage. You can see practices of large groups before then, but there will still be social distancing restrictions on them such that you won't see kids contacting each other.

You may see some controlled scrimmages in the phase/stage before that, but this will be something like a zone-based game where kids have an cone-defined area they can't leave and move the ball around those zones or something weird.


Their phases dont equal hogans
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 16:07     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html


This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.


The article may be fear porn, but this post is misinformed.

The KD we are seeing post-COVID also has elements of Toxic Shock Syndrome and Macrophage Activation Syndrome. These kids are MUCH sicker than the standard KD patient (most are requiring PICU-level care, which is uncommon in KD) and skew older (elementary & middle-school aged), and they are NOT responding to the common KD treatments of IVIG and high-dose ASA.

The number of KD patients still represents a small proportion of the population and thus should not necessarily impact the decision to return to play; however, it is incorrect to say that this condition is "eminently treateable (sp) and curable"


Thanks for this distinction. This is why they gave it a different name.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 15:44     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html


This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.


The article may be fear porn, but this post is misinformed.

The KD we are seeing post-COVID also has elements of Toxic Shock Syndrome and Macrophage Activation Syndrome. These kids are MUCH sicker than the standard KD patient (most are requiring PICU-level care, which is uncommon in KD) and skew older (elementary & middle-school aged), and they are NOT responding to the common KD treatments of IVIG and high-dose ASA.

The number of KD patients still represents a small proportion of the population and thus should not necessarily impact the decision to return to play; however, it is incorrect to say that this condition is "eminently treateable (sp) and curable"
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 13:45     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

If you look at the guidelines issued by the Maryland Soccer association or some of those from other states, "full contact" games are in the last stage, basically the "all clear" stage. You can see practices of large groups before then, but there will still be social distancing restrictions on them such that you won't see kids contacting each other.

You may see some controlled scrimmages in the phase/stage before that, but this will be something like a zone-based game where kids have an cone-defined area they can't leave and move the ball around those zones or something weird.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 13:26     Subject: Re:How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

Anonymous wrote:From what i am hearing From various camps/activities , Phase 2 seems likely in MD by mid-June to July. At that point, groups of up to 50 are ok.

Everything depends on the local government now. So, some parts of MD may hit Phase 2 by mid-June to July,but not all.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 13:10     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html


This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.


The article didn’t say the kids had Kawasaki disease just that the symptoms share those of Kawasaki disease. While there are treatments for Kawasaki disease these kids are suffering from Covid-19.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 12:46     Subject: Re:How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

From what i am hearing From various camps/activities , Phase 2 seems likely in MD by mid-June to July. At that point, groups of up to 50 are ok.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2020 12:38     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html


This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2020 19:49     Subject: How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

So the experts say when school starts up, there is alway a big spike(flu, whatever). Look at how hard it is to open up major professional sports. I really want there to be a fall season but it is not looking good. Contact youth sports will be one of the last things to open.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2020 19:42     Subject: Re:How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the fall discussion is fun; however, most of the clubs in the area haven’t even bothered to say anything about this past spring. All I’ve heard is maybe we’ll play in the summer. Pretty certain I didn’t sign up for summer soccer....

Is it safe to assume, if clubs in your area are giving back refunds or credits, that spring season is not happening?


I think you two are speaking of different things. Most travel is still holding out and haven’t given spring updates and considering summer. Most rec programs have cancelled and are coming up with refund or credit plans.