Anonymous
Post 11/30/2019 06:44     Subject: Re:What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Family, kids.

Yes, I agree in general if your goal is to have a great sex life then don't get married.


Man here, and THIS. +1000

I adore my kids. I love my family. Having someone to care for, to provide for, gives my life meaning. The tradeoff is that I must have sex with the same person. Over. And over. And over again. For the rest of my life.

But if I had to do it over again, I would have waited. And I would have chosen much more carefully.


Plus one to all of this. I wouldn't trade my kids for anything and my wife is a good person but I would have waited too. Met wife at 26 and married by 31. Also, she is a year older than me and I know I will catch heat for this but I would have married slightly younger if only because her libido would have held out longer with me
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2019 06:40     Subject: Re:What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but what is the benefit for the sexually active woman?

Men don’t get better with age...at least not in sex appeal. The only people who think this have to be men. Most men past 50 have poorly functioning equipment and dad bods....most lose their magic in that department by their mid 40s. Single and married women know this and discuss it all the time with one another.

Gorgeous women don’t want old and rich when they can be rich without a man and have sex with someone younger themselves.

OP- at some point, the old rich guy that doesn’t want to settle is going to have to because the odds are not in his favor with the passing of time. Few attractive women in today’s society will want an old bachelor who has lost his sex appeal.


I.am married with no do in this fight but you have to be kidding me with this post. My friends in their later 40s early 50s who are single have endless options for dating women. Mind you, they are attractive and professionally successful but women flock to them.

This isn't to say that an attractive woman can't find a sex partner if she just wants casual sex. That part is and always will be easy
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2019 00:34     Subject: Re:What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Sorry but what is the benefit for the sexually active woman?

Men don’t get better with age...at least not in sex appeal. The only people who think this have to be men. Most men past 50 have poorly functioning equipment and dad bods....most lose their magic in that department by their mid 40s. Single and married women know this and discuss it all the time with one another.

Gorgeous women don’t want old and rich when they can be rich without a man and have sex with someone younger themselves.

OP- at some point, the old rich guy that doesn’t want to settle is going to have to because the odds are not in his favor with the passing of time. Few attractive women in today’s society will want an old bachelor who has lost his sex appeal.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2019 00:24     Subject: Re:What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:
And? Does that choice change the truth of what I said? Is is a physical disadvantage to a woman. Period. Adding other random points in doesn’t change the major thread discussion point.


Men still die sooner than women, overall, despite this "physical disadvantage" of childbirth, so stop whining.


And if I have a physical disadvantage, who says it’s better to live longer anyway? Lol
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2019 00:23     Subject: Re:What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:
And? Does that choice change the truth of what I said? Is is a physical disadvantage to a woman. Period. Adding other random points in doesn’t change the major thread discussion point.


Men still die sooner than women, overall, despite this "physical disadvantage" of childbirth, so stop whining.


But married men live longer and are healthier than married women. Again, talking about marriage, not “overall”.

PS:
This is a DCUM relationship forum. Whining is par for the course.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2019 00:11     Subject: Re:What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

And? Does that choice change the truth of what I said? Is is a physical disadvantage to a woman. Period. Adding other random points in doesn’t change the major thread discussion point.


Men still die sooner than women, overall, despite this "physical disadvantage" of childbirth, so stop whining.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2019 00:10     Subject: What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Statistically married men live longer and healthier lives than unmarried men. Now is that because they are married or those types tend to get married and take fewer risks. Don't know.


But married women live shorter, less healthy lives than their single counterparts.

I think the title should be what do women get out of it. Men I understand. Women are less clear to me.


Women used to get shelter, food, security in exchange for childbearing, independence. Now that everbing is an equal partnership? Women get he short end of the stick.

All things being equal
We both make $X
We both have degrees
We both want children


Yet. Everyone leverages something and brings something to the table, each relationship is different.


Pregnancy does not last 1 year, or two. Babies do not need to breastfeed. Everything is a choice. If women get used to shelter, food, support etc- that is their choice, to leave everything up to their man/ woman. Women have to earn their own money to have a say in what happens in the home.



My point is only a woman is having a baby. That’s literal labor no one else can do. And yes, your body is different for 8-20 months. Literally. Unless you adopt. That’s why I said all things being equal, we still get the short end of the stick.


But that is your choice then. You have to accept what you choose.


And? Does that choice change the truth of what I said? Is is a physical disadvantage to a woman. Period. Adding other random points in doesn’t change the major thread discussion point.

Besides, women and men make blind choices about marriage everyday. Did I not say that every relationship ship is different, and people leverage things in different ways to make it feel more fair? I don’t see you contradicting or introducing anything new here.


Then you should probably have ignored me, no?
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2019 00:09     Subject: What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Statistically married men live longer and healthier lives than unmarried men. Now is that because they are married or those types tend to get married and take fewer risks. Don't know.


But married women live shorter, less healthy lives than their single counterparts.

I think the title should be what do women get out of it. Men I understand. Women are less clear to me.


The idea that men benefit more from marriage than women has been debunked.

And you should be glad that it has. If it were true, then women would have to be pretty damn stupid -- they are the ones always pushing for marriage in a relationship.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2019 00:03     Subject: What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Statistically married men live longer and healthier lives than unmarried men. Now is that because they are married or those types tend to get married and take fewer risks. Don't know.


But married women live shorter, less healthy lives than their single counterparts.

