Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on here who jumps on every STA post and claims some ridiculously inflated STA college stats. They're like a bee to honey; they must have a STA college post alert on their phone.

Per STA's OWN website graduates from the past 5 years attended the following schools: (list below) There are plenty of good schools but AT LEAST 50% are schools under the top 50.

I'm an NCS parent and know the STA crowd well. The kids I know going to Princeton and Harvard this year are 1)legacy 2)children of VIPs.

If you think you are going to send your kid to STA (or NCS) and they're going to just march off to an Ivy league school or similar you are seriously deluded.

Having seen this play out for a few years you are far better off sending your kid to a good public if you're not a VIP.

American University
Amherst College
Auburn University
Babson College
Bates College
Birmingham-Southern College
Boston College
Boston University
Bowdoin College
University of British Columbia
Brown University
Bucknell University
University of California at Berkeley
University of California at Los Angeles
University of California at Santa Barbara
Carleton College
Carnegie Mellon University
Case Western Reserve University
Catholic University of America
University of Chicago
Claremont McKenna College
Clemson University
Colby College
Colgate University
College of Charleston
University of Colorado at Boulder
Columbia University
Connecticut College
Cornell University
Dartmouth College
Davidson College
Denison University
Drew University
Duke University
University of Edinburgh, UK
Elon University
Emory University
Georgetown University
Georgia Institute of Technology
Hamilton College
Harvard University
Harvey Mudd College
Haverford College
Hillsdale College
Imperial College London, UK
Indiana University
Johns Hopkins University
Kenyon College
Lehigh University
University of Maryland at College Park
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Miami University, Ohio
University of Miami
University of Michigan
Middlebury College
Montgomery College
Morehouse College
Mount St. Mary's University
The New School
New York University
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Northeastern University
Northwestern University
University of Notre Dame
Oberlin College
Occidental College
University of Oxford, UK
Pennsylvania State University
University of Pennsylvania
Pomona College
Princeton University
Providence College
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Rhode Island School of Design
Rice University
University of Richmond
Rochester Institute of Technology
Santa Clara University
Sewanee: The University of the South
Shepherd University
University of Southern California
Southern Methodist University
University of St. Andrews, UK
University of Stirling, UK
St. John’s University
St. Mary’s College of Maryland
Stanford University
Swarthmore College
Syracuse University
University of Texas at Austin
University of Toronto
Trinity College
Tufts University
Tulane University
United States Military Academy
United States Naval Academy
Vanderbilt University
University of Vermont
University of Virginia
Wake Forest University
Washington University in St. Louis
Washington & Lee University
Wesleyan University
Whittier College
Whitworth University
College of William & Mary
Williams College
University of Wisconsin at Madison
Wofford College
College of Wooster
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Yale University

Anonymous wrote:STA's admissions book also reports Indiana University at Bloomington as a "college enrolling the most students in the past 5 years". Also listed is the University of Miami. Nothing wrong with these schools, just not top 25 or even top 50 and included in the group of attended by most STA students. Tulane, ranked 40th by USNWR, is the third most popular school attended by STA grads (13 grads went in the past 5 years). Again, nothing wrong with these schools but certainly not top 25 or even top 50 (besides Tulane). Just showing that going to STA does not guarantee top college admissions as some have tried to claim. Everyone focuses on the top schools and don't pay attention to the numbers of students who attend lesser schools, even though it is the majority.

Anonymous wrote:The U Chicago pipeline no longer exists for STA.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t school can really change the basic qualities of a boy - his intelligence, resilience, drive. Remember a lot of the STA kids get a significant leg up because they are the grandson of senator so and so. And still the college placement is not stellar. If you’re UMC, you’ll do just as well at a good public school. You won’t be competing for the Harvard spot with someone like Al Gore VII

Actually, in our experience, the reverse is true.

That is, the people in the college counselling office are generally appalled when someone "jumps the line" whether that's because of "connections", the college being interested in the celebrity son or grandson, or even Athletics. The counselors know this happens every year, but they have little power to prevent it.

They are the ones that have to try and explain to the parents of the smart, hard-working kid, who didn't get into his or her school of choice, how weaker students were accepted.

College counselors would much prefer a more orderly, predictable college admissions process in which applicants are judged on a more objective basis.

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia’s acceptance is around 7%. Cornell 12%. St Albans’s college acceptance isn’ t that great. A good student might get into Kenyon or UChicago.

40 out of 80 or so went so went to Yale, Harvard, Chicago, Princeton, Columbia and Penn last year. 7 alone went to Yale. Sorry, so wrong.

This is a bold face lie! Don't believe the hype.

Don’t know about 40/80, but the top 25% at STA get into Ivies, Stanford, MIT. The next 25% go to SLACs, UCB, UCLA, UVA. The bottom 59% go to strong schools - think Top 50 — but not necessarily the most competitive schools.

The last several years, the top 25% at STA and NCS have done better at college placement than the top 25% at Sidwell or GDS. some will argue that this is due to a legacy and wealth factor, but those are also present at GDS and Sidwell.

The number one school top STA boys feed into is University of Chicago, 38 in the past five years to be exact. That is about 7 students per year and is the number one school for STA grads by more than double of any other school.

The bottom 60% do not attend top 50 schools, sorry. They attend top 150 or less. Think University of Maryland, American University, Miami University, Elon, Wofford College, Indiana University, College of Wooster, Hillsdale College, Montgomery College, Penn State, St. John's College, College of Charleston, Catholic University, GW University, Auburn University, Drew University, University of Colorado Boulder, Sewanee: University of the South, Southern Methodist, University of Vermont, and St. Mary's College of Maryland just to name a few attended by STA grads. There is a big difference between the top students who attend great colleges and the remaining majority (60%) who attend very average colleges. STA may get to hand select their students, but they don't all end up at top universities.

Montgomery College???