Anonymous
Post 03/04/2020 07:32     Subject: **IAAT Results- post here (2020)
And now, as I knew but went ahead anyways, my DD will be taking Pre Calc with Trig Honors as a 10th grader because she took Algebra as a 7th grader. Unless you are going to TJ there's no need for that. But, it's the next class...so she'll take it.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2020 07:24     Subject: Re:**IAAT Results- post here (2020)
Anonymous wrote:
Eh- not necessarily. There is a huge difference in teachers. My niece also got a 99% and 600 on the Sol. Her teacher was very strict. She felt it was a high school class and appropriately treated it that way. My kid took it at the same time but at a different school. One teacher gave weekly quizzes, grades homework, had lots of questions on tests, frequent tests, gave partial credit, had extra credit chances, etc. One did not. One gave tests where the hugest grades were in the low 80s. One did not. If my kid took a test and had 30 questions in it and missed 2, she still did ok but if my niece missed 2 questions and there were 10 on the test, she didn’t do well. There were many kids who did very well on the Amc testing and in MathCounts and still struggled with this algebra teacher. The one good thing is that she’s gone from Fcps now!


That's kind of the point. Can you imagine how difficult or impossible this Algebra class would have been for a child who isn't great at math and didn't make the 91% benchmark? For kids like your niece and PP's kid with the 99% scores, Algebra can range from easy to challenging, based on the teacher. For a kid with scores below 91%, the same classes would range from challenging to impossible.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2020 07:21     Subject: **IAAT Results- post here (2020)
It doesn't matter. Appeals on IAAT are for the kids everyone, including the teachers, assumed would get in, but just barely missed with a 90% Or they're for the kids diagnosed with the flu the next day. I would hope that you would have to make a strong case that the IAAT result was an "off day" for your kid.

They're not for people pleasantly surprised that their DD was vaguely close to the cutoff. They're not for kids who are unqualified for Algebra, but disappointed with their M7H placement next year.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2020 06:50     Subject: **IAAT Results- post here (2020)
Anonymous wrote:FYI- Algebra IS a high school class. They receive high school credit and it goes on their transcript.


Agreed but ask around. You’ll find that the way the class is taught, expectations, depth, testing, grading, etc. varies widely among teachers.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2020 06:03     Subject: **IAAT Results- post here (2020)
FYI- Algebra IS a high school class. They receive high school credit and it goes on their transcript.
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2020 03:09     Subject: Re:**IAAT Results- post here (2020)
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Anonymous wrote:My kid got 86%tile. Is there any way to retest? She is pretty disappointed.

I don't think she is that good at math personally, but she didn't prep at all and still came close.


Is she interested in Algebra in 7th? I don't think all schools allow this but some allow you to appeal 7th math placement.


This. No retests allowed but if she does well on the Sol, you can ask the middle school to put here in Algebra 1 honors.


PP, don't do the bolded bit. Honestly, the 91% cutoff is still way too low for Algebra, and it should be more like 96%. Your DD may be disappointed, but she would be better served in M7H next year.


I did this. My kid got an A but admittedly worked hard. The whole class worked hard. Very difficult teacher and high expectations.


My child got a 99% on the IOWA and a 600 on the SOL. DC didn't work hard in Algebra. It was pretty easy. I think there's a good reason for the cutoffs and it's best to follow them. My younger child just got an 84% on the IOWA and we're happy to have that child take Math 7 honors next year.


Eh- not necessarily. There is a huge difference in teachers. My niece also got a 99% and 600 on the Sol. Her teacher was very strict. She felt it was a high school class and appropriately treated it that way. My kid took it at the same time but at a different school. One teacher gave weekly quizzes, grades homework, had lots of questions on tests, frequent tests, gave partial credit, had extra credit chances, etc. One did not. One gave tests where the hugest grades were in the low 80s. One did not. If my kid took a test and had 30 questions in it and missed 2, she still did ok but if my niece missed 2 questions and there were 10 on the test, she didn’t do well. There were many kids who did very well on the Amc testing and in MathCounts and still struggled with this algebra teacher. The one good thing is that she’s gone from Fcps now!
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2020 22:52     Subject: Re:**IAAT Results- post here (2020)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid got 86%tile. Is there any way to retest? She is pretty disappointed.

I don't think she is that good at math personally, but she didn't prep at all and still came close.


