Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know of a soccer manager where one parent contacted her about getting some alternative coaching for the players and essentially complaining about the current coach's style. Something to the effect like, "the girls need be brought to the next level and I don't think Coach Larla is the one who can bring them there."

The manager responded by saying that she should reach out to the coach if she has any concerns about coaching. Then during a conversation with the coach, the manager mentioned the email and the coach asked her to forward it, which she did. When the parent found out, she was furious with the manager for breaking the confidence. Thing is, there is no assumed confidence in emails between parents and the manager. Besides, that parent is a complete pita and I would love to see her find another team. But this team is just too convenient for her logistically, and she is too selfish to make a sacrifice for her daughter. Pathetic woman!!

So the manger told the parent to reach out to the coach directly with these concerns and then the manager told the coach anyway?

The manager was right to say take it directly to the coach but was not in the right to also share the info with the coach after the fact. The coach has no claim to the email. The manager is not a club employee and as stated earlier in this thread volunteers for the team NOT the coach.

Actually, the manager does have every right to forward an email to the coach at her discretion. Especially in a situation where the parent clearly is trying to undermine the coach. It is not the manager's job to protect a parent from a coach finding out she wants to fire him. She was foolish to share that information with the manager. She is free to leave whenever she wants. And I and other parents on the team are very happy with the coach. This parent is a problem parent for many many reasons, and this is just one of them. She is a trouble maker, and the manager wanted to stop her in her tracks.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know of a soccer manager where one parent contacted her about getting some alternative coaching for the players and essentially complaining about the current coach's style. Something to the effect like, "the girls need be brought to the next level and I don't think Coach Larla is the one who can bring them there."

The manager responded by saying that she should reach out to the coach if she has any concerns about coaching. Then during a conversation with the coach, the manager mentioned the email and the coach asked her to forward it, which she did. When the parent found out, she was furious with the manager for breaking the confidence. Thing is, there is no assumed confidence in emails between parents and the manager. Besides, that parent is a complete pita and I would love to see her find another team. But this team is just too convenient for her logistically, and she is too selfish to make a sacrifice for her daughter. Pathetic woman!!

So the manger told the parent to reach out to the coach directly with these concerns and then the manager told the coach anyway?

The manager was right to say take it directly to the coach but was not in the right to also share the info with the coach after the fact. The coach has no claim to the email. The manager is not a club employee and as stated earlier in this thread volunteers for the team NOT the coach.

Actually, the manager does have every right to forward an email to the coach at her discretion. Especially in a situation where the parent clearly is trying to undermine the coach. It is not the manager's job to protect a parent from a coach finding out she wants to fire him. She was foolish to share that information with the manager. She is free to leave whenever she wants. And I and other parents on the team are very happy with the coach. This parent is a problem parent for many many reasons, and this is just one of them. She is a trouble maker, and the manager wanted to stop her in her tracks.

Parents do this anyways. It isn't rocket science. Jesus, if the team manger didn't put out a email requesting carpool info you honestly believe that parents wouldn't figure it out?

It isn't the responsibility of a team manager regardless of what ASA thinks. If a parent can't find anyone on the team the to carpool with then perhaps the team manager can facilitate a car pool with a family on another team that practices at the same time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know of a soccer manager where one parent contacted her about getting some alternative coaching for the players and essentially complaining about the current coach's style. Something to the effect like, "the girls need be brought to the next level and I don't think Coach Larla is the one who can bring them there."

The manager responded by saying that she should reach out to the coach if she has any concerns about coaching. Then during a conversation with the coach, the manager mentioned the email and the coach asked her to forward it, which she did. When the parent found out, she was furious with the manager for breaking the confidence. Thing is, there is no assumed confidence in emails between parents and the manager. Besides, that parent is a complete pita and I would love to see her find another team. But this team is just too convenient for her logistically, and she is too selfish to make a sacrifice for her daughter. Pathetic woman!!

So the manger told the parent to reach out to the coach directly with these concerns and then the manager told the coach anyway?

The manager was right to say take it directly to the coach but was not in the right to also share the info with the coach after the fact. The coach has no claim to the email. The manager is not a club employee and as stated earlier in this thread volunteers for the team NOT the coach.

Anonymous wrote:I know of a soccer manager where one parent contacted her about getting some alternative coaching for the players and essentially complaining about the current coach's style. Something to the effect like, "the girls need be brought to the next level and I don't think Coach Larla is the one who can bring them there."

The manager responded by saying that she should reach out to the coach if she has any concerns about coaching. Then during a conversation with the coach, the manager mentioned the email and the coach asked her to forward it, which she did. When the parent found out, she was furious with the manager for breaking the confidence. Thing is, there is no assumed confidence in emails between parents and the manager. Besides, that parent is a complete pita and I would love to see her find another team. But this team is just too convenient for her logistically, and she is too selfish to make a sacrifice for her daughter. Pathetic woman!!

