Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 13:44     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
Anonymous wrote:it is way less expensive, undergrad education is at least as good, there is less drugs and drinking, and they will benefit from an international experience.
Is it just because they do not have good football teams?


I don't understand the UK education system at all and have given up trying. It doesn't seem to provide the type of liberal arts grounding that I want my kids to have.

I looked at Canadian schools and they were just as expensive as my options in the US, so it's a lot of trouble for no benefit.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 13:16     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
Anonymous wrote:Or son applied and was accepted at a very very good university in the UK but has refused to go. He’s now been accepted early at Chicago. The cost difference, while we’re prepared, is eye watering especially as he got into such a good university in the UK and I reaaalllly wanted him to go for other reasons too-to broaden his horizons, make him that much more independent, and just live a different kind of life with different kids of people for a while.
Ah well.


LSE or Imperial?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 13:09     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If my kid had plans to work in the uk or Canada after graduation, I’d absolutely send. But if the plan is to work here, I’d rather he develop connections that will be useful here.


This is another thing to consider. A family member went to college in the UK and loved and wanted to stay. As a young graduate without any special skills, it was tough for her to get a job because she needed a visa and all of the young, similarly qualified UK and EU citizens did not. It was easier for a company to hire them than her. All of her friends and contacts are in the U.K. but she struggled to get a job there (and is in grad school in the U.K. instead).


The UK just changed the law so that so that non-British students now have two years leave to remain without employment contingency following their graduation. This is a dramatic shift from the current four months leave to remain without employment contingency.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 12:08     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
Or son applied and was accepted at a very very good university in the UK but has refused to go. He’s now been accepted early at Chicago. The cost difference, while we’re prepared, is eye watering especially as he got into such a good university in the UK and I reaaalllly wanted him to go for other reasons too-to broaden his horizons, make him that much more independent, and just live a different kind of life with different kids of people for a while.
Ah well.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 11:31     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
Anonymous wrote:If my kid had plans to work in the uk or Canada after graduation, I’d absolutely send. But if the plan is to work here, I’d rather he develop connections that will be useful here.


This is another thing to consider. A family member went to college in the UK and loved and wanted to stay. As a young graduate without any special skills, it was tough for her to get a job because she needed a visa and all of the young, similarly qualified UK and EU citizens did not. It was easier for a company to hire them than her. All of her friends and contacts are in the U.K. but she struggled to get a job there (and is in grad school in the U.K. instead).
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 11:12     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
Anonymous wrote:University of Toronto tuition fees:

Domestic:
Bachelors APPLIED SCIENCE & ENGINEERING $14,180

International:
Bachelors APPLIED SCIENCE & ENGINEERING ~ $61,000


This is definitely not like community college tuition even for domestic
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 10:30     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
Anonymous wrote:If either parent is a Canadian citizen, your kids can easily become Canadian citizens and qualify for the domestic rate even though you do not pay any Canadian taxes. My sister's kids do this. She admits that it is crazy but totally legal. The tuition is like going to community college here.



Canadian here and often saw this when I was at University.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 10:22     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
Anonymous wrote:If my kid had plans to work in the uk or Canada after graduation, I’d absolutely send. But if the plan is to work here, I’d rather he develop connections that will be useful here.



Depends how you define "here."

Several great schools in Canada are closer to "here" than those in CA, for example.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 10:19     Subject: Re:Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Canada is too cold and the UK is a ridiculously class-conscious society. No thanks.


So is the US but in a different way. Perhaps you feel like you are in a higher class here than you would be in the UK.



+1

BINGO. LV Neverfull seals it. LOL.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 10:15     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
If either parent is a Canadian citizen, your kids can easily become Canadian citizens and qualify for the domestic rate even though you do not pay any Canadian taxes. My sister's kids do this. She admits that it is crazy but totally legal. The tuition is like going to community college here.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 10:13     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
If my kid had plans to work in the uk or Canada after graduation, I’d absolutely send. But if the plan is to work here, I’d rather he develop connections that will be useful here.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 10:08     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
Assuming they want to come back to the US after graduation, I'd be worried that finding the first job would be much more challenging vs. going to a stateside school. Maybe that's silly, but my friends and I all had recruiters coming to campus and had employment offers before graduation, which wouldn't be possible if you were living abroad.

Would a foreign student be eligible to hold local internships in college?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 09:59     Subject: Re:Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Higher education in the UK is actually much, much better than higher education in the US. Not sure what you mean about football. Soccer and rugby are popular.


Patently false except for Oxbridge. Top to bottom US unis outclass the brits.


Yeah the London School of Economics is such trash. So is the Uof London or Edinburgh. ODU is much better than those


This is why it’s so stupid to say british higher ed is better than the US. Anyone can pick two schools to compare but what does that really prove? And it doesn’t even touch the different approaches to education.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 09:29     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
I am also from the UK. I went to a Russell Group university where the kids taking Math were dealing marijuana and they went on to be traders in the city, able to retire by 38 with several million pounds hand-shakes.

I didn't take drugs but they were there, including coke and this was in the 90s.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2020 20:20     Subject: Why do not you send your kids to Canada or UK?
I’m from the UK. There is lots and lots of drinking in UK universities. I don’t know much about drugs but I can’t imagine it’s any different to here in the US. There are lots of positives of British universities but I don’t think “less drinking” is one of them. I hope my kids will go to British universities and then come back to the US for grad school but we’ll see what they want when the time comes.