Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 09:14     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, 86% of people who identify as Republicans still support Trump, but the overall number of people who identify as Republicans has dropped significantly since the 2016 election.

That isn't factored into the equation.


The number of independents are growing and they are coming from both parties. For example, I have voted consistently Democratic for decades but now I register as an independent because both parties are just ridiculously polarized. Whether I vote for a Democrat in 2020 will depend on who is nominated.


Because your default is...Trump?


More precisely I don't have a default. It used to be the Democrat in most races but the mindless partisanship on both sides is so out of control that it makes no sense to vote Democrat irrespective of the candidate. Whether it is for House, Senate or presidential elections, the candidate has to "earn" my vote.


So, again - your default is Trump.

Anyway, enjoy life up in your treetop, where you can wait for your ideal candidate to come whisk you away. Most of us are willing to compromise in order to not have a tantrum-prone corruption monster in charge. There is no perfect candidate, by the way. They are all humans - flawed, and human.


+1

Put on your big girl panties and vote like an adult.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 08:36     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

Anonymous wrote:“A growing number of Republicans are privately warning of increasing fears of a total wipeout in 2020: House, Senate, and White House.”

https://amp.axios.com/republican-party-2020-election-wipeout-house-senate-trump-3ca4a371-cdfb-4213-9ff0-2cf058aa7537.html?__twitter_impression=true


And yet the GOP has the power to try and stop this.

They are doing nothing but watching the train wreck happen.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 19:50     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:47.7% Independents support impeachment. In 2016, Trump won 46% of Independent votes. Trump can't win without Independents.


It appears that he is maintaining the support of the independents who helped him win in 2016.

It appears that support for impeachment by Independents just keeps growing. You don't know how to think strategically.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/impeachment-polls/
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 19:45     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:47.7% Independents support impeachment. In 2016, Trump won 46% of Independent votes. Trump can't win without Independents.


It appears that he is maintaining the support of the independents who helped him win in 2016.

Yes, if you live in the upside down.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 19:41     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

Anonymous wrote:47.7% Independents support impeachment. In 2016, Trump won 46% of Independent votes. Trump can't win without Independents.


It appears that he is maintaining the support of the independents who helped him win in 2016.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 19:39     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

47.7% Independents support impeachment. In 2016, Trump won 46% of Independent votes. Trump can't win without Independents.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 18:30     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, 86% of people who identify as Republicans still support Trump, but the overall number of people who identify as Republicans has dropped significantly since the 2016 election.

That isn't factored into the equation.


The number of independents are growing and they are coming from both parties. For example, I have voted consistently Democratic for decades but now I register as an independent because both parties are just ridiculously polarized. Whether I vote for a Democrat in 2020 will depend on who is nominated.


Because your default is...Trump?


More precisely I don't have a default. It used to be the Democrat in most races but the mindless partisanship on both sides is so out of control that it makes no sense to vote Democrat irrespective of the candidate. Whether it is for House, Senate or presidential elections, the candidate has to "earn" my vote.

Whoever the Democratic nominee is, it’s a pretty sure bet that they won’t be a traitor to our country. That should be enough.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 18:20     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

This is why Trump and the GOP uphold foreign meddling in our election, it’s the only way they win.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 18:10     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, 86% of people who identify as Republicans still support Trump, but the overall number of people who identify as Republicans has dropped significantly since the 2016 election.

That isn't factored into the equation.


The number of independents are growing and they are coming from both parties. For example, I have voted consistently Democratic for decades but now I register as an independent because both parties are just ridiculously polarized. Whether I vote for a Democrat in 2020 will depend on who is nominated.


Because your default is...Trump?


More precisely I don't have a default. It used to be the Democrat in most races but the mindless partisanship on both sides is so out of control that it makes no sense to vote Democrat irrespective of the candidate. Whether it is for House, Senate or presidential elections, the candidate has to "earn" my vote.


So, again - your default is Trump.

Anyway, enjoy life up in your treetop, where you can wait for your ideal candidate to come whisk you away. Most of us are willing to compromise in order to not have a tantrum-prone corruption monster in charge. There is no perfect candidate, by the way. They are all humans - flawed, and human.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 18:05     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

“A growing number of Republicans are privately warning of increasing fears of a total wipeout in 2020: House, Senate, and White House.”

https://amp.axios.com/republican-party-2020-election-wipeout-house-senate-trump-3ca4a371-cdfb-4213-9ff0-2cf058aa7537.html?__twitter_impression=true
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 18:00     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, 86% of people who identify as Republicans still support Trump, but the overall number of people who identify as Republicans has dropped significantly since the 2016 election.

That isn't factored into the equation.


The number of independents are growing and they are coming from both parties. For example, I have voted consistently Democratic for decades but now I register as an independent because both parties are just ridiculously polarized. Whether I vote for a Democrat in 2020 will depend on who is nominated.


Because your default is...Trump?


More precisely I don't have a default. It used to be the Democrat in most races but the mindless partisanship on both sides is so out of control that it makes no sense to vote Democrat irrespective of the candidate. Whether it is for House, Senate or presidential elections, the candidate has to "earn" my vote.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 17:02     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

There were always going to be public hearings. The complaints from the right were totally unfounded.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 16:56     Subject: Re:"It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

Anonymous wrote:This is where the elections will be decided - the battleground states named below and a few others. National numbers in support of impeachment are of limited value:

Fifty-three percent of voters in six battleground states oppose impeaching President Donald Trump and removing him from office, according to a New York Times/Siena College poll.

Forty-three percent in the swing states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona support impeachment and removal.

The survey results for those key states were released Monday. Here is how they break down:

92% of Republicans oppose impeachment and removal, compared to 5% who support it.
14% of Democrats oppose impeachment and removal, while 84% support it.
55% of independents are against impeachment and removal, compared to 39% who back it.
50% of all those surveyed support the impeachment inquiry of Trump, while 45% oppose it.


For those who think that Republican senators will flip and vote for Trump's removal - you are living in a dream world.


This explains why Nancy is going public with the impeachment proceedings. Need folks in swing states to hear the damning testimony directly.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 16:54     Subject: Re:"It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

Anonymous wrote:This is where the elections will be decided - the battleground states named below and a few others. National numbers in support of impeachment are of limited value:

Fifty-three percent of voters in six battleground states oppose impeaching President Donald Trump and removing him from office, according to a New York Times/Siena College poll.

Forty-three percent in the swing states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona support impeachment and removal.

The survey results for those key states were released Monday. Here is how they break down:

92% of Republicans oppose impeachment and removal, compared to 5% who support it.
14% of Democrats oppose impeachment and removal, while 84% support it.
55% of independents are against impeachment and removal, compared to 39% who back it.
50% of all those surveyed support the impeachment inquiry of Trump, while 45% oppose it.


For those who think that Republican senators will flip and vote for Trump's removal - you are living in a dream world.

Even if they don't support removal (or impeachment), it doesn't mean that those Independents would vote for Trump. But, 55% is a narrow margin. What's the margin of error on these polls?
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2019 16:50     Subject: "It feels like a horror movie" -- Republicans weigh in on having to defend Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, 86% of people who identify as Republicans still support Trump, but the overall number of people who identify as Republicans has dropped significantly since the 2016 election.

That isn't factored into the equation.


The number of independents are growing and they are coming from both parties. For example, I have voted consistently Democratic for decades but now I register as an independent because both parties are just ridiculously polarized. Whether I vote for a Democrat in 2020 will depend on who is nominated.


Because your default is...Trump?