Is she interested in Algebra in 7th? I don't think all schools allow this but some allow you to appeal 7th math placement.


This. No retests allowed but if she does well on the Sol, you can ask the middle school to put here in Algebra 1 honors.


PP, don't do the bolded bit. Honestly, the 91% cutoff is still way too low for Algebra, and it should be more like 96%. Your DD may be disappointed, but she would be better served in M7H next year.


I did this. My kid got an A but admittedly worked hard. The whole class worked hard. Very difficult teacher and high expectations.


My child got a 99% on the IOWA and a 600 on the SOL. DC didn't work hard in Algebra. It was pretty easy. I think there's a good reason for the cutoffs and it's best to follow them. My younger child just got an 84% on the IOWA and we're happy to have that child take Math 7 honors next year.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2020 19:38     Subject: Re:**IAAT Results- post here (2020)
Anonymous wrote:I'm the parent of the kid who got the 86. She is in AAP, so don't they by default get placed in 7th grade honors math? I'm not even sure of what math they take (or are eligible to take) with a 92 or above, but that is the class she wanted. Can I appeal or is the Iowa cutoff firm?


Wait a minute! In an earlier post, you said you didn't think your DD was very strong at math. Then, she took IAAT, performed like a kid who isn't super strong at math and failed to meet the benchmark. You don't even know what math class the IAAT is a qualifier for, yet you still are talking about appealing your DD in? And all of this because she's disappointed? That has to be the worst reason I've heard for trying to cram your child into a class for which she is not qualified. Teach your DD to deal with disappointment, and then put her in the proper math class, which for her is Math 7 Honors. There is nothing wrong with taking Math 7 Honors. Your DD actually got 1/3 of the problems wrong on the IAAT, and thus has not sufficiently mastered pre-algebra.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2020 16:03     Subject: **IAAT Results- post here (2020)
98% Advanced Math (gen ed)
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2020 14:39     Subject: **IAAT Results- post here (2020)
8: Algebra I
9: Geometry
10: Algebra II
11: Pre Calc
12: Calc
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2020 14:38     Subject: Re:**IAAT Results- post here (2020)
Anonymous wrote:
Thanks. So if you take Algebra I Honors in 8th grade, when do you take Calculus in high school?

12th grade
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2020 14:22     Subject: Re:**IAAT Results- post here (2020)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm the parent of the kid who got the 86. She is in AAP, so don't they by default get placed in 7th grade honors math? I'm not even sure of what math they take (or are eligible to take) with a 92 or above, but that is the class she wanted. Can I appeal or is the Iowa cutoff firm?


The IAAT benchmark is to take Algebra I Honors next year. AAP kids who do not meet the benchmark take Math 7 Honors in 7th grade (which covers 8th grade math and ends with the 8th grade math SOL). Then, they either take Algebra I Honors or regular Algebra I in 8th grade.

Thanks. So if you take Algebra I Honors in 8th grade, when do you take Calculus in high school?
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2020 13:52     Subject: Re:**IAAT Results- post here (2020)
Anonymous wrote:I'm the parent of the kid who got the 86. She is in AAP, so don't they by default get placed in 7th grade honors math? I'm not even sure of what math they take (or are eligible to take) with a 92 or above, but that is the class she wanted. Can I appeal or is the Iowa cutoff firm?


The IAAT benchmark is to take Algebra I Honors next year. AAP kids who do not meet the benchmark take Math 7 Honors in 7th grade (which covers 8th grade math and ends with the 8th grade math SOL). Then, they either take Algebra I Honors or regular Algebra I in 8th grade.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2020 13:49     Subject: Re:**IAAT Results- post here (2020)
I'm the parent of the kid who got the 86. She is in AAP, so don't they by default get placed in 7th grade honors math? I'm not even sure of what math they take (or are eligible to take) with a 92 or above, but that is the class she wanted. Can I appeal or is the Iowa cutoff firm?
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2020 13:48     Subject: **IAAT Results- post here (2020)
In FCPS, too many people view 7th grade Algebra as some sort of prize to be won or some sort of validation of a kid's giftedness, rather than as simply a math class for the kids who are ready for Algebra in 7th grade. That's really all it is. Some kids would benefit most by taking another year of pre-algebra. Other kids would not benefit much or at all from doing so.