Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher 35+ years public and private.

This would never, I mean never, happen. I'm calling OP out- this is not real. Even if someone thought that ( erroneously) they would not be allowed to say it, and certainly would not be inclined to do so after 6 hours. How stupid do you think respondents are here?

Try again and ask what you really want to know.

That's nice, but basically the exact thing happened to us as well. You may have a very limited frame of reference based on your own practices, but parents see a broader sample of teachers.

Sorry. Didn't happen. I've taught K-12, Special Ed, ED, Reading, mentored grad students, taught grad school and community college remedial programs. My scope is actually thousands of students and practitioners over 40 years. Never, never, never would that happen- even with a really bad and immature teacher who is also stoned and/ or drunk, perhaps. Yeah, I've seen that, too.
OP picked something up incorrectly, internalized it, ran with it, and paraphrased her inner thoughts her as if the teacher said something and wrote it on an anonymous forum. The teacher did not say that. Yes, I am sure.

extremely fake post

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people’s first reaction.

Others immediately blame the parent for being in denial about possible issues.

I don’t think this actually happened but if it did, the teacher was out of line.

How does this conclusion about the teacher’s impropriety address the OP’s kid disturbing the class?

We only have that teacher’s version and if he/she actually made this call to a parent after six hours of observing this student on the first day of school - a day when a lot of kids are unusually excited, then I have little confidence in the teacher’s conclusions.

Though I agree with you that the teacher acted improperly.

If this actually happened.

So let’s say it happened. Teacher was obviously out of line. There - that’s resolved.
Now what is OP gonna do about her kid? Is she going to dismiss the appraisal altogether and ignore her child’s disruptive behavior because the teacher said something out of line or is she going to address the real issue her...her kid.

The #1 issue is to switch teachers, because this teacher is showing clear signs she will not be able to cope or be appropriate with any behavioral issues and diagnoses, to the extent they exist.

Anonymous wrote:People are focusing on the teacher BECAUSE the teacher was so out of line, that her judgement is completely unreliable.

Her tact was improper. She may not have been audaciously making a medical diagnosis she may have been awkwardly making a half-joking remark to emphasize how off the chain the OP’s kid was acting. Whichever the case fact is (supposedly) that A CALL WAS MADE thus indicating that little Johnny wasn’t sitting there quiet and controlled. He was doing something that motivated the teacher to pick up the phone which is not something teachers just do arbitrarily.

Anonymous wrote:Typical.
Everyone 1st instinct is to analyze the teacher's behavior and address the issue with the teacher.

Anybody gonna stop to analyze the kid's behavior and pause to give some thought about addressing his issues first and foremost?

No.

As a parent, I would compare this “report” (again, you are assuming this teacher is an accurate reporter even given the complete lack of judgment) to the student’s record of behavior. Is this in line with how he usually behaves the first day of school? Does he usually settle down after the initial excitement of seeing friends and the bit of anxiety that is common with a lot of kids the first day of school? If yes, then I would remind the student of proper and appropriate standards of behavior but then I would step back and see how things go. I would consider whether the teacher was particularly sensitive to behavior that, while disruptive, is age-appropriate and how “tight” a classroom he/she runs. If the student does not settle down despite previous history of doing so or if this is normal behavior throughout the school year, then I would consider a conversation with the school counselor and an evaluation. I would not rush out and get a prescription.

We don’t know enough of this situation to know which is a good course of action. The OP only wanted to see what people thought of the teacher’s behavior.

People are focusing on the teacher BECAUSE the teacher was so out of line, that her judgement is completely unreliable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people’s first reaction.

Others immediately blame the parent for being in denial about possible issues.

I don’t think this actually happened but if it did, the teacher was out of line.

How does this conclusion about the teacher’s impropriety address the OP’s kid disturbing the class?

We only have that teacher’s version and if he/she actually made this call to a parent after six hours of observing this student on the first day of school - a day when a lot of kids are unusually excited, then I have little confidence in the teacher’s conclusions.

