Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 19:15     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:i think it was because his coach Urban Meyer did not want him back on the team and suggested he try to get drafted by the NFL.


I mean probably, but why?

my husband claimed that Meyer warned the Pats NOT to draft him. says he read it somewhere.

It feels like they all knew they had a ticking time bomb on their hands.


I think so, too. AH was the Patriots 4th round draft pick. If you read the brother's book, it says that he and AH were waiting two (?) days and did not understand why AH was not yet drafted. I believe he was drafted on the third or fourth day. They seemed oblivious that AH's behaviors could actually be a problem - this probably transpires when one grows up in a volatile and hostile home - that was their "normal".

Scouting reports listed AH's "maturity" (or a similar trait measure) as "low", and the Patriots were understandably apprehensive, but took AH on his word when AH was called into Kraft's office (promising that he wouldn't be a "problem", essentially). The Patriots withheld singing bonuses contingent on AH's good behavior. He was actually let go under "behavior unbecoming", which is an NFL standard, not a Patriots standard.

But yes, he was a ticking time bomb, which is would many feared. His hostile behaviors started when he was young, and only became worse. Of course, extreme CTE did not help. In addition, his dad had a criminal background, which derailed his own football dream years earlier, so (IMO) AH wanted to "prove" that he could be both a thug and an NFL superstar - he wanted to make his dad proud on both counts.

So many facets to the story, and kind of compelling, given that he had such talent, and the world seemingly in his hands at such a young age. His mom was a piece of work.


Draft is only 2 days.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 19:05     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
Anonymous wrote:Urban Meyer obviously cleaned up messes for his players. Made stories go away.

It annoys me that Meyer is given such a pass. He knew, and he let it go.


Completely agree.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 18:43     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:i think it was because his coach Urban Meyer did not want him back on the team and suggested he try to get drafted by the NFL.


I mean probably, but why?

my husband claimed that Meyer warned the Pats NOT to draft him. says he read it somewhere.

It feels like they all knew they had a ticking time bomb on their hands.


I think so, too. AH was the Patriots 4th round draft pick. If you read the brother's book, it says that he and AH were waiting two (?) days and did not understand why AH was not yet drafted. I believe he was drafted on the third or fourth day. They seemed oblivious that AH's behaviors could actually be a problem - this probably transpires when one grows up in a volatile and hostile home - that was their "normal".

Scouting reports listed AH's "maturity" (or a similar trait measure) as "low", and the Patriots were understandably apprehensive, but took AH on his word when AH was called into Kraft's office (promising that he wouldn't be a "problem", essentially). The Patriots withheld singing bonuses contingent on AH's good behavior. He was actually let go under "behavior unbecoming", which is an NFL standard, not a Patriots standard.

But yes, he was a ticking time bomb, which is would many feared. His hostile behaviors started when he was young, and only became worse. Of course, extreme CTE did not help. In addition, his dad had a criminal background, which derailed his own football dream years earlier, so (IMO) AH wanted to "prove" that he could be both a thug and an NFL superstar - he wanted to make his dad proud on both counts.

So many facets to the story, and kind of compelling, given that he had such talent, and the world seemingly in his hands at such a young age. His mom was a piece of work.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 16:48     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
Anonymous wrote:DJ grew up in the same environment and also played football- why doesn’t he have the same or similar issues?



His career at UConn can not be compared to winning a Super Bowl. C'mon.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 16:48     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
Anonymous wrote:DJ grew up in the same environment and also played football- why doesn’t he have the same or similar issues?



No CTE
No sexual abuse
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 16:46     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
DJ grew up in the same environment and also played football- why doesn’t he have the same or similar issues?

Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 16:10     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
Something that was very surprising is the fact that he killed himself knowing about the state’s law, that his case would be dismissed if he died while it was being appealed. Then in his mind, his wife and daughter could get some of his contract’s money from patriot? And then comes the mom of the murdered man and if I am not wrong, with her petition they changed that backward bs law.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 16:08     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:i think it was because his coach Urban Meyer did not want him back on the team and suggested he try to get drafted by the NFL.


I mean probably, but why?

my husband claimed that Meyer warned the Pats NOT to draft him. says he read it somewhere.

It feels like they all knew they had a ticking time bomb on their hands.


NP. It doesn't say the Pats in particular, but there was such a story about Urban Meyer telling that to an NFL scout: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/othercolleges/2018/09/20/urban-meyer-told-nfl-team-not-draft-aaron-hernandez-per-report/1367136002/

The Pats have taken chances on behavior problems before. Belichick has a no-nonsense system and some problem players respond well to that (i.e. Randy Moss). If it doesn't work, they get cut. He was a star player with them for 3 years. But I don't think the Pats or anyone else imagined that Hernandez would turn into a serial killer, though. Why should they? Plenty of young men get into trouble with the law, drugs, violent fights, etc. but almost never do they end up murderers.

And the CTE is something of a red herring. Not to say that it didn't affect him and isn't alarming, but Hernandez lived a violent life from a young age, either from abuse or his own actions. There's no way to differentiate the effects of that from the football. And there have been plenty of NFL players with CTE and none of them killed a bunch of people except him. Suicide, yes, murder, no. Too much focus on CTE wrongly absolves him of responsibility for heinous acts.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 15:35     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
Urban Meyer obviously cleaned up messes for his players. Made stories go away.

It annoys me that Meyer is given such a pass. He knew, and he let it go.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 10:46     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
I agree. He was benched one season allegedly from a failed drug test, he was a thug as a freshman involved in an assault of a bar employee and could have been involved in multiple shootings, though never was implicated nor charges were pressed. Though Meyer denies knowing any of this, I am sure he wanted him gone.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 10:45     Subject: Re:Aaron Hernandez Netflix
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was garbage. Too much focus and speculation on a dead guys sexual preference. Not enough focus on more important aspects of his life. They couldn't get better people to interview from his life?


This which I don't believe not one bit. Someone is always trying to push that agenda.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2020 08:14     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
Anonymous wrote:i think it was because his coach Urban Meyer did not want him back on the team and suggested he try to get drafted by the NFL.


I mean probably, but why?

my husband claimed that Meyer warned the Pats NOT to draft him. says he read it somewhere.

It feels like they all knew they had a ticking time bomb on their hands.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2020 23:21     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
Cruddy parents, bad upbringing + massive concussions = sociopath with brain disease. Not surprising.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2020 22:56     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
i think it was because his coach Urban Meyer did not want him back on the team and suggested he try to get drafted by the NFL.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2020 22:36     Subject: Aaron Hernandez Netflix
How come he was asked to leave college early?