Australian PP here. Yes the number 1 priority is to not have the dogs bored and lonely. So yes normally more than one pet, either cat or dog. Or work schedule or people home relatively often.

I guess alot of our time is sort of outdoors anyway, winter and summer (unless too hot) so we are with the dogs a lot anyway.

We do have strict rules about barking but not many dogs bark. We teach them not to bark excessively, but dogs mainly bark constantly if they are lonely or anxious. In my neighbourhood - my street, there are so many dogs and cats but none barking at night or day, except the occasional bark at a bird or cat.

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Anonymous wrote:So I live in Australia and I really want to understand the issue of a dog outside. I have no snark but I just don’t understand.

Here everyone has a high fenced yard. Most dogs are outside dogs and absolutely love it. My dog, a Maltese is an indoor and outdoor dog. We have a little doggy door that she can go in and out as she chooses, when we are not home.

I just don’t understand why it’s considered cruel. We also don’t crate train our dogs ever. Never even heard of it.

My dog is so happy. Loves loves loves outside and also loves inside, but I’d say she prefers to play outside.

I grew up in England and things were similar to what you have described except we never had a doggy door. During the warmer months the back door was open and the dog came inside when it wanted, and when it was inside it went outside to poop. In the cooler months it stayed inside but would wait by the back door to go outside and poop. Never had a crate either and I had never heard of crating a dog until I read comments on this forum.

If either of you could follow the bouncing ball, which any lab could do, you could comprehend from the OPs first post that she is not looking for a dog to come in and out at will -she is looking for a dog that lives outside, period. There is a difference between a dog that is offered the outdoors and one who is forced to stay there, alone.

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my Australian relatives have plenty of dogs. The dogs spend a great deal of time out doors, as all Australians do, but they are welcome inside, too.

We may have stricter ordinances here about barking.

Anonymous wrote:I’m the Australian PP. Most dogs here are outside only dogs and are not allowed inside. So I don’t think it’s cruel. My dog is like a child to me but she is first and foremost an animal

Interesting. Is it common to have multiple dogs? Part of the issue I think is that dogs can be bonded to other dogs, or to people (or sometimes to both) but they don’t generally like to just be alone all the time.

I’m the Australian PP. Most dogs here are outside only dogs and are not allowed inside. So I don’t think it’s cruel. My dog is like a child to me but she is first and foremost an animal

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I live in Australia and I really want to understand the issue of a dog outside. I have no snark but I just don’t understand.

Here everyone has a high fenced yard. Most dogs are outside dogs and absolutely love it. My dog, a Maltese is an indoor and outdoor dog. We have a little doggy door that she can go in and out as she chooses, when we are not home.

I just don’t understand why it’s considered cruel. We also don’t crate train our dogs ever. Never even heard of it.

My dog is so happy. Loves loves loves outside and also loves inside, but I’d say she prefers to play outside.

I grew up in England and things were similar to what you have described except we never had a doggy door. During the warmer months the back door was open and the dog came inside when it wanted, and when it was inside it went outside to poop. In the cooler months it stayed inside but would wait by the back door to go outside and poop. Never had a crate either and I had never heard of crating a dog until I read comments on this forum.

If either of you could follow the bouncing ball, which any lab could do, you could comprehend from the OPs first post that she is not looking for a dog to come in and out at will -she is looking for a dog that lives outside, period. There is a difference between a dog that is offered the outdoors and one who is forced to stay there, alone.

I was responding to the poster from Australia not the OP. Seeing as how you're so clever, I'm sure you don't need me to tell you where to stick the bouncing ball that you have mentioned.

And yet, you STILL can’t answer the OP.
I don’t need help.. the OP does.

We have a nice, big, fenced in backyard and our dogs love to go outside and do their "rounds". But they also love being inside with us and snuggling up with us (and each other) on the couch. They are very much velcro dogs and they are our babies. They would hate being kept outside all of the time and they would voice their discontent loudly.

From what I've seen, the non-velcro dogs also tend to be diggers, jumpers and escape artists. Even if you truly had a dog that didn't mind being outside by him/herself, the dog would most likely get out a lot. And, no, chaining a dog outside in your backyard is not something you do to a beloved pet.

Dogs need lots of love and attention. They *need* to be part of the family. I agree that your daughter should volunteer for an animal rescue. Please do not get a dog, Op.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you would be reported to Animal Control so fast your head would spin. Let her like dogs, don't get one for your household.

Our former neighbors kept two dogs outside.

Even when they went away in the summer for weeks.

They were reported.

The animal control folks were rightly concerned about water, food, and "shelter" (which was an overhead tailgating tent). From their viewpoint, checked all the boxes and no action.

Barking at all hours of the night, esp. with summer thunderstorms. Neighbors called MoCo police non-emergency line regarding noise violation. Came out. Nothing happened.

So, in my opinion, not great for the dogs.

