Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 13:05     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
Anonymous wrote:In fact, some boys' Ecnl clubs made the top 100, when several boys' DAs didn't.


Well, don't get to carries away with being a top 100 team or club when at U18/19 there are only 98 DA teams, at U16/17 there are only 108.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:56     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
In fact, some boys' Ecnl clubs made the top 100, when several boys' DAs didn't.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:55     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
Anonymous wrote:ECNL boys is NOT ECNL girls.

Don't intermix the 2


But it's getting there. A lot of good clubs denied DA are in it.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:52     Subject: Re:Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
Anonymous wrote:No natter if u use the above idea or something else...soccer for young teens needs to be more inclusive not less. Cheaper, less travel, more players. No sense is limiting the pool so young. Makes no sense.


This is where people are of two minds. I happen to think it is a good approach for the reasons you say, however, there are people who have bought into the exclusivity model that ECNL and DA provide.

Image wise, while ECNL will end up the largest league in the nation, it will certainly take a hit on its exclusivity. For those who believe in promotion relegation your time is nearly upon you.

So, what this will mean for those kids who do wish to showcase they will have to be very selective about the particular team they join in hopes that they win their way into the larger quality showcases.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:47     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Real Colorado is one of the super clubs, look at the amount of NT players that played there. Big loss for the DA


They will either continue to call the players up or tell them they need to move to a DA to stay in the system. Eventually, US Soccer will simply stop calling up ECNL players and they will let them know why they are no longer being called up. The players will then have to decide if playing in a Part-time league is worth the college scholarship that a NT Training camp can provide is worth it.


No one cares. You are talking about 20 kids nationally. Is that all the DA people have...the carrot of a callup?

99.9 percent of the players know by U15 that they are not on that path.



Who cares about dilution? It is better to have more options for everyone. It is better to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. The mission of DA is not to have one super team per area. It is to develop players. The super team model leaves a lot of individual out. You know how it works. They are only taking 18-19 players. Would you really want only one DA or ECNL team for this area? Make one team out of the following clubs -Loudoun, Arlington, BSC, FCV, SYA and VDA(add who ever you want). Now tell me some talented players with potent are not left out.

DA/ECNL should not start till u15. Spend the resources on having 4 team per age group broken down by birth month for u12 and below. So at u9 one team is January-March, the next is April-June, etc. This would increase the talent pool at u15 by 3 times. There are just as many potential soccer players in the Oct-Dec birth months as there are in the Jan-March birth months but some how the Oct-Dec group only represents maybe 10% of the top team players. The Jan-March group represents close to 75%.



Or just do ODP.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:43     Subject: Re:Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
No natter if u use the above idea or something else...soccer for young teens needs to be more inclusive not less. Cheaper, less travel, more players. No sense is limiting the pool so young. Makes no sense.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:42     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
Anonymous wrote:ECNL boys is NOT ECNL girls.

Don't intermix the 2


And the boys side will be beta testing this approach. But ECNL is Regionalizing their NPL leagues all across the country. Like it or not, this is the direction they are heading towards. US Club Soccer is the parent organization of both leagues and they will likely find it in their best interest to capitalize on the ECNL brand, roll in NPL clubs and create smaller regionalized divisions witht he best teams per division earning their way into the national showcase events and playoffs.

They do have to go NPL by NPL to get buy in from the member clubs and leagues but this is the ultimate goal.

It comes with some pros and cons.

Obviously the league will be watered down, which is why they are more than happy to give PDA, Michigan and Real Colorado two teams per division, they simply don't care.

The greatest PRO is the potential for a less travel intensive league with the potential for real national level Promotion/Relegation.

But, in a very short time the proposed VA ECNL Conference is likely going to be very, very real.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:39     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Real Colorado is one of the super clubs, look at the amount of NT players that played there. Big loss for the DA


They will either continue to call the players up or tell them they need to move to a DA to stay in the system. Eventually, US Soccer will simply stop calling up ECNL players and they will let them know why they are no longer being called up. The players will then have to decide if playing in a Part-time league is worth the college scholarship that a NT Training camp can provide is worth it.


No one cares. You are talking about 20 kids nationally. Is that all the DA people have...the carrot of a callup?

99.9 percent of the players know by U15 that they are not on that path.



Who cares about dilution? It is better to have more options for everyone. It is better to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. The mission of DA is not to have one super team per area. It is to develop players. The super team model leaves a lot of individual out. You know how it works. They are only taking 18-19 players. Would you really want only one DA or ECNL team for this area? Make one team out of the following clubs -Loudoun, Arlington, BSC, FCV, SYA and VDA(add who ever you want). Now tell me some talented players with potent are not left out.

DA/ECNL should not start till u15. Spend the resources on having 4 team per age group broken down by birth month for u12 and below. So at u9 one team is January-March, the next is April-June, etc. This would increase the talent pool at u15 by 3 times. There are just as many potential soccer players in the Oct-Dec birth months as there are in the Jan-March birth months but some how the Oct-Dec group only represents maybe 10% of the top team players. The Jan-March group represents close to 75%.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:38     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
SOCAL forum is reporting that the following rumor may have legs..

"San Jose Quakes have decided to dissolve their girls DA program because of finances despite being a pay to play model."

Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:36     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No.....

ECNL gave them an ultimatum last year.

Real Colorado had 1 DA and 1 ECNL team. They were forced to choose and they went DA.

A year later, the are back.

And for your information, Real Colorado has the talent, like PDA, Hawks, Stars, etc to field two quality teams.


It is still a B team playing in a "Elite" league.

Here is your ECNL Conference in 2 years.

Loudoun
McLean
BRYC
VDA
CYA
PWSI
VSA
VYS
Strikers
Kickers
Tidewater
Villareal

The current ECNL Mid Atlantic is 11 teams an aligned VA Conference would be 12 teams. The bright side is travel will be reduced. The downside is, pick your team appropriately because only the top teams will get to the good national events.


Nice trolling.


Is it really trolling or the direction that ECNL is heading?

https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-soccer-articles/ecnl-launches-new-boys-conference_aid47739


So Richmond United is imploding now?
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:35     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Perhaps a better communication from clubs to families about what this conference is and where it goes (?)


Lol
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:32     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
ECNL boys is NOT ECNL girls.

Don't intermix the 2
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:30     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
Mid atlantic conference will be rounded off with 12 clubs

ECNL regional League is the 2nd tier for ECNL
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:28     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
Perhaps a better communication from clubs to families about what this conference is and where it goes (?)
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 12:25     Subject: Real Colorado leaves DA to join ECNL
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No.....

ECNL gave them an ultimatum last year.

Real Colorado had 1 DA and 1 ECNL team. They were forced to choose and they went DA.

A year later, the are back.

And for your information, Real Colorado has the talent, like PDA, Hawks, Stars, etc to field two quality teams.


It is still a B team playing in a "Elite" league.

Here is your ECNL Conference in 2 years.

Loudoun
McLean
BRYC
VDA
CYA
PWSI
VSA
VYS
Strikers
Kickers
Tidewater
Villareal

The current ECNL Mid Atlantic is 11 teams an aligned VA Conference would be 12 teams. The bright side is travel will be reduced. The downside is, pick your team appropriately because only the top teams will get to the good national events.


Nice trolling.


Is it really trolling or the direction that ECNL is heading?

https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-soccer-articles/ecnl-launches-new-boys-conference_aid47739