Anonymous wrote:All I know is thank your managers and team volunteers for everything they do. They might do the minimum or go above and beyond the call of duty.
These people volunteer a vast amount of their personal time to make sure you can play in tournaments , organize social events, team bonding, and have a positive experience. Not all of us volunteer because we want to or expect and favors, we volunteer because no one steps up. There’s too many entitled people in Nova. Don’t ruin it by complaining about the petty things .

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Really? I used to be a team manager for Alexandria, and one of the listed duties was trying to help players who didn't have rides find them. It only came up once when I was a manger, but I could see it coming up more often if a player's family didn't have car or a player's parents worked on weekends or the like.


Lol, understand you are not the boss of parents. If parents wish to be included in car pools they are more than able to share their location and contact info. A team manager is not needed to arrange carpools. Let the parents sort it out.

Well, you are entitled to your view, but that's not the view of ASA. Some clubs, ASA included, offer scholarships to players on free and reduced lunch, whose parents may not have cars. I don't think it is unreasonable to request that other parents help those kids out with rides from time to time. The other parents are free to say no. It's a request, not a summons. The only time I had to ask for a ride for a child, his parents did not speak English well at all, and their car had been totaled. People were happy to help.

Really? I used to be a team manager for Alexandria, and one of the listed duties was trying to help players who didn't have rides find them. It only came up once when I was a manger, but I could see it coming up more often if a player's family didn't have car or a player's parents worked on weekends or the like.


Lol, understand you are not the boss of parents. If parents wish to be included in car pools they are more than able to share their location and contact info. A team manager is not needed to arrange carpools. Let the parents sort it out.

Anonymous wrote:

That's fine, but then spread around the assignments fairly. Our team manager continuously asks me to drive a really difficult kid from a really difficult family to games and tournaments(has been on our team for two years). I don't mind taking a share of driving him, but she always asks me, and I've never seen anyone else take him except the manager herself. Next time, I'm going to tell her she needs to try other families first.


This is well out of the team managers scope. Good God,Team managers are worse than HOA board members.

Really? I used to be a team manager for Alexandria, and one of the listed duties was trying to help players who didn't have rides find them. It only came up once when I was a manger, but I could see it coming up more often if a player's family didn't have car or a player's parents worked on weekends or the like.

Anonymous wrote:

Every Monday send out a weekly update with the schedule for the week and be direct with things, don't ask for volunteers, assign people things. Let them know at the parent meeting that it is a rotation of things.

Tournament #1 Fred's family is responsible for room checks if your team does player only rooms

Tournament 2 #1 Bob's family is responsible for dinner meaning you already made the reservation they go early to make sure it is ready or they pick up food to bring back

etc. Don't put out things like we need volunteer for or you will do it yourself.

Parents who don't reply etc you have to call them on it. they will either get with the program or leave the team. a well run team has parents who get the program.

That's fine, but then spread around the assignments fairly. Our team manager continuously asks me to drive a really difficult kid from a really difficult family to games and tournaments(has been on our team for two years). I don't mind taking a share of driving him, but she always asks me, and I've never seen anyone else take him except the manager herself. Next time, I'm going to tell her she needs to try other families first.

That's fine, but then spread around the assignments fairly. Our team manager continuously asks me to drive a really difficult kid from a really difficult family to games and tournaments(has been on our team for two years). I don't mind taking a share of driving him, but she always asks me, and I've never seen anyone else take him except the manager herself. Next time, I'm going to tell her she needs to try other families first.


This is well out of the team managers scope. Good God,Team managers are worse than HOA board members.

Anonymous wrote:

Every Monday send out a weekly update with the schedule for the week and be direct with things, don't ask for volunteers, assign people things. Let them know at the parent meeting that it is a rotation of things.

Tournament #1 Fred's family is responsible for room checks if your team does player only rooms

Tournament 2 #1 Bob's family is responsible for dinner meaning you already made the reservation they go early to make sure it is ready or they pick up food to bring back

etc. Don't put out things like we need volunteer for or you will do it yourself.

Parents who don't reply etc you have to call them on it. they will either get with the program or leave the team. a well run team has parents who get the program.

That's fine, but then spread around the assignments fairly. Our team manager continuously asks me to drive a really difficult kid from a really difficult family to games and tournaments(has been on our team for two years). I don't mind taking a share of driving him, but she always asks me, and I've never seen anyone else take him except the manager herself. Next time, I'm going to tell her she needs to try other families first.

Every Monday send out a weekly update with the schedule for the week and be direct with things, don't ask for volunteers, assign people things. Let them know at the parent meeting that it is a rotation of things.

Tournament #1 Fred's family is responsible for room checks if your team does player only rooms

Tournament 2 #1 Bob's family is responsible for dinner meaning you already made the reservation they go early to make sure it is ready or they pick up food to bring back

etc. Don't put out things like we need volunteer for or you will do it yourself.

Parents who don't reply etc you have to call them on it. they will either get with the program or leave the team. a well run team has parents who get the program.