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Anonymous wrote:OP here, I need a third row for carpooling only (2 kids.) I am coming from an old minivan.

if kids are still young, why not just get another minivan? no SUV will beat the space/driveability of a minivan

I just don’t want to. My youngest is 10.

suck it up, OP.

I would not be cought in a minivan even if you pay me. Stick to your guns OP.
They are hard to park, and goofy. If you don't need one why by such a long car?

Same! I drove my neighbor's minivan out of dire need for a week and if I wasn't already sure that I would never want one, I am now. It was like driving a shoe box. NEVER!!!!

OMG you guys are soooooo cool! You’re totally like the “cool mom”

Tahoe!

With the redesigned 2021 model coming out in a few months, dealers are eager to sell off their 2020’s

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Anonymous wrote:Suburban.

This is in no way "mid sized". It's HUGE. Much bigger than a mini van. I know this because one was parked next to my Odyssey yesterday and I was amazed at how big it was.

True, but op is talking about a Pilot and Highlander, in my book that is not midsize suv. And unhappy with all the options, so she might as well go for the Suburban that can cover all that she wants.

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Anonymous wrote:I had the same decision to make earlier this year. 9 Year Old minivan. Youngest is 9. Needed 3 rows.

I had some very specific requirements - new car could not be wider than current minivan [note - new minivans are about 4 inches wider] This was an issue for where I park.

Wound up with the Hyundai Palisade. I LOVE IT!!!!

We considered the Subaru Ascent as well. I took my kids with me to test drive. They thought getting in and out of the Hyundai was easier. This matters - because they are the ones who will need to do it.

The biggest challenge I have with the SUV vs minivan is grocery shopping / trunk space. I will figure it out.

OP here. Yes! The new minivans are wider! The new Odyssey will not fit in my garage even though my current one fits fine. We went to Hyundai to look at Palisade but they had none on the lot in the higher trim levels and said people are buying them before they even arrive! I’m not buying a car I haven’t even seen in person or driven.

Look at other dealers.. they are really popular but they have some.

Anonymous wrote:I had the same decision to make earlier this year. 9 Year Old minivan. Youngest is 9. Needed 3 rows.

I had some very specific requirements - new car could not be wider than current minivan [note - new minivans are about 4 inches wider] This was an issue for where I park.

Wound up with the Hyundai Palisade. I LOVE IT!!!!

We considered the Subaru Ascent as well. I took my kids with me to test drive. They thought getting in and out of the Hyundai was easier. This matters - because they are the ones who will need to do it.

The biggest challenge I have with the SUV vs minivan is grocery shopping / trunk space. I will figure it out.

OP here. Yes! The new minivans are wider! The new Odyssey will not fit in my garage even though my current one fits fine. We went to Hyundai to look at Palisade but they had none on the lot in the higher trim levels and said people are buying them before they even arrive! I’m not buying a car I haven’t even seen in person or driven.

How does the 2nd/3rd row legroom in the palisade compare to your old minivan? I’m tired of mine but have tall kids

I had the same decision to make earlier this year. 9 Year Old minivan. Youngest is 9. Needed 3 rows.

I had some very specific requirements - new car could not be wider than current minivan [note - new minivans are about 4 inches wider] This was an issue for where I park.

Wound up with the Hyundai Palisade. I LOVE IT!!!!

We considered the Subaru Ascent as well. I took my kids with me to test drive. They thought getting in and out of the Hyundai was easier. This matters - because they are the ones who will need to do it.

The biggest challenge I have with the SUV vs minivan is grocery shopping / trunk space. I will figure it out.

Anonymous wrote:I went with the Highlander with second row captains chairs, so the kids going into the third row could climb through. And as a Toyota, it’s kept its resale value and hasn’t caused me a whisper of trouble.

This is what we did too. The 2020 is a new model which makes the 2019s a good deal.

Anonymous wrote:Suburban.

This is in no way "mid sized". It's HUGE. Much bigger than a mini van. I know this because one was parked next to my Odyssey yesterday and I was amazed at how big it was.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, I need a third row for carpooling only (2 kids.) I am coming from an old minivan.

if kids are still young, why not just get another minivan? no SUV will beat the space/driveability of a minivan

I just don’t want to. My youngest is 10.

suck it up, OP.