I think the title should be what do women get out of it. Men I understand. Women are less clear to me.


Women used to get shelter, food, security in exchange for childbearing, independence. Now that everbing is an equal partnership? Women get he short end of the stick.

All things being equal
We both make $X
We both have degrees
We both want children


Yet. Everyone leverages something and brings something to the table, each relationship is different.


Pregnancy does not last 1 year, or two. Babies do not need to breastfeed. Everything is a choice. If women get used to shelter, food, support etc- that is their choice, to leave everything up to their man/ woman. Women have to earn their own money to have a say in what happens in the home.



My point is only a woman is having a baby. That’s literal labor no one else can do. And yes, your body is different for 8-20 months. Literally. Unless you adopt. That’s why I said all things being equal, we still get the short end of the stick.


But that is your choice then. You have to accept what you choose.


And? Does that choice change the truth of what I said? Is is a physical disadvantage to a woman. Period. Adding other random points in doesn’t change the major thread discussion point.

Besides, women and men make blind choices about marriage everyday. Did I not say that every relationship ship is different, and people leverage things in different ways to make it feel more fair? I don’t see you contradicting or introducing anything new here.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2019 23:56     Subject: What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Uh, security, stability, family, home... I feel so sorry for you


This seems like it was written by a woman. Reads like a woman's marriage wishlist.

There are a lot of unhappy marriages out there for which none, if any, of these apply anyway.


Enjoy dying alone


Newsflash: everyone dies alone. No one is dying with you.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2019 23:51     Subject: What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Statistically married men live longer and healthier lives than unmarried men. Now is that because they are married or those types tend to get married and take fewer risks. Don't know.


But married women live shorter, less healthy lives than their single counterparts.

I think the title should be what do women get out of it. Men I understand. Women are less clear to me.


Women used to get shelter, food, security in exchange for childbearing, independence. Now that everbing is an equal partnership? Women get he short end of the stick.

All things being equal
We both make $X
We both have degrees
We both want children


Yet. Everyone leverages something and brings something to the table, each relationship is different.


Pregnancy does not last 1 year, or two. Babies do not need to breastfeed. Everything is a choice. If women get used to shelter, food, support etc- that is their choice, to leave everything up to their man/ woman. Women have to earn their own money to have a say in what happens in the home.



My point is only a woman is having a baby. That’s literal labor no one else can do. And yes, your body is different for 8-20 months. Literally. Unless you adopt. That’s why I said all things being equal, we still get the short end of the stick.


But that is your choice then. You have to accept what you choose.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2019 23:47     Subject: What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Statistically married men live longer and healthier lives than unmarried men. Now is that because they are married or those types tend to get married and take fewer risks. Don't know.


But married women live shorter, less healthy lives than their single counterparts.

I think the title should be what do women get out of it. Men I understand. Women are less clear to me.


Women used to get shelter, food, security in exchange for childbearing, independence. Now that everbing is an equal partnership? Women get he short end of the stick.

All things being equal
We both make $X
We both have degrees
We both want children


Yet. Everyone leverages something and brings something to the table, each relationship is different.


Pregnancy does not last 1 year, or two. Babies do not need to breastfeed. Everything is a choice. If women get used to shelter, food, support etc- that is their choice, to leave everything up to their man/ woman. Women have to earn their own money to have a say in what happens in the home.



My point is only a woman is having a baby. That’s literal labor no one else can do. And yes, your body is different for 8-20 months. Literally. Unless you adopt. That’s why I said all things being equal, we still get the short end of the stick.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2019 23:32     Subject: What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Both DH and I are in a high risk/high reward field. Surprised no one else counts hedging salary as a benefit. There have been years he kept us afloat and years that I have.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2019 23:27     Subject: What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Statistically married men live longer and healthier lives than unmarried men. Now is that because they are married or those types tend to get married and take fewer risks. Don't know.


But married women live shorter, less healthy lives than their single counterparts.

I think the title should be what do women get out of it. Men I understand. Women are less clear to me.


Women used to get shelter, food, security in exchange for childbearing, independence. Now that everbing is an equal partnership? Women get he short end of the stick.

All things being equal
We both make $X
We both have degrees
We both want children


Yet. Everyone leverages something and brings something to the table, each relationship is different.


Pregnancy does not last 1 year, or two. Babies do not need to breastfeed. Everything is a choice. If women get used to shelter, food, support etc- that is their choice, to leave everything up to their man/ woman. Women have to earn their own money to have a say in what happens in the home.

Anonymous
Post 11/29/2019 23:16     Subject: What’s the benefit of a long term relationship for men?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Statistically married men live longer and healthier lives than unmarried men. Now is that because they are married or those types tend to get married and take fewer risks. Don't know.


But married women live shorter, less healthy lives than their single counterparts.

I think the title should be what do women get out of it. Men I understand. Women are less clear to me.


Women used to get shelter, food, security in exchange for childbearing, independence. Now that everbing is an equal partnership? Women get he short end of the stick.

All things being equal
We both make $X
We both have degrees
We both want children

Unless we are adopting ...
Only ONE of us has the physical impairment of pregnancy for an entire year, sometimes two. Not to mention another 12 months offering a milky boob on demand. Then parenting defaults to us because kids prefer mom very often. It’s not equal. It’s at least 90 measurable days out of the workforce where we cannot produce income easily and contribute to 401k, make career moves, etc.

Yet. Everyone leverages something and brings something to the table, each relationship is different.