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Anonymous wrote:Make no mistake. The North was/is just as racist as the South. Instead of slavery, the northern states found other ways to suppress blacks and minorities, including segregated housing laws, under-funding education and other social service agencies, and the "strategic" placement of Interstate highways and other expressways.

I grew up in MA. New England also had the ability to use centuries-old town boundaries to enforce segregated communities, creating some of the most lopsided inequality in the country. Check out Lawrence. Check out Mattapan. Check out Hartford.

This notion that the north is somehow morally superior to the south on matters of race is complete and utter BS. There remains much more to the story than slavery.

Celebrating the Confederacy is more than celebrating slavery and racism, it’s also celebrating treason.

Lee and Jackson were US traitors.

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Anonymous wrote:Make no mistake. The North was/is just as racist as the South. Instead of slavery, the northern states found other ways to suppress blacks and minorities, including segregated housing laws, under-funding education and other social service agencies, and the "strategic" placement of Interstate highways and other expressways.

I grew up in MA. New England also had the ability to use centuries-old town boundaries to enforce segregated communities, creating some of the most lopsided inequality in the country. Check out Lawrence. Check out Mattapan. Check out Hartford.

This notion that the north is somehow morally superior to the south on matters of race is complete and utter BS. There remains much more to the story than slavery.

Celebrating the Confederacy is more than celebrating slavery and racism, it’s also celebrating treason.

Lee and Jackson were US traitors.

Anonymous wrote:Make no mistake. The North was/is just as racist as the South. Instead of slavery, the northern states found other ways to suppress blacks and minorities, including segregated housing laws, under-funding education and other social service agencies, and the "strategic" placement of Interstate highways and other expressways.

I grew up in MA. New England also had the ability to use centuries-old town boundaries to enforce segregated communities, creating some of the most lopsided inequality in the country. Check out Lawrence. Check out Mattapan. Check out Hartford.

This notion that the north is somehow morally superior to the south on matters of race is complete and utter BS. There remains much more to the story than slavery.

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Virginia (born in 1980) and have never heard of this. So if it was something they did in Richmond, it certainly never made it's way inside the Beltway.

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I’m sorry, but the SPL Center has jumped the shark. That list includes multiple “radical catholic” organizations as “hate groups”. Gimme a break!

I guess if you're an antisemite you might feel that way...

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/radical-traditional-catholicism
"Adherents of radical traditional Catholicism, or “integrism,” routinely pillory Jews as “the perpetual enemy of Christ” and worse, reject the ecumenical efforts of the Vatican, and sometimes even assert that recent popes have all been illegitimate. These groups are incensed by the liberalizing reforms of the 1962-65 Second Vatican Council, which condemned hatred for the Jews and rejected the accusation that Jews are collectively responsible for deicide in the form of the crucifixion of Christ."

Sounds like they're hate groups to me.

Still waiting to hear from PP about which one of these groups is “wrongly” labeled as a hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2007/12-anti-semitic-radical-traditionalist-catholic-groups

Wait, you mean the guys who put Ben Carson on their "extremist watch list"? The same ones who lost a 3.4 million dollar lawsuit against a former Radical muslim, who now advocates against radical islam? The guys who put the Family Research Council on their hate map and it got shot up 2 years later? The same ones who defame a woman who suffered genital mutilation, and now speaks out against it? Sorry, thats in no way equivalent to the KKK.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html

The SLPC spends more money on fund raising that it does going after the KKK and the like. They really need to return to their roots instead of trying to drum up more money.

The SPLC called the American Legion a "Hate Group" because the Legion's Commander called for an end to illegal immigration. Not ALL immigration, mind you. But only ILLEGAL immigration.

The SPLC is the real hate group. They hate anyone who opposes the left's agenda.

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I’m sorry, but the SPL Center has jumped the shark. That list includes multiple “radical catholic” organizations as “hate groups”. Gimme a break!

I guess if you're an antisemite you might feel that way...

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/radical-traditional-catholicism
"Adherents of radical traditional Catholicism, or “integrism,” routinely pillory Jews as “the perpetual enemy of Christ” and worse, reject the ecumenical efforts of the Vatican, and sometimes even assert that recent popes have all been illegitimate. These groups are incensed by the liberalizing reforms of the 1962-65 Second Vatican Council, which condemned hatred for the Jews and rejected the accusation that Jews are collectively responsible for deicide in the form of the crucifixion of Christ."

Sounds like they're hate groups to me.

Still waiting to hear from PP about which one of these groups is “wrongly” labeled as a hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2007/12-anti-semitic-radical-traditionalist-catholic-groups

Wait, you mean the guys who put Ben Carson on their "extremist watch list"? The same ones who lost a 3.4 million dollar lawsuit against a former Radical muslim, who now advocates against radical islam? The guys who put the Family Research Council on their hate map and it got shot up 2 years later? The same ones who defame a woman who suffered genital mutilation, and now speaks out against it? Sorry, thats in no way equivalent to the KKK.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html

The SLPC spends more money on fund raising that it does going after the KKK and the like. They really need to return to their roots instead of trying to drum up more money.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe Virginia celebrates "Lee-Jackson" day as an official holiday. Yet another reason to not go near this state and certainly never live there. I always thought Virginian's saying the south will rise again was a joke or overstatement. Wow, was I wrong about that. So much better north of the Potomac.

You’re an idiot if you are unfamiliar with how non-southern northern Virginia is.

Really? Seems a lot of hate groups on NOVA based on this map below and one would guess they prefer things "the way they were."

