Anonymous wrote:Assume that schools will not be re-opening "normally" in Fall. Also assume that schools will not be able to provide child care during the normal working hours.

What would you like to see schools do? What type of online lessons? What additional materials would help kids learn? Should kids go to school part of the day in small groups if you had to drop them off and pick them up? What would improve online instruction? Please include age, grade and/or subject with your suggestions.

I am a teacher and generally interested in school administration. In many ways, I would love to see things go back to the way they were before, but I'm starting to plan my lessons for a Fall that is just as strange as this Spring has been (DCUM: I know it's a lot to ask, but please be helpful instead of mean). I'm curious about the answers and maybe they will help other teachers plan as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools will reopen mostly normal (no assemblies? maybe)

I think it’s overly optimistic teachers on this board suggesting otherwise.

I don’t quite follow who you think is being optimistic here.

The people being optimistic are the ones thinking school will open.

No, teachers who think the world will carve out teachers/schools specifically while the rest of the world is already reopening this month are the ones being optimistic. It’s not going to happen folks.

You are mistaken. If you think that teachers will go back to "school as normal" with kids packed into classrooms over capacity you are wrong. If your office is operating at half capacity schools should too. If there are no gatherings over 500 people permitted then schools should not be exempt. Schools are huge gathering places with a tremendous risk of transmission. We are not saying we want to be "carved out" (which doesn't make any sense, but okay) we are saying that we will not operate as if everything is fine. We demand the same level of protection as YOU have. If schools can't make any changes (won't provide adequate PPE, won't enforce a strict sick child policy, won't take temperatures, there isn't expanded testing capacity) then remote learning must continue.

LOL what?? The same level of protection that I, an “essential” worker have had? Sure babe. You can have a stack of cloth masks. Give me your address I’ll send them right over.

Do you work in a building with 1,000 people? Does your job involve working in one small room in close quarters with 30 kids, some of whom are coughing but their parent says “sorry! I’m at work.” And you can’t leave the room to wash your hands? And they share all of their materials all day (pencils, paints, play doh, calculators, base ten blocks, unifix cubes, legos, math manipulatives, magnetic letter tiles-just to name a few). And the room is also cleaned by you with supplies you purchase? And the kids call to you from the bathroom that they need help? And when you tell them to pack up for bussing they just sit there waiting for you to help them zip their bags and coats. And all day they need help blowing their noses and tying their shoelaces? And you literally can’t step outside for a second, even to use the bathroom. Is that what your job is like?
If you don’t have that kind of hands on contact with people all day then no, it is not the same.

DP. You want to get PPE? You realize that leaves less for the doctors and nurses who already don't have enough? How will that work? There cannot be distance learning in the fall. It's not working. The kids aren't learning anything. Are we just going to accept this as a lost year for all of these kids? ES kids cannot learn unless they are in a classroom, especially the kids who need that extra help. You seem hell bent on getting to "no" rather than figuring out how to make things work.

Um, yeah. We do want PPE. I’m not sacrificing myself for the economy or so you can go back to work. Our union has already demanded that they supply us with PPE or we will file another unsafe working conditions lawsuit. Why would we go back unprotected? If they can’t adequately supply us then we shouldn’t go back. Period.

I'm sorry to say that your demands will go unmet. See also: workers in meat packing plants.

Anonymous wrote:^^ different poster. Yes, distance learning isn’t great. I still don’t see how in school learning can work. How will teachers do one on one remedial reading help with a student, both bent over a book? How will kids fit in classrooms with distance?

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Anonymous wrote:Schools will reopen mostly normal (no assemblies? maybe)

I think it’s overly optimistic teachers on this board suggesting otherwise.

I don’t quite follow who you think is being optimistic here.

The people being optimistic are the ones thinking school will open.

No, teachers who think the world will carve out teachers/schools specifically while the rest of the world is already reopening this month are the ones being optimistic. It’s not going to happen folks.

