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Post 03/30/2020 10:55     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that Michiganders view UM-Ann Arbor as a school for the in-state privileged and the out-of-state affluent.

Of course, if the football team doesn't start winning big games, all of that could change.


You didn't hear that Michigan is s now a basketball school? Seriously, nobody in the Big 10 can complete with Ohio State. Now that so many players stay for only three years and couldn't give a crap about a degree, Michigan has lost a recruiting edge.


Give it a few years. Urban Meyer is gone and the current OSU coach is no proven commodity.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2020 10:48     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that Michiganders view UM-Ann Arbor as a school for the in-state privileged and the out-of-state affluent.

Of course, if the football team doesn't start winning big games, all of that could change.


You didn't hear that Michigan is s now a basketball school? Seriously, nobody in the Big 10 can complete with Ohio State. Now that so many players stay for only three years and couldn't give a crap about a degree, Michigan has lost a recruiting edge.

U of M is by far the academic leader. Also, In the last 5 years, U of M has been in the Final 4(basketball), Frozen 4(hockey), and the College World Series(baseball). Football has let us down recently.

- Michigan Alumni
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2020 10:44     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Anonymous wrote:My impression is that Michiganders view UM-Ann Arbor as a school for the in-state privileged and the out-of-state affluent.

Of course, if the football team doesn't start winning big games, all of that could change.


You didn't hear that Michigan is s now a basketball school? Seriously, nobody in the Big 10 can complete with Ohio State. Now that so many players stay for only three years and couldn't give a crap about a degree, Michigan has lost a recruiting edge.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2020 10:43     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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Anonymous wrote:If your kid goes to UM for college, safe bet they won’t be living in Michigan after college. Almost a certainty they’ll be working in Chicago if not Seattle, California, D.C. or New York.

UVA kids on average tend to stick around D.C.


Agree with this. None of my DCs Michigander friends are living in Michigan. Although they are recent grads so some might go back at some point? And I don’t think any of DCs OOS friends (including DC) stayed in Michigan, except to stay on at UMich for grad school.


It's simple - a lack of opportunity in the Detroit Metro Area. The region is not growing.


+1
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2020 10:41     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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Anonymous wrote:MSU also has some type of scholarship program that is similar to but smaller than the Michigan Honors Program but comes with a lot of money. Some really top notch students choose MSU over Michigan for that reason as well.



It's so obvious you're MSU alum from college confidential with 100k posts.


It's the Honors College, which is a different ball game. These areas of any flagship are generally top notch.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2020 10:14     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Anonymous wrote:MSU also has some type of scholarship program that is similar to but smaller than the Michigan Honors Program but comes with a lot of money. Some really top notch students choose MSU over Michigan for that reason as well.



It's so obvious you're MSU alum from college confidential with 100k posts.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2020 07:54     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My impression is that Michiganders view UM-Ann Arbor as a school for the in-state privileged and the out-of-state affluent.

Of course, if the football team doesn't start winning big games, all of that could change.


I agree, but this is an incomplete picture because Michigan always has a wide mix of students from all over the state. Michigan also has many fans who are not affluent.

Has no one heard of the Walmart Wolverine?
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2020 07:47     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Anonymous wrote:My impression is that Michiganders view UM-Ann Arbor as a school for the in-state privileged and the out-of-state affluent.

Of course, if the football team doesn't start winning big games, all of that could change.


I agree, but this is an incomplete picture because Michigan always has a wide mix of students from all over the state. Michigan also has many fans who are not affluent.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2020 07:43     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Michigan and MSU feel different. Michigan's "Diag" is usually bustling and Ann Arbor is arguably the best college town anywhere. MSU is more tranquil, with many trees and a river running through campus. East Lansing is also less active.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2020 07:39     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
MSU also has some type of scholarship program that is similar to but smaller than the Michigan Honors Program but comes with a lot of money. Some really top notch students choose MSU over Michigan for that reason as well.

Anonymous
Post 03/29/2020 22:24     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
My impression is that Michiganders view UM-Ann Arbor as a school for the in-state privileged and the out-of-state affluent.

Of course, if the football team doesn't start winning big games, all of that could change.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2020 15:48     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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Anonymous wrote:If your kid goes to UM for college, safe bet they won’t be living in Michigan after college. Almost a certainty they’ll be working in Chicago if not Seattle, California, D.C. or New York.

UVA kids on average tend to stick around D.C.


Agree with this. None of my DCs Michigander friends are living in Michigan. Although they are recent grads so some might go back at some point? And I don’t think any of DCs OOS friends (including DC) stayed in Michigan, except to stay on at UMich for grad school.


It's simple - a lack of opportunity in the Detroit Metro Area. The region is not growing.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2020 11:32     Subject: Re:Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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Anonymous wrote:Overall I’d say UM is a better school and has more name recognition outside of the Midwest, but Michigan State has some nationally ranked programs that are better than the equivalent offered at UM (education and supply chain are two that come to mind).

The college experience is similar at both schools - huge student population, big sports schools.

I’ve known many people who went to both schools who went on to obtain graduate or professional degrees and are doing very well. I’ve also known students from both schools who are also doing fine and supporting their families but don’t have the type of high-powered careers that DCUM seems to prefer.



Don’t delude yourself into thinking Michigan State is significantly better than UM at really anything.

Supply chain is #1 at Michigan State but 5 at UM.

As for education, Michigan is 8 and Michigan State isn’t even in the top 20, so not sure where you’re getting that one from.


You seem to be conveniently forgetting that State is the #1 or 2 school in the country for Hospitality Management. Production Management is top 10.


University of Michigan does not have a program in hospitality management, nor a production management.


Understand. However it doesn't negate the fact that State does have those programs and they are top programs in the country/world. Sigh.


Lots of school have specific programs better than the overall University ranking.


Yeah, but looking at MSU's ranking on USNWR, I'm barely seeing anything notable outside of agriculture and supply chain management (which, again, is barely higher than Michigan's supply chain ranking).
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2020 11:29     Subject: Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Anonymous wrote:If your kid goes to UM for college, safe bet they won’t be living in Michigan after college. Almost a certainty they’ll be working in Chicago if not Seattle, California, D.C. or New York.

UVA kids on average tend to stick around D.C.


Agree with this. None of my DCs Michigander friends are living in Michigan. Although they are recent grads so some might go back at some point? And I don’t think any of DCs OOS friends (including DC) stayed in Michigan, except to stay on at UMich for grad school.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2020 03:24     Subject: Re:Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Overall I’d say UM is a better school and has more name recognition outside of the Midwest, but Michigan State has some nationally ranked programs that are better than the equivalent offered at UM (education and supply chain are two that come to mind).

The college experience is similar at both schools - huge student population, big sports schools.

I’ve known many people who went to both schools who went on to obtain graduate or professional degrees and are doing very well. I’ve also known students from both schools who are also doing fine and supporting their families but don’t have the type of high-powered careers that DCUM seems to prefer.



Don’t delude yourself into thinking Michigan State is significantly better than UM at really anything.

Supply chain is #1 at Michigan State but 5 at UM.

As for education, Michigan is 8 and Michigan State isn’t even in the top 20, so not sure where you’re getting that one from.


You seem to be conveniently forgetting that State is the #1 or 2 school in the country for Hospitality Management. Production Management is top 10.


University of Michigan does not have a program in hospitality management, nor a production management.


Understand. However it doesn't negate the fact that State does have those programs and they are top programs in the country/world. Sigh.


Lots of school have specific programs better than the overall University ranking.