Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 22:16     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t think anyone is saying that there aren’t students living on campus. Just that compared to many colleges, there is a larger percent who live at home with parents and come from the immediate area.


That was true in the 90s, not anymore

Among Virginia state schools it is true.
2019-2020, percent of first-time, first year students who live in college-owned, -operated, or -affiliated housing:
UVA - 100%
Virginia Tech - 99%
William and Mary - 99%
James Madison - 98%
Christopher Newport University - 98%
Longwood - 96%
Radford - 91%
VCU - 82%
Old Dominion University - 72%
GMU - 62%

Per common data set
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 21:30     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t think anyone is saying that there aren’t students living on campus. Just that compared to many colleges, there is a larger percent who live at home with parents and come from the immediate area.


That was true in the 90s, not anymore
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 21:17     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. OP, you're being misled if you are seriously comparing the two. The fact - not opinion, fact - is that GMU is a residential community college. It places engineers, but any engineer can be placed. The program is entirely unimpressive and no one regards it as an actual university education.



The Volgenau School of Engineering is one of the best programs at GMU. https://volgenau.gmu.edu/


PP here. No question - academically, it may be the very best thing about GMU. And that means little; it's still GMU.


You clearly are very old or very elite, or both. Not everyone in the DMV area gets to go to Ivies. Not everyone has the money. GMU is a great school with a lot of spirit, great dorms, state-of-the-art facilities, and enthusiastic faculty who help the students get placed in high demand STEM jobs. Sorry you have an axe to grind but I invite you to go out and tour one day and see what you are missing.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 21:07     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. OP, you're being misled if you are seriously comparing the two. The fact - not opinion, fact - is that GMU is a residential community college. It places engineers, but any engineer can be placed. The program is entirely unimpressive and no one regards it as an actual university education.



The Volgenau School of Engineering is one of the best programs at GMU. https://volgenau.gmu.edu/


PP here. No question - academically, it may be the very best thing about GMU. And that means little; it's still GMU.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 20:04     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

I have a DS in the engineering department studying cybersecurity. He lives on campus and will continue to do so. Cybersecurity falls under engineering. The grads can call the shots with placement because there is such demand and so few programs in cybersecurity. https://www2.gmu.edu/academics/engineering
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 20:00     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t think anyone is saying that there aren’t students living on campus. Just that compared to many colleges, there is a larger percent who live at home with parents and come from the immediate area.

She’s been posting this argument for like 8 years. I swear she has some sort of alert set up to notify her whenever a post containing “GMU” and “commuter school” comes up.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 19:59     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Interesting article from a George Mason student:

http://gmufourthestate.com/2019/09/09/mason-is-a-commuter-school/
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 19:58     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous wrote:NP. OP, you're being misled if you are seriously comparing the two. The fact - not opinion, fact - is that GMU is a residential community college. It places engineers, but any engineer can be placed. The program is entirely unimpressive and no one regards it as an actual university education.



The Volgenau School of Engineering is one of the best programs at GMU. https://volgenau.gmu.edu/
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 19:57     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

NP. OP, you're being misled if you are seriously comparing the two. The fact - not opinion, fact - is that GMU is a residential community college. It places engineers, but any engineer can be placed. The program is entirely unimpressive and no one regards it as an actual university education.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 19:24     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

NP. I don’t think anyone is saying that there aren’t students living on campus. Just that compared to many colleges, there is a larger percent who live at home with parents and come from the immediate area.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 19:13     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous[b wrote:]GMU is definitely a commuter school,[/b] anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is deluding themselves, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t people on campus and things to do. And there’s nothing wrong with commuters, especially because a lot of them are older and life experiences that are a bit more interesting than the 18 year old straight out of high school. If making friends is something he’s worried about I would definitely recommend living on campus.

In the end, I feel like if this kid is reaching for that stereotypical college experience, GMU is NOT that. If he’s looking to get his degree and a good education that will prepare him for his career of choice and then move on with life, GMU is a good option. It is a very practical choice and most people i know who came in understanding what GMU is and isn’t were very satisfied with their decision to come here — myself included. It is also much closer to jobs and internships and more diverse.



Guess I should tell my DD's international roommates that they have to commute (10.8% of GMU's students are international). Come to think of it, I guess I have to tell her 00S roommates that too. (20% of GMU's students are OOS).
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 19:00     Subject: Re:Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GMU does a good job with the DC kids who need financial aid and helps them with the transition to college.
VT is harder for the urban kids to get to and fit in.


+1 GMU has way more low-income city kids, kids who transfer from CC and is good at supporting them.


And Va tech has more kids in overalls and majoring in animal husbandry.

What’s wrong with overalls and animal husbandry?


Nothing is wrong with kids who transfer from cc either, just providing contrast.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 18:58     Subject: Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous wrote:GMU is definitely a commuter school, anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is deluding themselves, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t people on campus and things to do. And there’s nothing wrong with commuters, especially because a lot of them are older and life experiences that are a bit more interesting than the 18 year old straight out of high school. If making friends is something he’s worried about I would definitely recommend living on campus.

In the end, I feel like if this kid is reaching for that stereotypical college experience, GMU is NOT that. If he’s looking to get his degree and a good education that will prepare him for his career of choice and then move on with life, GMU is a good option. It is a very practical choice and most people i know who came in understanding what GMU is and isn’t were very satisfied with their decision to come here — myself included. It is also much closer to jobs and internships and more diverse.



Hah! Carnegie foundation reclassified GMU from commuter to a residential college more than a decade ago. All freshman are required to live on campus. You can file for a waiver if you want it. It's now a top flight research university.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 18:57     Subject: Re:Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GMU does a good job with the DC kids who need financial aid and helps them with the transition to college.
VT is harder for the urban kids to get to and fit in.


+1 GMU has way more low-income city kids, kids who transfer from CC and is good at supporting them.


And Va tech has more kids in overalls and majoring in animal husbandry.

What’s wrong with overalls and animal husbandry?
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2020 18:56     Subject: Re:Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GMU does a good job with the DC kids who need financial aid and helps them with the transition to college.
VT is harder for the urban kids to get to and fit in.


+1 GMU has way more low-income city kids, kids who transfer from CC and is good at supporting them.


And Va tech has more kids in overalls and majoring in animal husbandry.