You are mistaken. If you think that teachers will go back to "school as normal" with kids packed into classrooms over capacity you are wrong. If your office is operating at half capacity schools should too. If there are no gatherings over 500 people permitted then schools should not be exempt. Schools are huge gathering places with a tremendous risk of transmission. We are not saying we want to be "carved out" (which doesn't make any sense, but okay) we are saying that we will not operate as if everything is fine. We demand the same level of protection as YOU have. If schools can't make any changes (won't provide adequate PPE, won't enforce a strict sick child policy, won't take temperatures, there isn't expanded testing capacity) then remote learning must continue.

LOL what?? The same level of protection that I, an “essential” worker have had? Sure babe. You can have a stack of cloth masks. Give me your address I’ll send them right over.

Do you work in a building with 1,000 people? Does your job involve working in one small room in close quarters with 30 kids, some of whom are coughing but their parent says “sorry! I’m at work.” And you can’t leave the room to wash your hands? And they share all of their materials all day (pencils, paints, play doh, calculators, base ten blocks, unifix cubes, legos, math manipulatives, magnetic letter tiles-just to name a few). And the room is also cleaned by you with supplies you purchase? And the kids call to you from the bathroom that they need help? And when you tell them to pack up for bussing they just sit there waiting for you to help them zip their bags and coats. And all day they need help blowing their noses and tying their shoelaces? And you literally can’t step outside for a second, even to use the bathroom. Is that what your job is like?
If you don’t have that kind of hands on contact with people all day then no, it is not the same.

DP. You want to get PPE? You realize that leaves less for the doctors and nurses who already don't have enough? How will that work? There cannot be distance learning in the fall. It's not working. The kids aren't learning anything. Are we just going to accept this as a lost year for all of these kids? ES kids cannot learn unless they are in a classroom, especially the kids who need that extra help. You seem hell bent on getting to "no" rather than figuring out how to make things work.

Um, yeah. We do want PPE. I’m not sacrificing myself for the economy or so you can go back to work. Our union has already demanded that they supply us with PPE or we will file another unsafe working conditions lawsuit. Why would we go back unprotected? If they can’t adequately supply us then we shouldn’t go back. Period.

I'm sorry to say that your demands will go unmet. See also: workers in meat packing plants.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools will reopen mostly normal (no assemblies? maybe)

I think it’s overly optimistic teachers on this board suggesting otherwise.

I don’t quite follow who you think is being optimistic here.

The people being optimistic are the ones thinking school will open.

No, teachers who think the world will carve out teachers/schools specifically while the rest of the world is already reopening this month are the ones being optimistic. It’s not going to happen folks.

You are mistaken. If you think that teachers will go back to "school as normal" with kids packed into classrooms over capacity you are wrong. If your office is operating at half capacity schools should too. If there are no gatherings over 500 people permitted then schools should not be exempt. Schools are huge gathering places with a tremendous risk of transmission. We are not saying we want to be "carved out" (which doesn't make any sense, but okay) we are saying that we will not operate as if everything is fine. We demand the same level of protection as YOU have. If schools can't make any changes (won't provide adequate PPE, won't enforce a strict sick child policy, won't take temperatures, there isn't expanded testing capacity) then remote learning must continue.

LOL what?? The same level of protection that I, an “essential” worker have had? Sure babe. You can have a stack of cloth masks. Give me your address I’ll send them right over.

Do you work in a building with 1,000 people? Does your job involve working in one small room in close quarters with 30 kids, some of whom are coughing but their parent says “sorry! I’m at work.” And you can’t leave the room to wash your hands? And they share all of their materials all day (pencils, paints, play doh, calculators, base ten blocks, unifix cubes, legos, math manipulatives, magnetic letter tiles-just to name a few). And the room is also cleaned by you with supplies you purchase? And the kids call to you from the bathroom that they need help? And when you tell them to pack up for bussing they just sit there waiting for you to help them zip their bags and coats. And all day they need help blowing their noses and tying their shoelaces? And you literally can’t step outside for a second, even to use the bathroom. Is that what your job is like?
If you don’t have that kind of hands on contact with people all day then no, it is not the same.

