Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 12:00     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the children were playing at your house or the park under your watch, it is fine to settle a dispute between them. You are not in a position of authority at after care and should not intervene unless a child is in immediate danger.



OP here - I understand what you are saying, but it was not like yet. All I said was (and my own kids were with the other two kids) " hey kids, Johnny loves playing with you guys and he was so upset last night. He told me that the rest of you (including my other kid) did not want to let him play xyz game with the rest of you because he is not as fast as you. But he is practicing and will catch up to your speed if you give him a chance to be part of the group"....this kind of stuff. I spoke to them nicely, and was just trying have all four kids come to a common understanding, just with good intentions.


Nope. You were guilting them into playing with your kid. It’s not your place to force other kids to include yours. Doesn’t matter that one of them was yours.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 11:38     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:Hello Parents,

This is an honest question, since I am not from here and might not be aware of what the acceptable norms might be in an Elementary School Aftercare setting.
My kids go to aftercare every day and usually play with the same group of 2-6 kids, but are especially close to 2 kids, who are siblings. So, I see those 2 kids every single school day, since I and the other parent pick up at the same time. The other parent and I are not friendly. I always say a quick hello to those kids, but I engaged in a little conversation with them the other day, since there was a conflict situation between them and one of my kids. This also happened another time some time ago. They are not big issues, you know, stuff like one kid excluded the other kid from playing etc, and I would just have a friendly little chat with them about what happened. But both my kids and the aftercare instructors are present and the conversation is not confrontational. When the other parent arrives and sees that I am talking to her kids, she seems to get upset about it. So, my question is: am I not supposed to talk to her kids? Is this not acceptable in this culture? It is strange for me since the the kids are very friendly, so I do not understand why the mother would have to be so jumpy about it when she sees it. I am going to talk to the aftercare director and ask him this too, but I was curious to get some feedback. Thank you!


OP, to me, this is the issue. If these kids were kids whose parents you were friendly with, it would be less of an issue. This parent doesn't like you. It doesn't really matter why. Talking to her kids about "a conflict situation" is not appropriate, whether it is conversational or not. You are a parent. The conversation between you and any child, including your own, is not going to be an equal, friendly conversation if you are talking about behavior. In this situation, you should absolutely not have raised the issue with her kids. You raise the issue with the aftercare provider, the parent herself, or your own kid, but you keep your interactions with the other kids neutral and appropriate.

Also, why does it take your kids 15 minutes to leave aftercare? That is about 10 minutes too long, in my opinion.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 11:24     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not clueless. I would be happy if someone talks to my child in a constructive way. My kids were there too, and I was talking to them as a group. Not sure why this is such a big issue. I find it strange. I think it is just a cultural thing. People communicate differently here.


People don’t want you correcting their child, even in a friendly way. It’s not your place.


I don't care what you think about me correcting a child. I'm an adult and you're not the boss of me.

I correct other people's kids. If you don't like it, too bad. It doesn't sound as if OP was even correcting the children involved, anyway -- just talking to them.


So you’re a bully? I’d instruct aftercare to keep you the hell away from my kid. You don’t work there.


Yes, she is a bully. OP knows that she was on a power trip and defending her snowflake. She was hoping that we would ease her mind, but nope. Not happening.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 11:21     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:I was in downtown Bethesda the other evening and a bunch of out of control tweens were climbing on the chain that opens and shuts a garage door leading to the dumpsters of a business. Everyone was just walking by. I shouted from across the street, "Hey, cut that out. Bad idea. You could get killed." They were shocked. But then -- they stopped.

Seriously, all the people on this thread who think they have a right to tell other parents not to interact with their property -- er, children -- need to realize that those kids are also existing in the real world that they share with others. You cannot control whether or not other people talk directly to your children in the world, and you're not doing them any favors by raising them to believe they're in a portable bubble. It will end, and your kids won't know how to behave and others will ignore them, and they will be killed by a commercial garage door closing on them or choking them to death. But hey, no one spoke to your precious kids.


That is QUITE different from what OP is describing. She was settling disputes in aftercare where there is already an adult who is in charge. You were preventing kids on the street from doing something dangerous. I'm sorry you can't see the difference.

