Anonymous wrote:A 2.5 year old won't nap for much longer. So, you are going to be paying someone to basically ignore your kid so they can do chores.

OP here and as I’ve said multiple times, the chores would be for when DD is in preschool, or in class with us. Not when she’s at home.

Anonymous wrote:Degreed nannies are of course professionals.

The elephant in the room question of course is, why do so many women have no interest in raising their own children? The kids are an afterthought, or a weekend hobby.

That elephant is hiding behind the bigger elephant - why do so many men have no interest in raising their own children? The kids are after an afterthought, they don't even take point on hiring childcare!

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soooo, you have no answer because I hit nail on the head.

You simply have no interest in your children. How awful for them.

Anonymous wrote:Degreed nannies are of course professionals.

The elephant in the room question of course is, why do so many women have no interest in raising their own children? The kids are an afterthought, or a weekend hobby.

Mainly just to piss you off, no other reason.

Degreed nannies are of course professionals.

The elephant in the room question of course is, why do so many women have no interest in raising their own children? The kids are an afterthought, or a weekend hobby.

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Anonymous wrote:I chose #1. These are the most important years of intellectual development in a child’s life. I want my child engaged, playing outside, and learning with a great nanny - not watching someone vacuum.

As I mentioned in my post, the housework would only be for when DD is not at home. And I’ve found a few who are fluent in English, so that’s not an issue. But I guess there could very well be a difference in quality of engagement...

Fluent in spoken English and the ability to read English are two very different things. I’m the PP from above and I want my child doing art projects, looking for birds’ nests in the park, being read to, playing pretend games, etc. A good nanny understands scaffolding in play with a child which is so important.

Housework can wait. Adult engagement is paramount at this age. I would definitely go with #1.

One can be quite good at all of the above things without having the degree that would teach you about "scaffolding."

True, I suppose but good luck finding that in a person who will also scrub your floors and toilets.

OP here. Never said anything about scrubbing the toilets. I said meal prep, family laundry, dishes. Aka the day to day stuff. We have cleaners for actual cleaning.

And yes, they read English well. And in some cases are bilingual.

Here’s the thing. Most professional nannies have degrees and don’t want to do housework. If you’re a lawyer, do you want to also do the office janitorial work? I didn’t go to school to learn about early childhood education and study foreign languages so I could graduate and fold my employers underpants. Professional nannies are not cleaners. How would you feel if your boss asked you to clean?

I could understand this attitude if you were watching a child who is always around and never naps. But if the child is in school or napping (as the OP describes) why not? Most jobs don't give hours of free time either.

But the thing is, they do. My time is my time and I’m paid to be on call during the day in case of sick days, days off school and winter, spring and summer breaks. I think OP should hire a nanny housekeeper, as that is more suited to her needs. I only came here to defend nannies, when a pp said professional nannies don’t exist.

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Anonymous wrote:I chose #1. These are the most important years of intellectual development in a child’s life. I want my child engaged, playing outside, and learning with a great nanny - not watching someone vacuum.

As I mentioned in my post, the housework would only be for when DD is not at home. And I’ve found a few who are fluent in English, so that’s not an issue. But I guess there could very well be a difference in quality of engagement...

Fluent in spoken English and the ability to read English are two very different things. I’m the PP from above and I want my child doing art projects, looking for birds’ nests in the park, being read to, playing pretend games, etc. A good nanny understands scaffolding in play with a child which is so important.

Housework can wait. Adult engagement is paramount at this age. I would definitely go with #1.

One can be quite good at all of the above things without having the degree that would teach you about "scaffolding."

True, I suppose but good luck finding that in a person who will also scrub your floors and toilets.

OP here. Never said anything about scrubbing the toilets. I said meal prep, family laundry, dishes. Aka the day to day stuff. We have cleaners for actual cleaning.

And yes, they read English well. And in some cases are bilingual.

Here’s the thing. Most professional nannies have degrees and don’t want to do housework. If you’re a lawyer, do you want to also do the office janitorial work? I didn’t go to school to learn about early childhood education and study foreign languages so I could graduate and fold my employers underpants. Professional nannies are not cleaners. How would you feel if your boss asked you to clean?

You are working in someone's home. I have pitched in and cleaned at my professional job many times.

An early education degree is usually an AA. A foreign language is not education or bragging rights. Except if you went to a professional school to be a nanny, its not a profession.

I studied early childhood education and have a masters degree in education. I used to be a teacher and speak 4 languages. Thankfully I work for a family (unlike someone like you) who views me as a professional. Of course I pitch in, but there’s a difference between helpful tidying and folding my employers laundry. I prefer working as a nanny one on one vs teaching, because it pays more and my nanny family is respectful and kind.

Anonymous wrote:A 2.5 year old won't nap for much longer. So, you are going to be paying someone to basically ignore your kid so they can do chores.

Depends on the kid. Mine is 4 and still naps 2 hrs a day.

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Anonymous wrote:I chose #1. These are the most important years of intellectual development in a child’s life. I want my child engaged, playing outside, and learning with a great nanny - not watching someone vacuum.

