Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:32     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I must be missing something, Biden is on record saying he got the prosecutor fired, and Trump suggested they should look into that to make sure it was on the up and up. How is that a crime?


You are missing a functional brain that can understand logic and reason. Hope that helps!


Love the insults, and the deleting of the original post, instead of an actual answer. I guess you didn't learn that insults are not a winning strategy.


That question was answered at least half a dozen times yesterday in three different threads.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:31     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Here's the sum of it: With Nixon is wasn't as much as the crime, but the cover-up that was so damaging. Same with Clinton.

With Trump - It's the crime AND the cover-up.

Pelosi was so right on in using this to spur the big "I."

The public can understand this one - it's clear cut - Trump asked a foreign government to influence our election. Period.

Watch - the R's will have no where to go but to cave as more and more details of corruption come out.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:30     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so sure they know what’s up? So much has been hyped and subsequently walked back in the past few years that I’d be much more careful things. Have people forgotten how wrong they’ve been?



Nothing has been denied or walked back.

The Mueller report describes systemic Russian interference in the 2016 election as well as a subsequent cover up, that also includes the Trump administration blackmailing the Ukrainians into standing down its cooperation with Mueller in exchange for missiles.

The events surrounding the Trump administration and Trump specifically with the Ukrainians in advance of the 2020 election follows the exact same pattern. No one is defending Trump or suggesting anything in the Whistleblower claims are false or fraudulent.


So what came out of the Mueller investigation that's actionable? Nothing. Big fat zero.

You guys are talking about a whistle blower report from someone who claims to have never been a witness to any of the activities. You are not reading a first person account, but an edited opinion piece - someone's or read of the situation. This will not cross the threshold required by Republicans to convict. Without the Senate, any action by the House will be fruitless and ultimately help Trump as we see from Clinton's impeachment process.


There are 5 counts of obstruction that check every box on the face, of being actionable crimes. Why hasn't the Congress moved on them? I don't know, ask Pelosi.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:29     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so sure they know what’s up? So much has been hyped and subsequently walked back in the past few years that I’d be much more careful things. Have people forgotten how wrong they’ve been?



Nothing has been denied or walked back.

The Mueller report describes systemic Russian interference in the 2016 election as well as a subsequent cover up, that also includes the Trump administration blackmailing the Ukrainians into standing down its cooperation with Mueller in exchange for missiles.

The events surrounding the Trump administration and Trump specifically with the Ukrainians in advance of the 2020 election follows the exact same pattern. No one is defending Trump or suggesting anything in the Whistleblower claims are false or fraudulent.


So what came out of the Mueller investigation that's actionable? Nothing. Big fat zero.

You guys are talking about a whistle blower report from someone who claims to have never been a witness to any of the activities. You are not reading a first person account, but an edited opinion piece - someone's or read of the situation. This will not cross the threshold required by Republicans to convict. Without the Senate, any action by the House will be fruitless and ultimately help Trump as we see from Clinton's impeachment process.



Then why aren't the republicans challenging the facts in the complaint instead of grandstanding?
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:29     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so sure they know what’s up? So much has been hyped and subsequently walked back in the past few years that I’d be much more careful things. Have people forgotten how wrong they’ve been?



Nothing has been denied or walked back.

The Mueller report describes systemic Russian interference in the 2016 election as well as a subsequent cover up, that also includes the Trump administration blackmailing the Ukrainians into standing down its cooperation with Mueller in exchange for missiles.

The events surrounding the Trump administration and Trump specifically with the Ukrainians in advance of the 2020 election follows the exact same pattern. No one is defending Trump or suggesting anything in the Whistleblower claims are false or fraudulent.


Not everyone is as easily duped as you are.

Beat Trump politically, stop fooling yourself with this nonsense about Slavic devils.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:28     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so sure they know what’s up? So much has been hyped and subsequently walked back in the past few years that I’d be much more careful things. Have people forgotten how wrong they’ve been?



Nothing has been denied or walked back.

The Mueller report describes systemic Russian interference in the 2016 election as well as a subsequent cover up, that also includes the Trump administration blackmailing the Ukrainians into standing down its cooperation with Mueller in exchange for missiles.

The events surrounding the Trump administration and Trump specifically with the Ukrainians in advance of the 2020 election follows the exact same pattern. No one is defending Trump or suggesting anything in the Whistleblower claims are false or fraudulent.


So what came out of the Mueller investigation that's actionable? Nothing. Big fat zero.

You guys are talking about a whistle blower report from someone who claims to have never been a witness to any of the activities. You are not reading a first person account, but an edited opinion piece - someone's or read of the situation. This will not cross the threshold required by Republicans to convict. Without the Senate, any action by the House will be fruitless and ultimately help Trump as we see from Clinton's impeachment process.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:25     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so sure they know what’s up? So much has been hyped and subsequently walked back in the past few years that I’d be much more careful things. Have people forgotten how wrong they’ve been?



Nothing has been denied or walked back.

The Mueller report describes systemic Russian interference in the 2016 election as well as a subsequent cover up, that also includes the Trump administration blackmailing the Ukrainians into standing down its cooperation with Mueller in exchange for missiles.

