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Anonymous wrote:Adam and Eve is a hypothetical story, not factual. There are 2 creation stories and they are not combined.
The story is meant to be hypothetical and it is.

Which is exactly what the Roman Catholic Church teaches, by the way. Also heaven and hell are not physical places one "goes to."

Really, what is it then? And what goes up there? Your soul I guess, but is that material or immaterial? Thank you. I am interested in this?

I am interested in this.

PP from above. Heaven is not a physical place. It is the state of knowing God in the afterlife.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.orthodoxroad.com/the-harrowing-of-hades/

The Gospel of Nicodemus describes what happens between Christ’s death and resurrection. During this time, he descended into Hades and pulled up Adam and Eve. This is always part of Lenten services in the Orthodox Church.

Not scripture.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam and Eve is a hypothetical story, not factual. There are 2 creation stories and they are not combined.
The story is meant to be hypothetical and it is.

Which is exactly what the Roman Catholic Church teaches, by the way. Also heaven and hell are not physical places one "goes to."

Really, what is it then? And what goes up there? Your soul I guess, but is that material or immaterial? Thank you. I am interested in this?

I am interested in this.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam and Eve is a hypothetical story, not factual. There are 2 creation stories and they are not combined.
The story is meant to be hypothetical and it is.

Which is exactly what the Roman Catholic Church teaches, by the way. Also heaven and hell are not physical places one "goes to."

Really, what is it then? And what goes up there? Your soul I guess, but is that material or immaterial? Thank you. I am interested in this?

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Anonymous wrote:Adam and Eve is a hypothetical story, not factual. There are 2 creation stories and they are not combined.
The story is meant to be hypothetical and it is.

Which is exactly what the Roman Catholic Church teaches, by the way. Also heaven and hell are not physical places one "goes to."

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With all the scientific knowledge we now have showing the earth has existed for billions of years you still believe there was an “Adam”?

Actually science tells us there was a Mitochondrial Eve and a Y Chromosomal Adam. Single individuals who we are all descended from through our mothers or fathers.

Hey, also mention these things, why dontcha:

- Mitochondrial Eve is hypothetical and that term is a euphemism
- She and Y Chromosomal Adam may not have lived at the same time
- Science also tells us there were antecedents
- None of this - NONE - is in support of or consistent with biblical scripture or young earth creationism. No. Not yours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

I cannot believe people believe stories that aren't even in the bible

I cannot believe that people believe stories that are in the Bible.

I can’t believe non-believers spend hours here. Or think being catty is going to change anybody’s mind.

Why can't you believe that?

And what is wrong with PP who just corrected science misinformation and provided information to support it?

I'm the PP that originally posted that Mitochondrial Eve, there was no science misinformation in my post. I didn't say that she lived at the same time as Y chromosomal Adam, or that they didn't have antecedents, or that they lived a certain number of years ago. I certainly didn't say her actual name was Eve.

I'm not a Young Earth Creationist. I am religious, but I don't believe that Old Testament stories are history that is meant to be taken literally. I do think it's interesting to look at the ways that people made sense of the origins of the world, before they had access to modern science, and that while they obviously didn't figure out a lot of the details, this idea, that we are all descended from the same woman, that we have, so to speak a common mother, is in fact true.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lying_by_omission

NP and you’re ridiculous. PP was totally straight-forward. Unlike your silly post that ascribes to pp all kinds of things she never said.

Anonymous wrote:Adam and Eve is a hypothetical story, not factual. There are 2 creation stories and they are not combined.
The story is meant to be hypothetical and it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam and Eve is a hypothetical story, not factual. There are 2 creation stories and they are not combined.
The story is meant to be hypothetical and it is.

+1. Exactly

The minister in me has to bite my tongue all the time about the Bible. I’m an Interfaith Hospice Chaplain so I work with people from all faith paths. And none. I get quizzed about this shi7 several times a month by family members. I stay professional and respectful, but the fear these poor people have grown up with causes so much pain. Especially when they are facing their death or the death of a loved one.

An early poster asked which parts of the Bible should be taken literally. My answer is almost none of it. (I want to emphasize this is my belief.) Scripture was written thousands of years ago in languages that we don’t even fully understand. And it’s been translated and retranslated over and over again, mostly by men with a vested interest in the outcome of the translation. We have no evidence that Jesus ever wrote anything at all. Scripture is important. I love it! By studying sacred texts, we learn a lot about the people, the politics, the religious beliefs, history, and most importantly, ourselves and our Creator. But it was never meant to be a science or a history text.

