Anonymous wrote:The science on sleep totally supports you pulling him out, OP. I think you already know that though. Don't feel like you should have validation for your decision from other parents because you're probably not going to get it. Most people are fine with late nights for their kids.

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The truth is: « in the short term, a lack of adequate sleep can affect judgment, mood, ability to learn and retain information, and may increase the risk of serious accidents and injury. In the long term, chronic sleep deprivation may lead to a host of health problems including obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and even early mortality.«. But that’s only if you believe Harvard Medical school.

http://healthysleep.med.harvard.edu/healthy/matters/consequences

The science on sleep totally supports you pulling him out, OP. I think you already know that though. Don't feel like you should have validation for your decision from other parents because you're probably not going to get it. Most people are fine with late nights for their kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how every battle turns into sports vs screens, as if there is nothing else you can fill kids time with. Some of the parents think if they aren’t playing sports, they are automatically couch potato screen junkies. So binary in their thinking.

Hint: a few other things kids can do.

Theater
Chess
Tutor
Language lessons
Music
Part time work
Charity
Friends
Household chores

Yes, and most of these activities require a later night at least a few times a week.

From personal experience with several of these, PP is right. Late nights are not only sports related.

Anonymous wrote:I love how every battle turns into sports vs screens, as if there is nothing else you can fill kids time with. Some of the parents think if they aren’t playing sports, they are automatically couch potato screen junkies. So binary in their thinking.

Hint: a few other things kids can do.

Theater
Chess
Tutor
Language lessons
Music
Part time work
Charity
Friends
Household chores

Yes, and most of these activities require a later night at least a few times a week.

Anonymous wrote:Op, I couldn't consider myself a good parent if the schedule is too hectic - too hectic for my kid, which might be my opinion (and that's ok), or too hectic for the family. Go with what works for you and your family. I am surprised by the lack of support for your point of view.

Why are you surprised? This is DCUM, the more activities your child does the better you are as a parent. Over scheduling is better than god forbid having a day to just relax with no activities. Do more, be more is the mentality of most people here. OP is not going to find any support here.

Anonymous wrote:You pulled him from a sport he loves because of that? Dumb move

THIS!!! Hello Joan Crawford!!!

I love how every battle turns into sports vs screens, as if there is nothing else you can fill kids time with. Some of the parents think if they aren’t playing sports, they are automatically couch potato screen junkies. So binary in their thinking.

Hint: a few other things kids can do.

Theater
Chess
Tutor
Language lessons
Music
Part time work
Charity
Friends
Household chores

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had no problems with it. Better than staying up too late looking at screens.

There are a lot of anti-sports people who have zero clue how much time their kids are spending on screens.

I think they have pleanty of a clue, but are just glad their kids are aestheticised and out of their hair.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not against sports but teens need 9 to 9.5 hours of sleep. We need to stop treating sleep like it is a luxury. They literally need it. Just because they can plow forward without it does not mean they don't need it and you aren't harming them by not making it a priority.

Not everyone needs 9-10 hours of sleep. You may, your kids many but not all do. If you are too lazy to encourage your kids in their interests just say that. Mine were like you and came up with all kinds of excuses about why we couldn't do activities.

Pretty much every pediatrician would disagree with you, but whatever makes you feel better.

DP here. One of my kids needed very little sleep, and every pediatrician I mentioned it to said, “Don’t worry about! People don’t all need the same amount of sleep.” And we’ve seen lots of different pediatricians over the years as a military family who has moved around quite a bit.

Anonymous wrote:I had no problems with it. Better than staying up too late looking at screens.

There are a lot of anti-sports people who have zero clue how much time their kids are spending on screens.

I’ve thought about it a lot , my kids are a little younger. They’re 6 and 9 but practice 3 hours a night twice per week for gymnastics. There is a 15 minute break where they can eat so we don’t have to worry about eating afterward but they do get up early and don’t end up getting to sleep until 10 pm on these nights. They love it and don’t want to quit and haven’t seemed worn out by the schedule but if they ever want to quit that’s fine and they can find something new.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not against sports but teens need 9 to 9.5 hours of sleep. We need to stop treating sleep like it is a luxury. They literally need it. Just because they can plow forward without it does not mean they don't need it and you aren't harming them by not making it a priority.

Not everyone needs 9-10 hours of sleep. You may, your kids many but not all do. If you are too lazy to encourage your kids in their interests just say that. Mine were like you and came up with all kinds of excuses about why we couldn't do activities.

Pretty much every pediatrician would disagree with you, but whatever makes you feel better.

Op, I couldn't consider myself a good parent if the schedule is too hectic - too hectic for my kid, which might be my opinion (and that's ok), or too hectic for the family. Go with what works for you and your family. I am surprised by the lack of support for your point of view.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not against sports but teens need 9 to 9.5 hours of sleep. We need to stop treating sleep like it is a luxury. They literally need it. Just because they can plow forward without it does not mean they don't need it and you aren't harming them by not making it a priority.

Not everyone needs 9-10 hours of sleep. You may, your kids many but not all do. If you are too lazy to encourage your kids in their interests just say that. Mine were like you and came up with all kinds of excuses about why we couldn't do activities.

I had no problems with it. Better than staying up too late looking at screens.