As I mentioned in my post, the housework would only be for when DD is not at home. And I’ve found a few who are fluent in English, so that’s not an issue. But I guess there could very well be a difference in quality of engagement...

Fluent in spoken English and the ability to read English are two very different things. I’m the PP from above and I want my child doing art projects, looking for birds’ nests in the park, being read to, playing pretend games, etc. A good nanny understands scaffolding in play with a child which is so important.

Housework can wait. Adult engagement is paramount at this age. I would definitely go with #1.

One can be quite good at all of the above things without having the degree that would teach you about "scaffolding."

True, I suppose but good luck finding that in a person who will also scrub your floors and toilets.

OP here. Never said anything about scrubbing the toilets. I said meal prep, family laundry, dishes. Aka the day to day stuff. We have cleaners for actual cleaning.

And yes, they read English well. And in some cases are bilingual.

Here’s the thing. Most professional nannies have degrees and don’t want to do housework. If you’re a lawyer, do you want to also do the office janitorial work? I didn’t go to school to learn about early childhood education and study foreign languages so I could graduate and fold my employers underpants. Professional nannies are not cleaners. How would you feel if your boss asked you to clean?

I could understand this attitude if you were watching a child who is always around and never naps. But if the child is in school or napping (as the OP describes) why not? Most jobs don't give hours of free time either.

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Anonymous wrote:I chose #1. These are the most important years of intellectual development in a child’s life. I want my child engaged, playing outside, and learning with a great nanny - not watching someone vacuum.

As I mentioned in my post, the housework would only be for when DD is not at home. And I’ve found a few who are fluent in English, so that’s not an issue. But I guess there could very well be a difference in quality of engagement...

Fluent in spoken English and the ability to read English are two very different things. I’m the PP from above and I want my child doing art projects, looking for birds’ nests in the park, being read to, playing pretend games, etc. A good nanny understands scaffolding in play with a child which is so important.

Housework can wait. Adult engagement is paramount at this age. I would definitely go with #1.

One can be quite good at all of the above things without having the degree that would teach you about "scaffolding."

True, I suppose but good luck finding that in a person who will also scrub your floors and toilets.

OP here. Never said anything about scrubbing the toilets. I said meal prep, family laundry, dishes. Aka the day to day stuff. We have cleaners for actual cleaning.

And yes, they read English well. And in some cases are bilingual.

Here’s the thing. Most professional nannies have degrees and don’t want to do housework. If you’re a lawyer, do you want to also do the office janitorial work? I didn’t go to school to learn about early childhood education and study foreign languages so I could graduate and fold my employers underpants. Professional nannies are not cleaners. How would you feel if your boss asked you to clean?

You are working in someone's home. I have pitched in and cleaned at my professional job many times.

An early education degree is usually an AA. A foreign language is not education or bragging rights. Except if you went to a professional school to be a nanny, its not a profession.

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Anonymous wrote:I chose #1. These are the most important years of intellectual development in a child’s life. I want my child engaged, playing outside, and learning with a great nanny - not watching someone vacuum.

As I mentioned in my post, the housework would only be for when DD is not at home. And I’ve found a few who are fluent in English, so that’s not an issue. But I guess there could very well be a difference in quality of engagement...

Fluent in spoken English and the ability to read English are two very different things. I’m the PP from above and I want my child doing art projects, looking for birds’ nests in the park, being read to, playing pretend games, etc. A good nanny understands scaffolding in play with a child which is so important.

Housework can wait. Adult engagement is paramount at this age. I would definitely go with #1.

One can be quite good at all of the above things without having the degree that would teach you about "scaffolding."

True, I suppose but good luck finding that in a person who will also scrub your floors and toilets.

OP here. Never said anything about scrubbing the toilets. I said meal prep, family laundry, dishes. Aka the day to day stuff. We have cleaners for actual cleaning.

And yes, they read English well. And in some cases are bilingual.

Here’s the thing. Most professional nannies have degrees and don’t want to do housework. If you’re a lawyer, do you want to also do the office janitorial work? I didn’t go to school to learn about early childhood education and study foreign languages so I could graduate and fold my employers underpants. Professional nannies are not cleaners. How would you feel if your boss asked you to clean?

Anonymous wrote:No such thing as a professional nanny. It is not unreasonable for someone to help around the house. I would say we pay $20 an hour for no house help. $23 an hour with help. I think day care is better at that age.

That’s weird because I’ve been a professional career nanny for over 20 years. We exist!

The highly-paid, so-called professional nannies are highly overrated. I see them at the playground and they're always on their phones. Parents pay $$$$ because they think it means the nanny won't ignore their kid, but that still happens. Get someone down-to-earth. They are out there.

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which is why the parents need to hurry home from work and start parenting and cleaning their messes! As a professional child-rearer, I do not clean up messes.

Cleaning up child-related messes is on you.

Nope. Be a parent. Get home to your kids.

During your shift is your responsibility (ie. crumbs from lunch, paint splatters). Totally agree that kids clothes that were on the floor when you got there stay there.

A 2.5 year old won't nap for much longer. So, you are going to be paying someone to basically ignore your kid so they can do chores.