Anonymous
04/28/2020 15:56
Subject: Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:I get why they don’t, but since we’ve lived in four states since my son was born, I (selfishly) think he should qualify for in state for all four states.
- military family
It is my understanding that service member can choose to keep their residency from past posts. Is that correct?
Anonymous
04/28/2020 15:42
Subject: Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I get why they don’t, but since we’ve lived in four states since my son was born, I (selfishly) think he should qualify for in state for all four states.
- military family
Puhleez. You save enough not having to pay what the rest of us do for healthcare to pay out of state tuition. Not to mention keeping your vehicles registered in the cheapest states and all the other discounts you get.
NP
Are you seriously resenting military benefits and discounts? Puhleez.
I am not from a military family, but I greatly appreciate their service. Not only do they put their lives on the line for their healthcare, according to recurring reports about the VA that I've heard for years, you might not want their healthcare.
Families are separated for years, not knowing their loved one will survive to come home - and if they do they may be forever changed physically and/or psychologically.
When families are together, it means pulling up roots and going to a new location. The community may or may not be welcoming. If it's a foreign posting that allows dependents, you may not even speak the language.
The military's job is so dangerous, traumatic, restrictive, and generally unpleasant that most of us would never voluntarily choose it. Those who do deserve much better treatment than they get. If states agreed to give military in-state tuition to any state that they've been posted in (or any state at all for that matter), I think it would be a good starting place, but would not even come close to fulfilling the debt we owe our military personnel and their families.
Whatever. They volunteered for that job. LOTS of people do jobs that involve a lot of sacrifices and putting their lives in the line and get paid a lot less and receive fewer benefits. Like firefighters, police, medics professionals on the front lines of treating infectious diseases etc. I support paying military well and providing good healthcare benefits etc but this constant “thank you for your service” stuff is tiresome. And I’m a military brat.
Most service members do it for the pay and perks/benefits, not for patriotic reasons. Most, also, are not in harm's way.
The lowest level ones, who have the fewest alternatives in life, of course bear the brunt of the risks and earn the least. Way of the world.
Anonymous
04/28/2020 15:39
Subject: Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Disagree. It is a resource funded by state residents.
Those who have not paid in can attend at a premium price. Seems fair to me.
Those who have not paid in can attend at a premium price. Seems fair to me.
Anonymous
04/28/2020 15:36
Subject: Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I get why they don’t, but since we’ve lived in four states since my son was born, I (selfishly) think he should qualify for in state for all four states.
- military family
Puhleez. You save enough not having to pay what the rest of us do for healthcare to pay out of state tuition. Not to mention keeping your vehicles registered in the cheapest states and all the other discounts you get.
NP
Are you seriously resenting military benefits and discounts? Puhleez.
I am not from a military family, but I greatly appreciate their service. Not only do they put their lives on the line for their healthcare, according to recurring reports about the VA that I've heard for years, you might not want their healthcare.
Families are separated for years, not knowing their loved one will survive to come home - and if they do they may be forever changed physically and/or psychologically.
When families are together, it means pulling up roots and going to a new location. The community may or may not be welcoming. If it's a foreign posting that allows dependents, you may not even speak the language.
The military's job is so dangerous, traumatic, restrictive, and generally unpleasant that most of us would never voluntarily choose it. Those who do deserve much better treatment than they get. If states agreed to give military in-state tuition to any state that they've been posted in (or any state at all for that matter), I think it would be a good starting place, but would not even come close to fulfilling the debt we owe our military personnel and their families.
Electrical line workers and lumberjacks have far more dangerous jobs.
Anonymous
04/28/2020 15:27
Subject: Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Agree.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 21:50
Subject: Re:Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is true, it is done in Canada, there are only two tiers of fees - domestic and foreign. In fact all Canadian citizens are eligible for domestic tuition even if they have never set foot in the country. That might be slightly unfair but it's not a bad system.
+1 Good idea
Canada has lots of good ideas. They can do that because they don't have federalism, and generally follow a European socialist (gasp!) democratic system.
If we go "full Canada" I'll happily support eliminating in state tuition.
They have a pretty good deal. For slightly higher taxes, they have universal healthcare and cheap college (plus excellent universities). Tuition plus dorm for 4 years in Canada is about the cost of 1 year at a private here, so they don't have to go crazy with saving. Add in generous work benefits like ample vacation and maternity/paternity leave exceeding one year paid, you've got a pretty nice life.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 20:36
Subject: Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I get why they don’t, but since we’ve lived in four states since my son was born, I (selfishly) think he should qualify for in state for all four states.
- military family
Puhleez. You save enough not having to pay what the rest of us do for healthcare to pay out of state tuition. Not to mention keeping your vehicles registered in the cheapest states and all the other discounts you get.
NP
Are you seriously resenting military benefits and discounts? Puhleez.
I am not from a military family, but I greatly appreciate their service. Not only do they put their lives on the line for their healthcare, according to recurring reports about the VA that I've heard for years, you might not want their healthcare.