The events surrounding the Trump administration and Trump specifically with the Ukrainians in advance of the 2020 election follows the exact same pattern. No one is defending Trump or suggesting anything in the Whistleblower claims are false or fraudulent.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:23     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This sums it up.

CNN's banner: "WHISTLEBLOWER: TRUMP TRIED TO GET UKRAINE TO INTERFERE IN ELECTION, AND WHITE HOUSE TRIED TO COVER IT UP."


This is the crux of it - all accomplice should be thrown in jail and Trump should be impeached immediately and removed. This incident is not a isolated one of this nature, but the documentation is fairly simple for people to understand. I understand why Pelosi wants for the impeachment article to focus of just this one. Once Trump is removed from office, he can be charged for all other ones.


In the cover-up, the moving of recorded transcripts from one storage to a restricted on is directly under the jurisdiction of the DNI. The OLC ignored this piece of complaint completely and wrongly.


So does that mean that Maguire is in control of the recorded transcript and also refused to forward the IG report on to Congress?


No, he just addressed this. And he's right. Where the WH stores transcripts is the WH's business, not his.

No it’s not. There are laws about where public records are to be archived.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:23     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:Why is this not a bigger deal than it is? Is the rule of law officially dead?


Did you know that there's a hearing about this, taking place right now? This minute?
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:22     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Why is everyone so sure they know what’s up? So much has been hyped and subsequently walked back in the past few years that I’d be much more careful things. Have people forgotten how wrong they’ve been?
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:20     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Why is this not a bigger deal than it is? Is the rule of law officially dead?
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:12     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This sums it up.

CNN's banner: "WHISTLEBLOWER: TRUMP TRIED TO GET UKRAINE TO INTERFERE IN ELECTION, AND WHITE HOUSE TRIED TO COVER IT UP."


This is the crux of it - all accomplice should be thrown in jail and Trump should be impeached immediately and removed. This incident is not a isolated one of this nature, but the documentation is fairly simple for people to understand. I understand why Pelosi wants for the impeachment article to focus of just this one. Once Trump is removed from office, he can be charged for all other ones.


In the cover-up, the moving of recorded transcripts from one storage to a restricted on is directly under the jurisdiction of the DNI. The OLC ignored this piece of complaint completely and wrongly.


So does that mean that Maguire is in control of the recorded transcript and also refused to forward the IG report on to Congress?


I've been waiting for someone to ask about whether the released summary is the full original. As he said, privelege was waived so he can answer that question.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:11     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This sums it up.

CNN's banner: "WHISTLEBLOWER: TRUMP TRIED TO GET UKRAINE TO INTERFERE IN ELECTION, AND WHITE HOUSE TRIED TO COVER IT UP."


This is the crux of it - all accomplice should be thrown in jail and Trump should be impeached immediately and removed. This incident is not a isolated one of this nature, but the documentation is fairly simple for people to understand. I understand why Pelosi wants for the impeachment article to focus of just this one. Once Trump is removed from office, he can be charged for all other ones.


In the cover-up, the moving of recorded transcripts from one storage to a restricted on is directly under the jurisdiction of the DNI. The OLC ignored this piece of complaint completely and wrongly.


So does that mean that Maguire is in control of the recorded transcript and also refused to forward the IG report on to Congress?


No, he just addressed this. And he's right. Where the WH stores transcripts is the WH's business, not his.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 11:10     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This sums it up.

CNN's banner: "WHISTLEBLOWER: TRUMP TRIED TO GET UKRAINE TO INTERFERE IN ELECTION, AND WHITE HOUSE TRIED TO COVER IT UP."


This is the crux of it - all accomplice should be thrown in jail and Trump should be impeached immediately and removed. This incident is not a isolated one of this nature, but the documentation is fairly simple for people to understand. I understand why Pelosi wants for the impeachment article to focus of just this one. Once Trump is removed from office, he can be charged for all other ones.


In the cover-up, the moving of recorded transcripts from one storage to a restricted on is directly under the jurisdiction of the DNI. The OLC ignored this piece of complaint completely and wrongly.


So does that mean that Maguire is in control of the recorded transcript and also refused to forward the IG report on to Congress?


The secured are should be checked for all other transcripts and documents Trump is hiding. This must not be the first time WH did it.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 10:59     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This sums it up.

CNN's banner: "WHISTLEBLOWER: TRUMP TRIED TO GET UKRAINE TO INTERFERE IN ELECTION, AND WHITE HOUSE TRIED TO COVER IT UP."


This is the crux of it - all accomplice should be thrown in jail and Trump should be impeached immediately and removed. This incident is not a isolated one of this nature, but the documentation is fairly simple for people to understand. I understand why Pelosi wants for the impeachment article to focus of just this one. Once Trump is removed from office, he can be charged for all other ones.


In the cover-up, the moving of recorded transcripts from one storage to a restricted on is directly under the jurisdiction of the DNI. The OLC ignored this piece of complaint completely and wrongly.


So does that mean that Maguire is in control of the recorded transcript and also refused to forward the IG report on to Congress?