DP. You want to get PPE? You realize that leaves less for the doctors and nurses who already don't have enough? How will that work? There cannot be distance learning in the fall. It's not working. The kids aren't learning anything. Are we just going to accept this as a lost year for all of these kids? ES kids cannot learn unless they are in a classroom, especially the kids who need that extra help. You seem hell bent on getting to "no" rather than figuring out how to make things work.

Um, yeah. We do want PPE. I’m not sacrificing myself for the economy or so you can go back to work. Our union has already demanded that they supply us with PPE or we will file another unsafe working conditions lawsuit. Why would we go back unprotected? If they can’t adequately supply us then we shouldn’t go back. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools will reopen mostly normal (no assemblies? maybe)

I think it’s overly optimistic teachers on this board suggesting otherwise.

I don’t quite follow who you think is being optimistic here.

The people being optimistic are the ones thinking school will open.

No, teachers who think the world will carve out teachers/schools specifically while the rest of the world is already reopening this month are the ones being optimistic. It’s not going to happen folks.

You are mistaken. If you think that teachers will go back to "school as normal" with kids packed into classrooms over capacity you are wrong. If your office is operating at half capacity schools should too. If there are no gatherings over 500 people permitted then schools should not be exempt. Schools are huge gathering places with a tremendous risk of transmission. We are not saying we want to be "carved out" (which doesn't make any sense, but okay) we are saying that we will not operate as if everything is fine. We demand the same level of protection as YOU have. If schools can't make any changes (won't provide adequate PPE, won't enforce a strict sick child policy, won't take temperatures, there isn't expanded testing capacity) then remote learning must continue.

LOL what?? The same level of protection that I, an “essential” worker have had? Sure babe. You can have a stack of cloth masks. Give me your address I’ll send them right over.

Do you work in a building with 1,000 people? Does your job involve working in one small room in close quarters with 30 kids, some of whom are coughing but their parent says “sorry! I’m at work.” And you can’t leave the room to wash your hands? And they share all of their materials all day (pencils, paints, play doh, calculators, base ten blocks, unifix cubes, legos, math manipulatives, magnetic letter tiles-just to name a few). And the room is also cleaned by you with supplies you purchase? And the kids call to you from the bathroom that they need help? And when you tell them to pack up for bussing they just sit there waiting for you to help them zip their bags and coats. And all day they need help blowing their noses and tying their shoelaces? And you literally can’t step outside for a second, even to use the bathroom. Is that what your job is like?
If you don’t have that kind of hands on contact with people all day then no, it is not the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools will reopen mostly normal (no assemblies? maybe)

I think it’s overly optimistic teachers on this board suggesting otherwise.

I don’t quite follow who you think is being optimistic here.

The people being optimistic are the ones thinking school will open.

No, teachers who think the world will carve out teachers/schools specifically while the rest of the world is already reopening this month are the ones being optimistic. It’s not going to happen folks.

You are mistaken. If you think that teachers will go back to "school as normal" with kids packed into classrooms over capacity you are wrong. If your office is operating at half capacity schools should too. If there are no gatherings over 500 people permitted then schools should not be exempt. Schools are huge gathering places with a tremendous risk of transmission. We are not saying we want to be "carved out" (which doesn't make any sense, but okay) we are saying that we will not operate as if everything is fine. We demand the same level of protection as YOU have. If schools can't make any changes (won't provide adequate PPE, won't enforce a strict sick child policy, won't take temperatures, there isn't expanded testing capacity) then remote learning must continue.

LOL what?? The same level of protection that I, an “essential” worker have had? Sure babe. You can have a stack of cloth masks. Give me your address I’ll send them right over.