Though I agree with you that the teacher acted improperly.

If this actually happened.

We heard the parents version which could be the parents take away from a phone call from a Teacher and not what the Teacher actually said. We have no idea what the context of the conversation was only that the parent claims that the Teacher said the child should be medicated. The Parent, who was all gung ho about how excited and happy their 4th grader was, said nothing about whether or not the child had been acting disruptive.

So yeah, there is far more to this story, if it is real and I don't think that it is, then we have been told.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people’s first reaction.

Others immediately blame the parent for being in denial about possible issues.

I don’t think this actually happened but if it did, the teacher was out of line.

How does this conclusion about the teacher’s impropriety address the OP’s kid disturbing the class?

We only have that teacher’s version and if he/she actually made this call to a parent after six hours of observing this student on the first day of school - a day when a lot of kids are unusually excited, then I have little confidence in the teacher’s conclusions.

Though I agree with you that the teacher acted improperly.

If this actually happened.

So let’s say it happened. Teacher was obviously out of line. There - that’s resolved.
Now what is OP gonna do about her kid? Is she going to dismiss the appraisal altogether and ignore her child’s disruptive behavior because the teacher said something out of line or is she going to address the real issue her...her kid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people’s first reaction.

Others immediately blame the parent for being in denial about possible issues.

I don’t think this actually happened but if it did, the teacher was out of line.

How does this conclusion about the teacher’s impropriety address the OP’s kid disturbing the class?

We only have that teacher’s version and if he/she actually made this call to a parent after six hours of observing this student on the first day of school - a day when a lot of kids are unusually excited, then I have little confidence in the teacher’s conclusions.

Though I agree with you that the teacher acted improperly.

If this actually happened.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:you do rewlize the health forms are on file in the clinic? Teachers can check


PP retired school nurse and this isn't and should not be easily accessible information; it's confidential, protected health information and not accessible for teachers. I had no access to individual student records. Make sense?

Don’t be so thick. You weren’t a teacher so you obviously don’t know. Teachers collect the health forms, alphabetize them, and are the ones who turn them in! Of course they read them and are aware of any medications a child is on (in case kids need to go to clinic to get doses). They have to know who has diabetes, who has allergies, etc. In many cases, they have to be epi pen trained. So yes, teachers are always aware of health issues and medications students are on, especially if it impacts the classroom.

Huh? No. We submit health forms directly to the main office, and they are filed with the nurse. Yes, a teacher should know if there is a medication plan that she has a role in, but teachers absolutely should not be able to go through all past health forms in the files for any kid!

Yeah, I can see a teacher collecting forms as an incidental task, but that doesn't mean the teacher keeps, maintains, or has routine access to them. When I go to the doctor there are a couple of forms reception routinely has me complete and I turn them in at the reception desk, that does not give the receptionist acccess to my info in a meaningful sense.

Anonymous wrote:Some people’s first reaction.

Others immediately blame the parent for being in denial about possible issues.

I don’t think this actually happened but if it did, the teacher was out of line.

How does this conclusion about the teacher’s impropriety address the OP’s kid disturbing the class?

The initial response was to say that the OP was a Troll. And to comment that if the Teacher had called the parent there is no way the Teacher was that blunt and that the OP was badly paraphrasing. And that the kid had to be badly behaved and not listening to the Teacher if the Teacher was calling on the first day.

The more recent posts seem to think that this really happened.

Given that the OP has not returned to tell us what the Principal said when she called him to complain about the Teachers comments and discuss how she talked to her kid about his behavior, I am sticking with troll and it didn't happen.

Some people’s first reaction.

Others immediately blame the parent for being in denial about possible issues.

I don’t think this actually happened but if it did, the teacher was out of line.

Typical.
Everyone 1st instinct is to analyze the teacher's behavior and address the issue with the teacher.

Anybody gonna stop to analyze the kid's behavior and pause to give some thought about addressing his issues first and foremost?