I have no problem correcting behavior in my house. Presumably, I know the parents well enough and they agreed for me to watch their kid for a period of time. That is NOT what is happening at school or aftercare.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 11:19     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hello Parents,

This is an honest question, since I am not from here and might not be aware of what the acceptable norms might be in an Elementary School Aftercare setting.
My kids go to aftercare every day and usually play with the same group of 2-6 kids, but are especially close to 2 kids, who are siblings. So, I see those 2 kids every single school day, since I and the other parent pick up at the same time. The other parent and I are not friendly. I always say a quick hello to those kids, but I engaged in a little conversation with them the other day, since there was a conflict situation between them and one of my kids. This also happened another time some time ago. They are not big issues, you know, stuff like one kid excluded the other kid from playing etc, and I would just have a friendly little chat with them about what happened. But both my kids and the aftercare instructors are present and the conversation is not confrontational. When the other parent arrives and sees that I am talking to her kids, she seems to get upset about it. So, my question is: am I not supposed to talk to her kids? Is this not acceptable in this culture? It is strange for me since the the kids are very friendly, so I do not understand why the mother would have to be so jumpy about it when she sees it. I am going to talk to the aftercare director and ask him this too, but I was curious to get some feedback. Thank you!


Nope- you're only allowed to talk with other children about their behavior if they are in your care, or it's dangerous or egregious and their parents or caregivers are not immediately present. I would be pretty upset if my child had a normal altercation with another child at school and another parent became involved.


This. I think this how normal conflicts between children got escalated into something much bigger. Kids can be mean to each other but they are quick to apologize and reconcile. Once parents got involved, things can get out of hand. The OP has mentioned that the other mother was kind of cool towards her to begin with. She really wasn't in any position to correct the other children's behavior.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 10:15     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:Hello Parents,

This is an honest question, since I am not from here and might not be aware of what the acceptable norms might be in an Elementary School Aftercare setting.
My kids go to aftercare every day and usually play with the same group of 2-6 kids, but are especially close to 2 kids, who are siblings. So, I see those 2 kids every single school day, since I and the other parent pick up at the same time. The other parent and I are not friendly. I always say a quick hello to those kids, but I engaged in a little conversation with them the other day, since there was a conflict situation between them and one of my kids. This also happened another time some time ago. They are not big issues, you know, stuff like one kid excluded the other kid from playing etc, and I would just have a friendly little chat with them about what happened. But both my kids and the aftercare instructors are present and the conversation is not confrontational. When the other parent arrives and sees that I am talking to her kids, she seems to get upset about it. So, my question is: am I not supposed to talk to her kids? Is this not acceptable in this culture? It is strange for me since the the kids are very friendly, so I do not understand why the mother would have to be so jumpy about it when she sees it. I am going to talk to the aftercare director and ask him this too, but I was curious to get some feedback. Thank you!


Nope- you're only allowed to talk with other children about their behavior if they are in your care, or it's dangerous or egregious and their parents or caregivers are not immediately present. I would be pretty upset if my child had a normal altercation with another child at school and another parent became involved.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 10:14     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here - thanks for the feedback everyone. Wow, so sad that this is the way many of you think social interaction should be. At least, sad for me. This is not how I grew up and this is not what I experience back in my old country. Adults are more involved with kids there. I had no idea that talking to my kids' friends is such a crime. So sad.


How long have you been here? I know plenty of immigrants, but have never seen any engage in the behavior you're defending. Instead of a "friendly chat" it likely comes off as lecturing.


I'm not an immigrant. I was born in the Nation's capitol, and I don't hesitate to talk to other people's children. How absurd to claim others don't have a right to interact with your children. Home school them if that's how you feel, and don't take them out in public either.


You mention "old country" which is why I assumed you're an immigrant, but okay, whatever.

I'm not sure what your limitations are, but you're completing misinterpreting what other PPs and I are telling you. Lecturing other kids about their behavior can be viewed as pushy, helicoptering behavior, especially when you don't know the whole story re: what has transpired between children. If you can't understand that this is how others are viewing your behavior, I don't know what else to tell you.

You can either continue your current MO and continue to get negative reactions from other parents, or you can consider what people are saying here.


I am not the OP. My point was that you don't have to be "from the old country" to talk to other people's kids. According to the OP, that's what she was doing. She was not lecturing them or chastising them. She was talking to them, and to her own kids.

Why the hell shouldn't I talk to my kids' friends? Ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 10:05     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was in downtown Bethesda the other evening and a bunch of out of control tweens were climbing on the chain that opens and shuts a garage door leading to the dumpsters of a business. Everyone was just walking by. I shouted from across the street, "Hey, cut that out. Bad idea. You could get killed." They were shocked. But then -- they stopped.

Seriously, all the people on this thread who think they have a right to tell other parents not to interact with their property -- er, children -- need to realize that those kids are also existing in the real world that they share with others. You cannot control whether or not other people talk directly to your children in the world, and you're not doing them any favors by raising them to believe they're in a portable bubble. It will end, and your kids won't know how to behave and others will ignore them, and they will be killed by a commercial garage door closing on them or choking them to death. But hey, no one spoke to your precious kids.