Do you work in a building with 1,000 people? Does your job involve working in one small room in close quarters with 30 kids, some of whom are coughing but their parent says “sorry! I’m at work.” And you can’t leave the room to wash your hands? And they share all of their materials all day (pencils, paints, play doh, calculators, base ten blocks, unifix cubes, legos, math manipulatives, magnetic letter tiles-just to name a few). And the room is also cleaned by you with supplies you purchase? And the kids call to you from the bathroom that they need help? And when you tell them to pack up for bussing they just sit there waiting for you to help them zip their bags and coats. And all day they need help blowing their noses and tying their shoelaces? And you literally can’t step outside for a second, even to use the bathroom. Is that what your job is like?
If you don’t have that kind of hands on contact with people all day then no, it is not the same.

DP. You want to get PPE? You realize that leaves less for the doctors and nurses who already don't have enough? How will that work? There cannot be distance learning in the fall. It's not working. The kids aren't learning anything. Are we just going to accept this as a lost year for all of these kids? ES kids cannot learn unless they are in a classroom, especially the kids who need that extra help. You seem hell bent on getting to "no" rather than figuring out how to make things work.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools will reopen mostly normal (no assemblies? maybe)

I think it’s overly optimistic teachers on this board suggesting otherwise.

I don’t quite follow who you think is being optimistic here.

The people being optimistic are the ones thinking school will open.

No, teachers who think the world will carve out teachers/schools specifically while the rest of the world is already reopening this month are the ones being optimistic. It’s not going to happen folks.

You are mistaken. If you think that teachers will go back to "school as normal" with kids packed into classrooms over capacity you are wrong. If your office is operating at half capacity schools should too. If there are no gatherings over 500 people permitted then schools should not be exempt. Schools are huge gathering places with a tremendous risk of transmission. We are not saying we want to be "carved out" (which doesn't make any sense, but okay) we are saying that we will not operate as if everything is fine. We demand the same level of protection as YOU have. If schools can't make any changes (won't provide adequate PPE, won't enforce a strict sick child policy, won't take temperatures, there isn't expanded testing capacity) then remote learning must continue.

LOL what?? The same level of protection that I, an “essential” worker have had? Sure babe. You can have a stack of cloth masks. Give me your address I’ll send them right over.

Do you work in a building with 1,000 people? Does your job involve working in one small room in close quarters with 30 kids, some of whom are coughing but their parent says “sorry! I’m at work.” And you can’t leave the room to wash your hands? And they share all of their materials all day (pencils, paints, play doh, calculators, base ten blocks, unifix cubes, legos, math manipulatives, magnetic letter tiles-just to name a few). And the room is also cleaned by you with supplies you purchase? And the kids call to you from the bathroom that they need help? And when you tell them to pack up for bussing they just sit there waiting for you to help them zip their bags and coats. And all day they need help blowing their noses and tying their shoelaces? And you literally can’t step outside for a second, even to use the bathroom. Is that what your job is like?
If you don’t have that kind of hands on contact with people all day then no, it is not the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools will reopen mostly normal (no assemblies? maybe)

I think it’s overly optimistic teachers on this board suggesting otherwise.

I don’t quite follow who you think is being optimistic here.

The people being optimistic are the ones thinking school will open.

No, teachers who think the world will carve out teachers/schools specifically while the rest of the world is already reopening this month are the ones being optimistic. It’s not going to happen folks.

You are mistaken. If you think that teachers will go back to "school as normal" with kids packed into classrooms over capacity you are wrong. If your office is operating at half capacity schools should too. If there are no gatherings over 500 people permitted then schools should not be exempt. Schools are huge gathering places with a tremendous risk of transmission. We are not saying we want to be "carved out" (which doesn't make any sense, but okay) we are saying that we will not operate as if everything is fine. We demand the same level of protection as YOU have. If schools can't make any changes (won't provide adequate PPE, won't enforce a strict sick child policy, won't take temperatures, there isn't expanded testing capacity) then remote learning must continue.

LOL what?? The same level of protection that I, an “essential” worker have had? Sure babe. You can have a stack of cloth masks. Give me your address I’ll send them right over.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools will reopen mostly normal (no assemblies? maybe)

I think it’s overly optimistic teachers on this board suggesting otherwise.

