Anonymous wrote:OP, did your husband give you the black eye and you’re testing your story about how it happened? None of this is holding water.

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Anonymous wrote:Why was the child allowed to play with something around your neck that was giving you a choking sensation? “Please don’t play with that. You can strangle someone playing with something around their neck and that’s dangerous.” Also have you not talked before about calling 911 if you are unconscious? I feel like I started in on that with my kids by age 5. Why did 8 year old not protect you from the 5 year old?

I told him to let go of the scarf. He wasn’t listening. And yes, I talked to both of my kids about calling 911 and I taught them how. But apparently it didn’t even occur to them in that moment.

Here’s what doesn’t make sense to me. If you passed out from the infinity scarf simply being tugged (???!!!) then you would have slumped one way or another and you would have also woken up pretty soon afterwards. Seconds.

The only way you could actually be unconscious for several minutes due to choking/strangulation would be if you were being continually violently choked, which 1) doesn’t seem possible by a 5 yo, even a freakishly strong one, and especially not unintentionally and 2) WOULD HAVE LED TO BRAIN DAMAGE. 4-6 minutes is when brain damage sets in.

And it had to have been for a few minutes if your 8 yo spent time playing games on your phone.

I can only conclude that either...

1) You are wrong about the amount of time it took for your 5 yo to start violently punching you and your 8 yo to whip out your phone

Or, more likely—

2) You were passed out for some reason other than strangulation, such as alcohol, drugs (illegal or legal), medical condition, they actually found you on the floor after you’d been beaten... something, anything other than “my son pulled on my infinity scarf”.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you seem oddly dissociated from this whole incident? Do you have a history of being abused? I’m not being flippant, it would fit the pattern.

This. Or something like it.

What does that mean exactly? And yes I was abused as a child, but curious as to what you mean by dissociated.

You are oddly detached from what happened, almost as if you’re reported something you observed from a distance rather than something that happened to you. Dissociation is very common in abuse victims (especially victims of sexual abuse), it’s a protective response to deny the reality of what’s happening To them during episodes of abuse. If you did that when you were abused as a child, it would explain why you did/are doing it now in response to actions by both of your children that may feel reminiscent on some level of the abuse you experienced as a child.

Why was the child allowed to play with something around your neck that was giving you a choking sensation? “Please don’t play with that. You can strangle someone playing with something around their neck and that’s dangerous.” Also have you not talked before about calling 911 if you are unconscious? I feel like I started in on that with my kids by age 5. Why did 8 year old not protect you from the 5 year old?

When you yawn, do they yawn?

If not, seek help ASAP!

OP, did your husband give you the black eye and you’re testing your story about how it happened? None of this is holding water.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you seem oddly dissociated from this whole incident? Do you have a history of being abused? I’m not being flippant, it would fit the pattern.

This. Or something like it.

What does that mean exactly? And yes I was abused as a child, but curious as to what you mean by dissociated.

I have 2 boys who play fight. I just can’t imagine them not going into full panic mode if they caused someone to be unconscious and instead give mom. A black eye laugh about it.

Anonymous wrote:Is your 8yo on the spectrum, OP? Based on the way you describe her, she might benefit from some social skills classes?

No clue what to do about your 5yo. It doesn’t seem like normal behavior to me, but then again what do I know? Punching hard enough to give a black eye requires a lot of effort for a 5yo...

No, she has anxiety. But she is also getting help with social skills.

My 5yo is freakishly strong and he is really a human wrecking ball as he breaks everything.

Anonymous wrote:OP, you seem oddly dissociated from this whole incident? Do you have a history of being abused? I’m not being flippant, it would fit the pattern.

This. Or something like it.

OP, you seem oddly dissociated from this whole incident? Do you have a history of being abused? I’m not being flippant, it would fit the pattern.

If this is not fiction, all 3 of you need a psych eval and therapy.

1) I’m not sure I believe this “freak accident” thing. Pretending, drunk, being beaten, having some sort of medical episode you don’t understand and assuming it was the scarf... maybe. But a lot about this story seems off.

2) The 5 yo becoming increasingly violent out of panic— and laughing about it afterwards (because young kids do laugh when they’re upset and out of control— I could buy that.

3) The 8 yo, IDK? Undiagnosed ADHD? Or...? But this is way out of the range of normal.

Overall this isn’t adding up for me. There’s some missing detail here— or many missing details.

When I was 15 and my brother was 5, and I was babysitting him alone, he did a backwards somersault and clonked me on the head where I was sitting. I woke up to him crying and dragging me across the floor to “get help.” (We taught him to call 911 after that!) And I was out probably 30 seconds. Like I said, in a weird way, your 5 yo’s reaction, if it was indicative of panic, almost makes the most sense here. But the 8 yo? The rest?

Anonymous wrote:Is your 8yo on the spectrum, OP? Based on the way you describe her, she might benefit from some social skills classes?

No clue what to do about your 5yo. It doesn’t seem like normal behavior to me, but then again what do I know? Punching hard enough to give a black eye requires a lot of effort for a 5yo...

She got a black eye???? I missed that detail. Wow. Just wow.