I would not be cought in a minivan even if you pay me. Stick to your guns OP.
They are hard to park, and goofy. If you don't need one why by such a long car?

Same! I drove my neighbor's minivan out of dire need for a week and if I wasn't already sure that I would never want one, I am now. It was like driving a shoe box. NEVER!!!!

I hear you but my both VWs were assembled in Mexico / US and that had no bearing.
You know that many German cars are assembled in US.. BMW, Mercedes..
BMW X models are entirely assembled in SC and they are stellar,
Mercedes assembles their cars in many countries. Mercedes-Benz is still headquartered
in Stuttgart, Germany, where the main production facilities are located.
However, there are numerous plants in approximately 22 countries, including the U.S., Austria, Canada, Brazil and Mexico.

When you are buying a car, you are "marrying a brand"...
so whatever you feel abut the brand, how the cars perform after
you buy, how the service works etc, how they hold resell value,
that is what is also important.

Where they are built is of a little significance because the brands
can not afford a car like Mercedes can not be inferior when built in Mexico
to one in Canada because the brand would suffer.
They have THE same standards, they run their factories in the
same fashion and yhou would never know where you are countr=wise
if you were in one of their factories.

I still put my bed on WV Atlas because it is huge car and best value
for what you are getting, aside form upper luxury tier.

Volkswagen hold really awesome resell value, their service
is great and warranties are good, especially if you wanted
a 2019 Tiguan that had 7 years warranty. If you still can find one.

However Atlas is a beast and it looks monumental.
They have them with captains seats and when you sit in one
you feel like wow..

I almost got one but the only thing with Atlas is that for that
price range no matter which brand, for that size the engine
is not super ultimate powerful so the driving is according.

You would need to move to higher price brackets to
have a car that carries that load and can't feel it.

Again, I would much rather get this instead of Minivan
because it looks cool. It is headturner on the road.
It is massive inside and outside and is loaded with features.

I don't like their seats options though cover wise..
until leather.. their fabric is ugly and their fake leather
smells bad so leather is the only option I would settle for
but that kicks you up to highest trim with lots of cool features
that you might not need but have to pay for.

Do check resell values of any car you are looking for.
Do check all the reviews and problems people have.

I just looked up youtube and they changed something! wow..
looks like they have two different body styles now for 2020..

They upped the warranty to 6 or 7 years on Atlas in 2020 wow..

and this is some changes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37QReyF2CSc


Good luck.

Suburban.

Anonymous wrote:I was in the same boat a couple of months ago.

Ascent is a lot smaller than Pilot. So is MDX.

MDX was more expensive for the same features as Pilot. QX-60 was also a lot more expensive for the same features.

Finally, it was between Highlander and Pilot.

I bought Pilot because it had iPhone and Android carplay and I can plug my phone in.

Also, Pilot is huge and we use my car to travel.

I've had it for a couple month now and it's a very comfortable car.

FYI CarPlay is available in every brand now.

I was in the same boat a couple of months ago.

Ascent is a lot smaller than Pilot. So is MDX.

MDX was more expensive for the same features as Pilot. QX-60 was also a lot more expensive for the same features.

Finally, it was between Highlander and Pilot.

I bought Pilot because it had iPhone and Android carplay and I can plug my phone in.

Also, Pilot is huge and we use my car to travel.

I've had it for a couple month now and it's a very comfortable car.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, OP, just buy a freaking minivan already.

This is insane. Many people just don't like minivans. I for one. NEVER!!!

If I had to compromise, I would get probably Volkswagen Atlas with leather seats
as for this price it is huge but still looks cool and feels like respectable car.

HUGE interior.

DP, I considered that. Then I realized it’s a VW. It’ll be in the shop more than I’d be able to drive it.

My college car was VW Golf and first family car was Passat, never once a problem in years.
Go visit their faiclities, they are European cars, European standards and they
have to keep up now especially after the farud with the fuel.

I would take VW over Asian car in a heartbeat.

Most VWs are assembled in the USA or Mexico, though. That’s where the problems begin. I think Audi are the only ones actually made in Bavaria, Germany.