Jesus spoke in parables all the time. Do you think he was really suggesting we shove a camel through the eye of a needle? Or, was he explaining how important it is for us to guard against greed? Do you really believe Jesus fed thousands with five loaves of bread and two fish? Or was he teaching compassion, sacrifice, service, empathy, and love?

The writers of biblical scripture (and we can’t even prove definitively who they were) were using simple stories to explain complex spiritual truths. They are scared stories. We should read them and try to understand them. But they are stories. A more modern example is “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”. No one believes a child was gobbled by a wolf. But the story illustrates the Importance of honesty. And it does so powerfully because it is so simple.

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+1

With all the scientific knowledge we now have showing the earth has existed for billions of years you still believe there was an “Adam”?

Actually science tells us there was a Mitochondrial Eve and a Y Chromosomal Adam. Single individuals who we are all descended from through our mothers or fathers.

Hey, also mention these things, why dontcha:

- Mitochondrial Eve is hypothetical and that term is a euphemism
- She and Y Chromosomal Adam may not have lived at the same time
- Science also tells us there were antecedents
- None of this - NONE - is in support of or consistent with biblical scripture or young earth creationism. No. Not yours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

I cannot believe people believe stories that aren't even in the bible

I cannot believe that people believe stories that are in the Bible.

I can’t believe non-believers spend hours here. Or think being catty is going to change anybody’s mind.

Why can't you believe that?

And what is wrong with PP who just corrected science misinformation and provided information to support it?

I'm the PP that originally posted that Mitochondrial Eve, there was no science misinformation in my post. I didn't say that she lived at the same time as Y chromosomal Adam, or that they didn't have antecedents, or that they lived a certain number of years ago. I certainly didn't say her actual name was Eve.

I'm not a Young Earth Creationist. I am religious, but I don't believe that Old Testament stories are history that is meant to be taken literally. I do think it's interesting to look at the ways that people made sense of the origins of the world, before they had access to modern science, and that while they obviously didn't figure out a lot of the details, this idea, that we are all descended from the same woman, that we have, so to speak a common mother, is in fact true.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lying_by_omission

Anonymous wrote:At mass today online it was mentioned right after Jesus opened gates of Heaven he pulled Adam up. First I ever heard. Kinda makes sense he was waiting the longest. But what about Eve? Did she go to Hell or Heaven?

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Anonymous wrote:Nonsense.

+1

With all the scientific knowledge we now have showing the earth has existed for billions of years you still believe there was an “Adam”?

Actually science tells us there was a Mitochondrial Eve and a Y Chromosomal Adam. Single individuals who we are all descended from through our mothers or fathers.

Hey, also mention these things, why dontcha:

- Mitochondrial Eve is hypothetical and that term is a euphemism
- She and Y Chromosomal Adam may not have lived at the same time
- Science also tells us there were antecedents
- None of this - NONE - is in support of or consistent with biblical scripture or young earth creationism. No. Not yours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

I cannot believe people believe stories that aren't even in the bible

I cannot believe that people believe stories that are in the Bible.

I can’t believe non-believers spend hours here. Or think being catty is going to change anybody’s mind.

Why can't you believe that?

And what is wrong with PP who just corrected science misinformation and provided information to support it?

I'm the PP that originally posted that Mitochondrial Eve, there was no science misinformation in my post. I didn't say that she lived at the same time as Y chromosomal Adam, or that they didn't have antecedents, or that they lived a certain number of years ago. I certainly didn't say her actual name was Eve.

I'm not a Young Earth Creationist. I am religious, but I don't believe that Old Testament stories are history that is meant to be taken literally. I do think it's interesting to look at the ways that people made sense of the origins of the world, before they had access to modern science, and that while they obviously didn't figure out a lot of the details, this idea, that we are all descended from the same woman, that we have, so to speak a common mother, is in fact true.

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Anonymous wrote:Nonsense.

+1

With all the scientific knowledge we now have showing the earth has existed for billions of years you still believe there was an “Adam”?

Actually science tells us there was a Mitochondrial Eve and a Y Chromosomal Adam. Single individuals who we are all descended from through our mothers or fathers.

Hey, also mention these things, why dontcha:

- Mitochondrial Eve is hypothetical and that term is a euphemism
- She and Y Chromosomal Adam may not have lived at the same time
- Science also tells us there were antecedents
- None of this - NONE - is in support of or consistent with biblical scripture or young earth creationism. No. Not yours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

I cannot believe people believe stories that aren't even in the bible

I cannot believe that people believe stories that are in the Bible.

I can’t believe non-believers spend hours here. Or think being catty is going to change anybody’s mind.

Why can't you believe that?

And what is wrong with PP who just corrected science misinformation and provided information to support it?