It always amazes me that people who purport to be against slavery are doing nothing about it. Today, on this very planet, there are an estimated 30 million people held in slavery. And you worry about a "plantation".

You go girl.

Atlantic626 wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m AA. And no, it doesn’t make me uncomfortable.

Not all plantations had slaves, you know.

I’m AA and it makes me uncomfortable but also grateful that a poster (who I assume is white is conscious enough and seems to be empathic towards other people experiences).

I wonder how you would know whether a plantation had slaves? Even if they all didn’t, I always side eye couples who choose to marry on them and I would not go to one unless I was touring a converted historical site meant to honor the lives that were ruined.

Thanks OP

Do a basic history search. Not all plantation owners believed in slavery.

I’m also black (I don’t believe in the AA term) and unless it’s a southern plantation that admit it has slaves, it doesn’t bother me either like the PP you quoted.

History is history. We can’t change it. Otherwise, we might as well rename Washington DC and condemn the memorials for Washington and Jefferson, since they were proud slaveowners and even admitted that blacks were not even a full person.

Anonymous wrote:As for me, “plantation” is an archaic term that I connect with slavery (whether or not all plantations had slaves is irrelevant). As such, I would not purchase property in a subdivision that included the word.

At the same time, the word doesn’t make me feel “uncomfortable.”

So your ignorance is holding you back. There are remedies for that.

Plantations were commercial enterprises for selling crops. Like our big commercial farms today, just on a smaller scale. They by definition had slaves. Where in the south were they paying tons of people to labor for them?

Anonymous wrote:I’m AA. And no, it doesn’t make me uncomfortable.

Not all plantations had slaves, you know.

I’m AA and it makes me uncomfortable but also grateful that a poster (who I assume is white is conscious enough and seems to be empathic towards other people experiences).

I wonder how you would know whether a plantation had slaves? Even if they all didn’t, I always side eye couples who choose to marry on them and I would not go to one unless I was touring a converted historical site meant to honor the lives that were ruined.

Thanks OP

It would only bother me if they still had slaves working there. Kinda like the places where you get your nails done, and the places that produce the salads you eat, and the clothes you wear.

It's really easy to be outraged and shun things that you'll only need to shun in theory. The reality is that there are still slaves today, they just don't live in your attic. And most likely, you support the modern slave trade through your buying habits. It's almost unavoidable not to. It might be more fun to judge southerners, who have no more of a connection to slavery than you do, but maybe instead it makes more sense to consider how slavery happens to begin with and support systemic, policy changes that reduce it.

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t stay at/buy a property with “plantation” in the name any more than one with “concentration camp” in the name. It just makes me uncomfortable.

Same. I pass a new housing development going to Bethany Beach with that in its name. What century are they living in?

Also, AA poster above, all American plantations had slaves, by definition.

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Anonymous wrote:Slave labor was used to build the White House. Guess we should just tear it down.

Truly am tired of people looking for reasons to be offended in life.

+1. People need to lighten up. It's now trendy to be offended by every little thing

Agree. I would not avoid places just because the word plantation is in a name. I don’t care if you judge me.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes and those banana-looking things with a similar name also offend me. I can't even write the name here I'm so triggered.

It's called a plantain.

There's a synonym for ointment that I never use either for the same reason. I am thinking about switching to Newspeak.

Anonymous wrote:Yes and those banana-looking things with a similar name also offend me. I can't even write the name here I'm so triggered.

It's called a plantain.

Anonymous wrote:Slave labor was used to build the White House. Guess we should just tear it down.

Truly am tired of people looking for reasons to be offended in life.

+1. People need to lighten up. It's now trendy to be offended by every little thing

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Anonymous wrote:The official name of Rhode Island is Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. Will you not visit Rhode Island?

The plantation in Rhode Island's state name is an archaic term dating back to when plantation in England meant a grove of trees cultivated specifically for commercial purposes and later came to refer to deliberately established agricultural commercial activities (at a time when the vast majority of people lived on subsistence farms where they consumed what they grew, not raising crops for commercial purposes). The association of slavery with plantations came later.

Having said that, yes, I agree with the OP that calling any housing subdivision today "plantation" is tactless. Whether we like it or not the word now has very strong connotations.

In the US, because Americans are nothing if not singularly self-absorbed. There are coffee, tea, and rubber plantations all around the world. Still.

I have no problems staying in a "Hotel Plantation" in Malaysia where the word means something else very different from the Southern examples, despite having common origins in agricultural activities. The point is that the term plantation is a loaded term in the United States. There is no reason or need to name a subdivision with plantation in its name given that association.

Because Malaysia doesn't have a history of slaveryon plantations? Oh, wait -- Malaysia doesn't have a history of slavery because it's still going on today: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/05/31/129000-trapped-in-slavery-in-malaysia-study-finds

So, you're ok with visiting a country that currently enslaves people, but you're not ok with staying in a modern hotel that has a name that may or not be associated with slavery that happened in the past. Got it.

This is on-topic and covers the history of the word.

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2015/11/plantation.html

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Anonymous wrote:Do plantation shutters also make you uncomfortable?

Not OP but the term does, yes. I call them “interior shutters.”

But do you have plantation shutters in your master bedroom?

Yes and those banana-looking things with a similar name also offend me. I can't even write the name here I'm so triggered.