Families are separated for years, not knowing their loved one will survive to come home - and if they do they may be forever changed physically and/or psychologically.
When families are together, it means pulling up roots and going to a new location. The community may or may not be welcoming. If it's a foreign posting that allows dependents, you may not even speak the language.
The military's job is so dangerous, traumatic, restrictive, and generally unpleasant that most of us would never voluntarily choose it. Those who do deserve much better treatment than they get. If states agreed to give military in-state tuition to any state that they've been posted in (or any state at all for that matter), I think it would be a good starting place, but would not even come close to fulfilling the debt we owe our military personnel and their families.
Whatever. They volunteered for that job. LOTS of people do jobs that involve a lot of sacrifices and putting their lives in the line and get paid a lot less and receive fewer benefits. Like firefighters, police, medics professionals on the front lines of treating infectious diseases etc. I support paying military well and providing good healthcare benefits etc but this constant “thank you for your service” stuff is tiresome. And I’m a military brat.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 18:39
Subject: Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I get why they don’t, but since we’ve lived in four states since my son was born, I (selfishly) think he should qualify for in state for all four states.
- military family
Puhleez. You save enough not having to pay what the rest of us do for healthcare to pay out of state tuition. Not to mention keeping your vehicles registered in the cheapest states and all the other discounts you get.
NP
Are you seriously resenting military benefits and discounts? Puhleez.
I am not from a military family, but I greatly appreciate their service. Not only do they put their lives on the line for their healthcare, according to recurring reports about the VA that I've heard for years, you might not want their healthcare.
Families are separated for years, not knowing their loved one will survive to come home - and if they do they may be forever changed physically and/or psychologically.
When families are together, it means pulling up roots and going to a new location. The community may or may not be welcoming. If it's a foreign posting that allows dependents, you may not even speak the language.
The military's job is so dangerous, traumatic, restrictive, and generally unpleasant that most of us would never voluntarily choose it. Those who do deserve much better treatment than they get. If states agreed to give military in-state tuition to any state that they've been posted in (or any state at all for that matter), I think it would be a good starting place, but would not even come close to fulfilling the debt we owe our military personnel and their families.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 17:51
Subject: Re:Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is true, it is done in Canada, there are only two tiers of fees - domestic and foreign. In fact all Canadian citizens are eligible for domestic tuition even if they have never set foot in the country. That might be slightly unfair but it's not a bad system.
+1 Good idea
Canada has lots of good ideas. They can do that because they don't have federalism, and generally follow a European socialist (gasp!) democratic system.
If we go "full Canada" I'll happily support eliminating in state tuition.
Canada follows a federalism.
OP said eliminate OS tuition not free college.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 17:30
Subject: Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Sure, when the federal government starts funding all the state universities. But right now the federal government doesn’t believe in education. Education leads to a knowledgeable citizenry, or worse experts. No need for those.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 17:28
Subject: Re:Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is true, it is done in Canada, there are only two tiers of fees - domestic and foreign. In fact all Canadian citizens are eligible for domestic tuition even if they have never set foot in the country. That might be slightly unfair but it's not a bad system.
+1 Good idea
Canada has lots of good ideas. They can do that because they don't have federalism, and generally follow a European socialist (gasp!) democratic system.
If we go "full Canada" I'll happily support eliminating in state tuition.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 15:58
Subject: Re:Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Disagree. State universities are funded by state taxpauyres, and the in-state tuition discount reflects that state taxpayers subsidize it.
VA kid go out of state to California.
California kid goes to VA.
It will balance out.
and VA kid goes to Univ. of Montana? Not gonna happen.
Most kids from VA might go to Universities in PA,NY,Mich,Mass,SC,NC,GA,TX and FL.
Few might even go to Montana and experience something new.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 15:39
Subject: Re:Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:This is true, it is done in Canada, there are only two tiers of fees - domestic and foreign. In fact all Canadian citizens are eligible for domestic tuition even if they have never set foot in the country. That might be slightly unfair but it's not a bad system.
+1 Good idea
Anonymous
03/09/2020 15:14
Subject: Re:Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Disagree. State universities are funded by state taxpauyres, and the in-state tuition discount reflects that state taxpayers subsidize it.
VA kid go out of state to California.
California kid goes to VA.
It will balance out.
and VA kid goes to Univ. of Montana? Not gonna happen.
Yeah that’s what I always think when someone has genius ideas to “fix”things WRT college admissions. 1) Who is going to get in now/pay less that doesn’t now? And 2) who is going to not get in/pay more than does now?
It’s a zero sum game.
Anonymous
03/09/2020 14:40
Subject: Re:Colleges should eliminate out of state tuition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Disagree. State universities are funded by state taxpauyres, and the in-state tuition discount reflects that state taxpayers subsidize it.
VA kid go out of state to California.
California kid goes to VA.
It will balance out.
and VA kid goes to Univ. of Montana? Not gonna happen.