IME, being reported in a big county results in nothing happening.

So in MoCo, it's not illegal?

I am the pp writer. We are in MoCo. Nothing changed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I live in Australia and I really want to understand the issue of a dog outside. I have no snark but I just don’t understand.

Here everyone has a high fenced yard. Most dogs are outside dogs and absolutely love it. My dog, a Maltese is an indoor and outdoor dog. We have a little doggy door that she can go in and out as she chooses, when we are not home.

I just don’t understand why it’s considered cruel. We also don’t crate train our dogs ever. Never even heard of it.

My dog is so happy. Loves loves loves outside and also loves inside, but I’d say she prefers to play outside.

I grew up in England and things were similar to what you have described except we never had a doggy door. During the warmer months the back door was open and the dog came inside when it wanted, and when it was inside it went outside to poop. In the cooler months it stayed inside but would wait by the back door to go outside and poop. Never had a crate either and I had never heard of crating a dog until I read comments on this forum.

If either of you could follow the bouncing ball, which any lab could do, you could comprehend from the OPs first post that she is not looking for a dog to come in and out at will -she is looking for a dog that lives outside, period. There is a difference between a dog that is offered the outdoors and one who is forced to stay there, alone.

I was responding to the poster from Australia not the OP. Seeing as how you're so clever, I'm sure you don't need me to tell you where to stick the bouncing ball that you have mentioned.

I have a very mellow dog who goes outside then inside mostly to her crate. But she’s rare as she is happy doesn’t bark and loves her routine. The yard is fenced. Inside when it’s hot as she has a heavy coat.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I live in Australia and I really want to understand the issue of a dog outside. I have no snark but I just don’t understand.

Here everyone has a high fenced yard. Most dogs are outside dogs and absolutely love it. My dog, a Maltese is an indoor and outdoor dog. We have a little doggy door that she can go in and out as she chooses, when we are not home.

I just don’t understand why it’s considered cruel. We also don’t crate train our dogs ever. Never even heard of it.

My dog is so happy. Loves loves loves outside and also loves inside, but I’d say she prefers to play outside.

I grew up in England and things were similar to what you have described except we never had a doggy door. During the warmer months the back door was open and the dog came inside when it wanted, and when it was inside it went outside to poop. In the cooler months it stayed inside but would wait by the back door to go outside and poop. Never had a crate either and I had never heard of crating a dog until I read comments on this forum.

If either of you could follow the bouncing ball, which any lab could do, you could comprehend from the OPs first post that she is not looking for a dog to come in and out at will -she is looking for a dog that lives outside, period. There is a difference between a dog that is offered the outdoors and one who is forced to stay there, alone.

Anonymous wrote:So I live in Australia and I really want to understand the issue of a dog outside. I have no snark but I just don’t understand.

Here everyone has a high fenced yard. Most dogs are outside dogs and absolutely love it. My dog, a Maltese is an indoor and outdoor dog. We have a little doggy door that she can go in and out as she chooses, when we are not home.

I just don’t understand why it’s considered cruel. We also don’t crate train our dogs ever. Never even heard of it.

My dog is so happy. Loves loves loves outside and also loves inside, but I’d say she prefers to play outside.

I grew up in England and things were similar to what you have described except we never had a doggy door. During the warmer months the back door was open and the dog came inside when it wanted, and when it was inside it went outside to poop. In the cooler months it stayed inside but would wait by the back door to go outside and poop. Never had a crate either and I had never heard of crating a dog until I read comments on this forum.

So I live in Australia and I really want to understand the issue of a dog outside. I have no snark but I just don’t understand.

Here everyone has a high fenced yard. Most dogs are outside dogs and absolutely love it. My dog, a Maltese is an indoor and outdoor dog. We have a little doggy door that she can go in and out as she chooses, when we are not home.

I just don’t understand why it’s considered cruel. We also don’t crate train our dogs ever. Never even heard of it.

My dog is so happy. Loves loves loves outside and also loves inside, but I’d say she prefers to play outside.

I am actually responding kindly. No, you can’t. Really for all the reasons stated: weather, pack animal, barking, etc.

If you’ve never had a dog I am sure hard to imagine how much you will love the dog and will soon accept the dirt, shedding, smell. If it is a health reason ( allergies) I get it but there are hypoallergenic breeds.

My dad was a no dog in house but this was the 70s /8os. Now his dog sits in his lap all day!

Lastly, my neighborhood is a huge dog- centric. If anyone heard of an outdoor dog they would be so concerned.

I know you mean well but dogs have to be considered part of your family/life to justify the responsibility and commitment.

I have older teens but my dog remains my toddler He is so loving and wants to be with us. Keep them close!!

On what planet do you think this is a good idea? It’s terribly mean to the dog, and you think it’s going to go over well with your daughter telling her that her beloved companion has to go sleep outside by himself all alone in the dark? Do you have a brain?