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map?state=VA

Granted, now your governor is trying to abolish Lee Jackson day and join the 20th century. But your republican lawmakers are putting up a stink about that. They believe in celebrating your heritage. Try to separate yourselves from the rest of your state, but you can't. Virginia is the south and a large amount of your population celebrate the Confederacy. Especially this Friday! Go on an have a nice time. And for those of you in state jobs getting the day off, enjoy that free time because your Generals earned it for you.

Yee-haw!

I’m sorry, but the SPL Center has jumped the shark. That list includes multiple “radical catholic” organizations as “hate groups”. Gimme a break!

Sounds about right to me.

Nope, not right. Ridiculous.

I guess if you're an antisemite you might feel that way...

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/radical-traditional-catholicism
"Adherents of radical traditional Catholicism, or “integrism,” routinely pillory Jews as “the perpetual enemy of Christ” and worse, reject the ecumenical efforts of the Vatican, and sometimes even assert that recent popes have all been illegitimate. These groups are incensed by the liberalizing reforms of the 1962-65 Second Vatican Council, which condemned hatred for the Jews and rejected the accusation that Jews are collectively responsible for deicide in the form of the crucifixion of Christ."

Sounds like they're hate groups to me.

Still waiting to hear from PP about which one of these groups is “wrongly” labeled as a hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2007/12-anti-semitic-radical-traditionalist-catholic-groups

Wait, you mean the guys who put Ben Carson on their "extremist watch list"? The same ones who lost a 3.4 million dollar lawsuit against a former Radical muslim, who now advocates against radical islam? The guys who put the Family Research Council on their hate map and it got shot up 2 years later? The same ones who defame a woman who suffered genital mutilation, and now speaks out against it? Sorry, thats in no way equivalent to the KKK.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html

The SLPC spends more money on fund raising that it does going after the KKK and the like. They really need to return to their roots instead of trying to drum up more money.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe Virginia celebrates "Lee-Jackson" day as an official holiday. Yet another reason to not go near this state and certainly never live there. I always thought Virginian's saying the south will rise again was a joke or overstatement. Wow, was I wrong about that. So much better north of the Potomac.

You’re an idiot if you are unfamiliar with how non-southern northern Virginia is.

Really? Seems a lot of hate groups on NOVA based on this map below and one would guess they prefer things "the way they were."

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map?state=VA

Granted, now your governor is trying to abolish Lee Jackson day and join the 20th century. But your republican lawmakers are putting up a stink about that. They believe in celebrating your heritage. Try to separate yourselves from the rest of your state, but you can't. Virginia is the south and a large amount of your population celebrate the Confederacy. Especially this Friday! Go on an have a nice time. And for those of you in state jobs getting the day off, enjoy that free time because your Generals earned it for you.

Yee-haw!

I’m sorry, but the SPL Center has jumped the shark. That list includes multiple “radical catholic” organizations as “hate groups”. Gimme a break!

Sounds about right to me.

Nope, not right. Ridiculous.

I guess if you're an antisemite you might feel that way...

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/radical-traditional-catholicism
"Adherents of radical traditional Catholicism, or “integrism,” routinely pillory Jews as “the perpetual enemy of Christ” and worse, reject the ecumenical efforts of the Vatican, and sometimes even assert that recent popes have all been illegitimate. These groups are incensed by the liberalizing reforms of the 1962-65 Second Vatican Council, which condemned hatred for the Jews and rejected the accusation that Jews are collectively responsible for deicide in the form of the crucifixion of Christ."

Sounds like they're hate groups to me.

Still waiting to hear from PP about which one of these groups is “wrongly” labeled as a hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2007/12-anti-semitic-radical-traditionalist-catholic-groups

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I think this might change rather shortly given current politics.

OP, we’re all on your side, there’s no need to be crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe Virginia celebrates "Lee-Jackson" day as an official holiday. Yet another reason to not go near this state and certainly never live there. I always thought Virginian's saying the south will rise again was a joke or overstatement. Wow, was I wrong about that. So much better north of the Potomac.

You’re an idiot if you are unfamiliar with how non-southern northern Virginia is.

Really? Seems a lot of hate groups on NOVA based on this map below and one would guess they prefer things "the way they were."

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map?state=VA

Granted, now your governor is trying to abolish Lee Jackson day and join the 20th century. But your republican lawmakers are putting up a stink about that. They believe in celebrating your heritage. Try to separate yourselves from the rest of your state, but you can't. Virginia is the south and a large amount of your population celebrate the Confederacy. Especially this Friday! Go on an have a nice time. And for those of you in state jobs getting the day off, enjoy that free time because your Generals earned it for you.

Yee-haw!

I’m sorry, but the SPL Center has jumped the shark. That list includes multiple “radical catholic” organizations as “hate groups”. Gimme a break!

Sounds about right to me.

Nope, not right. Ridiculous.

I guess if you're an antisemite you might feel that way...

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/radical-traditional-catholicism
"Adherents of radical traditional Catholicism, or “integrism,” routinely pillory Jews as “the perpetual enemy of Christ” and worse, reject the ecumenical efforts of the Vatican, and sometimes even assert that recent popes have all been illegitimate. These groups are incensed by the liberalizing reforms of the 1962-65 Second Vatican Council, which condemned hatred for the Jews and rejected the accusation that Jews are collectively responsible for deicide in the form of the crucifixion of Christ."

Sounds like they're hate groups to me.

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Anonymous wrote:You're surprised the home of the capital of the confederacy.... celebrates its treasonous past?

Fixed that for you.

Anyone who celebrates the confederacy is a fool.