I don’t quite follow who you think is being optimistic here.

The people being optimistic are the ones thinking school will open.

No, teachers who think the world will carve out teachers/schools specifically while the rest of the world is already reopening this month are the ones being optimistic. It’s not going to happen folks.

You are mistaken. If you think that teachers will go back to "school as normal" with kids packed into classrooms over capacity you are wrong. If your office is operating at half capacity schools should too. If there are no gatherings over 500 people permitted then schools should not be exempt. Schools are huge gathering places with a tremendous risk of transmission. We are not saying we want to be "carved out" (which doesn't make any sense, but okay) we are saying that we will not operate as if everything is fine. We demand the same level of protection as YOU have. If schools can't make any changes (won't provide adequate PPE, won't enforce a strict sick child policy, won't take temperatures, there isn't expanded testing capacity) then remote learning must continue.

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Anonymous wrote:I would like to be provided funding to pay for what works for my family. We need (1) internet connection reimbursement (it's ridiculous that we are paying for required school supplies); (2) workbooks that we like on Amazon; (3) lessons that work for us on Outschool.

I have spent hundreds of dollars since this started and would like some reimbursement.

If the teacher will be doing it, please do SMALL groups of 3-5 kids per class (break it up) so you meet with the same kids every week one day at the same time for one hour. Large classes of over 8 kids does NOT work well. The teacher should then provide workbooks (copies with stples every week is a disorganized mess and does NOT work) at th kids level (like my kid is using a workbook for 5th graders and is in 2nd grade because that is his level). And have some funding for other interests (like art supply, science lab supply, etc). It is expensive!

So would the teachers, but that's not gonna happen LOL

Wait, you as a parent want to be reimbursed for the money you spent on your kid? You're joking right? I easily spend about 2K year on my students. Not my own children, my students. Wanna know how much money I get reimbursed per year? Zero. I can claim a whopping $250 a year on my taxes though.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools will reopen mostly normal (no assemblies? maybe)

I think it’s overly optimistic teachers on this board suggesting otherwise.

I don’t quite follow who you think is being optimistic here.

The people being optimistic are the ones thinking school will open.

I went past Home Depot on Friday packed, as was the grocery store. Fly over in DC and other states large groups, folks are already comingling and not following distance rules so how schools going to say we can't open. I think it's a terrible idea but as I see it from driving aroiund, folks already mixing and mingling and giving self-isolating a big fat finger!!!! Need to prepare and plan for Covid 20 in the Fall with online learning and allow those who don't want to or can't come in to join class online!

Oxygen is the first and the most important tool in prevention and fight with viruses that are distributed by the air. So this is for the Air exchange so important in such case.

1. Make classes shorter but breaks between the classes longer, Health first.
Scatter the groups per age so the are not doing it all at once but per class level:
All kids outside between the classes for solid 10 minutes so they can exchange he oxygen in their lungs fully and completely, not by breathing the stinky recycled vent air but the pure oxygen that GROWING human body needs so much. This is what is done in many countries around the world.

The ventilation system should be set to blow harder during this time with windows open to allow for recycling of the fresh air.

2, While there is nobody in the Hallways during the class time, the Hallways should have extensive super powerful air exchange capacity. Nowadays HS hallways are hot and stuffy without kids in them, let alone with kids in them. This should be upgraded somehow.

3. Kids class assignment:
The kids should be grouped in different way. There is too much unnecessary scattering kids all over the schedule. The kids should stick
with the same group to limit the exchange with more kids. Wherever possible the same group of kids should follow he same schedule from the first class o the last class.


4. Class blocks:
Classes should happen in one shot instead of being offered twice a week or more. This way the same kids stay in the same group
and les mingling and less germ exchange.


Side note: ALL classrooms should have simple window installed IN /OUT vents that the teacher could turn on and off as needed
to exchange the air fast and efficiently while kids are outside.