+100


-100. I agree that telling kids what not to do because it is a safety issue is fair game - and being a good citizen/parent IMO. But telling a couple of 13 yo's not to do something that might really hurt them isn't the same thing as telling a 7yo that they have to play with your kid and not exclude them is something different.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 10:03     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here - thanks for the feedback everyone. Wow, so sad that this is the way many of you think social interaction should be. At least, sad for me. This is not how I grew up and this is not what I experience back in my old country. Adults are more involved with kids there. I had no idea that talking to my kids' friends is such a crime. So sad.


How long have you been here? I know plenty of immigrants, but have never seen any engage in the behavior you're defending. Instead of a "friendly chat" it likely comes off as lecturing.


I'm not an immigrant. I was born in the Nation's capitol, and I don't hesitate to talk to other people's children. How absurd to claim others don't have a right to interact with your children. Home school them if that's how you feel, and don't take them out in public either.


You mention "old country" which is why I assumed you're an immigrant, but okay, whatever.

I'm not sure what your limitations are, but you're completing misinterpreting what other PPs and I are telling you. Lecturing other kids about their behavior can be viewed as pushy, helicoptering behavior, especially when you don't know the whole story re: what has transpired between children. If you can't understand that this is how others are viewing your behavior, I don't know what else to tell you.

You can either continue your current MO and continue to get negative reactions from other parents, or you can consider what people are saying here.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 09:56     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Let aftercare staff deal with those kinds of conversations.

If you want to say “hey how was school? How’s your soccer team?” small talk stuff, that is of course fine.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 09:55     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here - thanks for the feedback everyone. Wow, so sad that this is the way many of you think social interaction should be. At least, sad for me. This is not how I grew up and this is not what I experience back in my old country. Adults are more involved with kids there. I had no idea that talking to my kids' friends is such a crime. So sad.


How long have you been here? I know plenty of immigrants, but have never seen any engage in the behavior you're defending. Instead of a "friendly chat" it likely comes off as lecturing.


I'm not an immigrant. I was born in the Nation's capitol, and I don't hesitate to talk to other people's children. How absurd to claim others don't have a right to interact with your children. Home school them if that's how you feel, and don't take them out in public either.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 09:51     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:OP here - thanks for the feedback everyone. Wow, so sad that this is the way many of you think social interaction should be. At least, sad for me. This is not how I grew up and this is not what I experience back in my old country. Adults are more involved with kids there. I had no idea that talking to my kids' friends is such a crime. So sad.


How long have you been here? I know plenty of immigrants, but have never seen any engage in the behavior you're defending. Instead of a "friendly chat" it likely comes off as lecturing.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 09:50     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:I was in downtown Bethesda the other evening and a bunch of out of control tweens were climbing on the chain that opens and shuts a garage door leading to the dumpsters of a business. Everyone was just walking by. I shouted from across the street, "Hey, cut that out. Bad idea. You could get killed." They were shocked. But then -- they stopped.

Seriously, all the people on this thread who think they have a right to tell other parents not to interact with their property -- er, children -- need to realize that those kids are also existing in the real world that they share with others. You cannot control whether or not other people talk directly to your children in the world, and you're not doing them any favors by raising them to believe they're in a portable bubble. It will end, and your kids won't know how to behave and others will ignore them, and they will be killed by a commercial garage door closing on them or choking them to death. But hey, no one spoke to your precious kids.


+100
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 09:47     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

Anonymous wrote:OP here, ok thanks. It was a group thing, meaning my other kid and those other kids excluded my other kid. And the aftercare teachers reported it to me. So, of course I talked to my own kid about it that night. Since the four kids are friendly, I thought i would also chat about it with the other two kids. I don't think I am annoying; I guess I did not understand that when I pick up my kids and sometimes have to wait 15 or minutes while they are still playing and getting ready, I am not allowed to talk in a friendly way to the other kids. Guess it must be a cultural thing. I would not be offended, in fact, I would be happy if someone did the same to my kids. As I said, it was done in a friendly way. Anyway, will talk to the director tomorrow and now I know.


You aren't listening OP. No one is saying or has said you shouldn't "talk in a friendly was to the other kids". Just seeing you repeat this tells me you may be dramatic and annoying. The point is that is it not your place to lecture/coach another child about how to behave - leave that up to the aftercare staff or speak with the other kids parents if you can't resits letting them work it out.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2019 09:47     Subject: Am I not supposed to talk to other people's kids at aftercare?

OP here - thanks for the feedback everyone. Wow, so sad that this is the way many of you think social interaction should be. At least, sad for me. This is not how I grew up and this is not what I experience back in my old country. Adults are more involved with kids there. I had no idea that talking to my kids' friends is such a crime. So sad.